Purito - Joaquim Rodriguez thread

[Squirbos_19]

Perhaps he'll become a referee after his career in cycling

 

[Valv.Piti]

That image cracked me up, good stuff!

 

[Arredondo]

One thing is sure, that outfit looks good

 

[Beech Mtn]

This one was pretty good too.

 

[Velolover2]

Based on his latest tweets, It seems like he hasn't decided between which Grand Tours he will ride. Maybe Giro + Vuelta? They might want to send Zakafroome to the Tour.

I wonder how he will do without the Moreno and Caruso? These are the two riders who resemble him the most. Hardy, punchy climbers in the mountains and strong lead-out men in the hills. Now they are both gone.

 

[Arredondo]

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Based on his latest tweets, It seems like he hasn't decided between which Grand Tours he will ride. Maybe Giro + Vuelta? They might want to send Zakafroome to the Tour.

I wonder how he will do without the Moreno and Caruso? These are the two riders who resemble him the most. Hardy, punchy climbers in the mountains and strong lead-out men in the hills. Now they are both gone.

Based on the last Vuelta, fine. Caruso wasn't there, and Moreno was more of an enemy then a teammate.

He can profit from other trains, like Astana and Movistar. And he's got Taaramae and long time friend Losada still in service.

 

[Velolover2]

Losada is not explosive. And while very useful, hardy and loyal, he can't stay with the best in the high mountains.

Taaramae could be a replacement, but isn't he more of a diesel? A steady pace climber with a good TT. Same with JVDB. These will be good to bring him back in the peloton if he has a mechanical or something, but not as someone who can help him in the Ardennes like Caruso/Moreno can do.

Vicioso isn't exactly Moreno.

 

[Squirbos_19]

Agreed, he should be good next season without those two. Moreno did help him out a lot on the Andorra stage though, but apart from that didn't do a whole lot and even blocked Purito in Fleche Wallone. In fact all of Purito's victories this year have been on his own.
In VPV he followed Henao's attack and then beat him in a sprint, next day he won the sprint from a group (I think Zakarin may have helped a bit, I'll have to check the stage again) and finally won it in the time trial. Then we have the Mur de Huy and breakaway stage in the Tour, and the Vuelta stage win was an attack from the GC group.

All he needs is someone to get him in position and occasionally set the pace for a bit, Losada, Machado, Taaramae and Vicioso are capable of this.

 

[Squirbos_19]

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Losada is not explosive. And while very useful, hardy and loyal, he can't stay with the best in the high mountains.

Taaramae could be a replacement, but isn't he more of a diesel? A steady pace climber with a good TT. Same with JVDB. These will be good to bring him back in the peloton if he has a mechanical or something, but not as someone who can help him in the Ardennes like Caruso/Moreno can do.

Vicioso isn't exactly Moreno.

Perhaps it will be better that he doesn't have super strong teammates in the Ardennes, he might take a few more risks to try and win. Imagine of he had attacked when Moreno did in Liege, could have been a different result. And it's not as though Moreno helped much in Fleche.

 

[Velolover2]

Maybe you are right about the Ardennes, but it's still nice to have a super-dom like Moreno in the high mountains like in stage 11 of the Vuelta.

And it was Spilak who was his lead-out man in the sprint. Zakarin acted as an anchor on Henao's attack.

If he is riding the Giro, then he should have Jurgen van den Broeck to be with him. They should ride it together beforehand and recognize every corner and hill in it.

I still don't know the gradients of the TT.

If it's up and down all the time, then it's very good for him.

If it's a long false flat followed by a soft descent, then it's very bad.

 

[Arredondo]

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Agreed, he should be good next season without those two. Moreno did help him out a lot on the Andorra stage though, but apart from that didn't do a whole lot and even blocked Purito in Fleche Wallone. In fact all of Purito's victories this year have been on his own.
In VPV he followed Henao's attack and then beat him in a sprint, next day he won the sprint from a group (I think Zakarin may have helped a bit, I'll have to check the stage again) and finally won it in the time trial. Then we have the Mur de Huy and breakaway stage in the Tour, and the Vuelta stage win was an attack from the GC group.

All he needs is someone to get him in position and occasionally set the pace for a bit, Losada, Machado, Taaramae and Vicioso are capable of this.

+ 1

 

[Arredondo]

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Maybe you are right about the Ardennes, but it's still nice to have a super-dom like Moreno in the high mountains like in stage 11 of the Vuelta.

And it was Spilak who was his lead-out man in the sprint. Zakarin acted as an anchor on Henao's attack.

If he is riding the Giro, then he should have Jurgen van den Broeck to be with him. They should ride it together beforehand and recognize every corner and hill in it.

I still don't know the gradients of the TT.

If it's up and down all the time, then it's very good for him.

If it's a long false flat followed by a soft descent, then it's very bad.

Spilak and Zakarin are still there next season. So i don't the problem.

And i don't really care if he's able to fight for GC anymore. I want him to win classics, Rio or Pais Vasco/Catalunya. And just fight for stage wins in the GT's. His 2nd place in La Vuelta was a good end in terms of riding GC in GT's.

 

[Beech Mtn]

So many reasons to love Purito

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSGdPetU8AAx_G5.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSGdPfsUEAArcib.jpg

 

[Arredondo]

Purito is the best current 'twitter-rider'. That's for sure!

So Rio and Tour will be his most important goals in 2016. Of course together with the Ardennes classics. But saying the Tour is a big goal, hints to me he will target a good GC in that race. I rather see him targeting some stages, and 'rest' for Rio and Vuelta.

 

[Arredondo]

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Purito is ready to rock!!!

http://www.biciciclismo.com/es/purito-apuesta-triple-ardenas-tour-y-rio-13-12-2015

 

[Arredondo]

So this will Purito's schedule for 2016

Algarve (so no Oman, interesting choice)
Tirreno
Catalunya
País Vasco (heavy schedule, i thought he would skip PV like he did in 2013 and 2014 in order to be really fresh in classics)
Amstel
Fleche
Liege

Dauphiné
Tour
Rio

San Sebastian
Vuelta
Milan Torino (likely)
Lombardia (likely)

 

[pink_jersey]

That's too heavy schedule...I don't get why is he riding Dubai and all three of Tirreno/Catalunya/Pais Vasco. He should not race Dubai and and one of Tirreno/Catalunya/Pais Vasco..

 

[Velolover2]

Dubai and Algarve is a weird combo. Why would he even ride Dubai Tour when it's just a pancake flat race?

I'd skip Dubai Tour and start later.

 

[Velolover2]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/wiggins-cavendish-phinney-set-for-2016-dubai-tour/

No Katusha for Dubai Tour? So I guess he is not going there.

 

[jens_attacks]

purito is still crazy strong if he can made that insane schedule. damn

 

[Velolover2]

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purito is still crazy strong if he can made that insane schedule. damn

Maybe it has something to do with the UCI champion feud between him and Valverde? Who can collect the most points?

If Valverde fails to deliver in the classics, Rodriguez has a good chance of winning it this year.

 

[Mr.White]

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purito is still crazy strong if he can made that insane schedule. damn

Maybe it has something to do with the UCI champion feud between him and Valverde? Who can collect the most points?

If Valverde fails to deliver in the classics, Rodriguez has a good chance of winning it this year.

When both in similar form Valverde have bigger chance, cause he can score in wider variety of races

 

[Arredondo]

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purito is still crazy strong if he can made that insane schedule. damn

Maybe it has something to do with the UCI champion feud between him and Valverde? Who can collect the most points?

If Valverde fails to deliver in the classics, Rodriguez has a good chance of winning it this year.

When both in similar form Valverde have bigger chance, cause he can score in wider variety of races

It depends how many of those wide variety races are WT.

 

[Arredondo]

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purito is still crazy strong if he can made that insane schedule. damn

If he's not doing Dubai, it's not a insane schedule imo. Only Pais Vasco is perhaps the race too much concerning the classics. But besides that, it's a traditional racing schedule for a rider like him.

 

[Velolover2]

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purito is still crazy strong if he can made that insane schedule. damn

Maybe it has something to do with the UCI champion feud between him and Valverde? Who can collect the most points?

If Valverde fails to deliver in the classics, Rodriguez has a good chance of winning it this year.

When both in similar form Valverde have bigger chance, cause he can score in wider variety of races

It depends how many of those wide variety races are WT.

Most of them are, but in a lot of those races he is a huge question mark. Milano-Sanremo, E3, GW (maybe?) and Flanders. If he can score points in those, he has a good chance of even surpassing his record.

Add in Canadian classics and Lombardia and he could get close to 800 points.