Purito - Joaquim Rodriguez thread

[Carols]

It is so nice to see Purito being Purito for the first time this year! Win the GC JRod!

 

[Kwibus]

Good to see him winning again. Getting ready to finally win Liege

Oh and Jancouver being his usual unbearable self again.

 

[Jancouver]

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God, some people are really too stupid. In his prime days, he was a great GC rider as well.

I agree, some people are really stupid and totally blind-sighted cheering on their past-due idols.

Yes, in his PRIME days he was OK not GREAT GC rider. You cannot call "great GC rider" anybody with pathetic TT skills.

Like it or not, a "Great" GC rider must be a complete rider and that is something he never was. Sorry

These days, he is just a one-trick-ponny taking advantage of his midget size on short/steep hills.

 

[Arredondo]

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God, some people are really too stupid. In his prime days, he was a great GC rider as well.

I agree, some people are really stupid and totally blind-sighted cheering on their past-due idols.

Yes, in his PRIME days he was OK not GREAT GC rider. You cannot call "great GC rider" anybody with pathetic TT skills.

Like it or not, a "Great" GC rider must be a complete rider and that is something he never was. Sorry

These days, he is just a one-trick-ponny taking advantage of his midget size on short/steep hills.

He rode podium in all GT's. Then you are a great GC rider.

He's the most explosive rider on steep climbs, he can climb like the best, is a good descender, good rain-rider, got a decent sprint. The only thing he doesn't have, is a good TT.

And concerning the one-trick pony 'argument' , every rider is a bit of a one trick pony. Tony Martin is a one trick pony because his wins are almost always TT's. Chris Froome is a one trick pony because he can only ride good GC's (and not competing in classics). One trick pony is just a stupid thing to say. You have to name it 'a weapon' or speciality.

 

[DBotero]

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God, some people are really too stupid. In his prime days, he was a great GC rider as well.

I agree, some people are really stupid and totally blind-sighted cheering on their past-due idols.

Yes, in his PRIME days he was OK not GREAT GC rider. You cannot call "great GC rider" anybody with pathetic TT skills.

Like it or not, a "Great" GC rider must be a complete rider and that is something he never was. Sorry

These days, he is just a one-trick-ponny taking advantage of his midget size on short/steep hills.

I don't get the hate this one-trick-ponny was very close to win 2 Gt's in 2012,he's got a good GT record,some podiums,some in top ten.What TT skill got to do with being a great GC rider

 

[Angliru]

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God, some people are really too stupid. In his prime days, he was a great GC rider as well.

I agree, some people are really stupid and totally blind-sighted cheering on their past-due idols.

Yes, in his PRIME days he was OK not GREAT GC rider. You cannot call "great GC rider" anybody with pathetic TT skills.

Like it or not, a "Great" GC rider must be a complete rider and that is something he never was. Sorry

These days, he is just a one-trick-ponny taking advantage of his midget size on short/steep hills.

It's obviously something personal with you when you have to resort to derogatory words ("midget") in describing a rider and being loose with the facts. Did he deny some rider that you worship a win or podium spot and you've held a grudge ever since?

 

[Mr.White]

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God, some people are really too stupid. In his prime days, he was a great GC rider as well.

I agree, some people are really stupid and totally blind-sighted cheering on their past-due idols.

Yes, in his PRIME days he was OK not GREAT GC rider. You cannot call "great GC rider" anybody with pathetic TT skills.

Like it or not, a "Great" GC rider must be a complete rider and that is something he never was. Sorry

These days, he is just a one-trick-ponny taking advantage of his midget size on short/steep hills.

Define OK GC rider, to me he was really good, if not great GC rider. He has 3-4 podiums in GT's and he could of easily won Giro and Vuelta 2012. Physically he was strongest in those races.

As for his midget size, I think you have midget size of brain

 

[Jancouver]

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He rode podium in all GT's. Then you are a great GC rider.

He's the most explosive rider on steep climbs, he can climb like the best, is a good descender, good rain-rider, got a decent sprint. The only thing he doesn't have, is a good TT.

And concerning the one-trick pony 'argument' , every rider is a bit of a one trick pony. Tony Martin is a one trick pony because his wins are almost always TT's. Chris Froome is a one trick pony because he can only ride good GC's (and not competing in classics). One trick pony is just a stupid thing to say. You have to name it 'a weapon' or speciality.

I agree with just about everything you wrote and I never disputed that he is an "explosive on steep climbs", "can climb with the best", or being a "good descender" etc.

All I said was that he is missing the TT part to be a "GREAT" gc rider and perhaps using the word "midget" was slightly over-the-top as I was making it clear that MOST if not ALL of his strengths are related to his below average size.

We all know that in this sport, size AKA weight are very important factors especially for those focusing on climbing and spiriting up steep hills.

Or are you saying that he would still be winning the same way and winning the same races if he wasn't so short & light?

And I'm not taking away his past accomplishment by saying that he is past his prime either.

Numbers dont lie ...

 

[SeriousSam]

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Or are you saying that he would still be winning the same way and winning the same races if he wasn't so short & light?

Yes, like every other rider who has ever been good at anything, Purito's skills, too, have to do with his power and weight. Well spotted. Lol at you thinking you're subtly mocking Purito with this observation when in fact you're stating a trite truth that applies to every single rider.

 

[Jancouver]

Kudos to Purito for using his experience to outfox the rest of the small group today!

 

[Mr.White]

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Kudos to Purito for using his experience to outfox the rest of the small group today!

He isn't just one-trick pony, you see?

 

[DBotero]

Another one today,i hope he keeps the momentum Ardeness classics are close-by.

 

[Arredondo]

Great days for Purito. A whole year without a victory, and now 2 in one week!

And tomorrow's stage has written Purito all over it. However, i'm expecting some tough sprinting against Henao. Sergio is super strong this week.

 

[DBotero]

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Great days for Purito. A whole year without a victory, and now 2 in one week!

And tomorrow's stage has written Purito all over it. However, i'm expecting some tough sprinting against Henao. Sergio is super strong this week.

Nah,tomorow Henao should get his win,he deserve it

 

[Netserk]

If Quintana is okay with just following wheels, he could very well do a hattrick tomorrow.

 

[Arredondo]

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If Quintana is okay with just following wheels, he could very well do a hattrick tomorrow.

Why is that? He just couldn't follow the attack of Henao today. Tomorrow is a stage more suited to Purito and Henao.

 

[Mr.White]

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If Quintana is okay with just following wheels, he could very well do a hattrick tomorrow.

Quintana should be happy if he doesn't loose time tomorrow. He will not going to beat Purito and Henao on that climb

 

[Arredondo]

Just a great perfomance by the old master. And that in a TT!

Let's hope he will survive Amstel to shine in FW and LBL

 

[Netserk]

Does anyone know if Liege will have the same final as last year or will they move the finish? Weird the route isn't out yet with only two weeks to go. If the finish is going to be flat, I don't think even this Purito will win, but if he can keep this form he should certainly be much more of a contender than I'd have thought a week ago.

 

[Arredondo]

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Does anyone know if Liege will have the same final as last year or will they move the finish? Weird the route isn't out yet with only two weeks to go. If the finish is going to be flat, I don't think even this Purito will win, but if he can keep this form he should certainly be much more of a contender than I'd have thought a week ago.

Are there rumours they will move the finish? I thought they will end on the same finish like all the other years.

 

[Netserk]

http://inrng.com/2015/01/10-predictions-for-2015/

The Ardennes week will have a different feel. First there might be a new finish for Liège-Bastogne-Liège. There’s been vague talk of a finish in Liège itself rather than the drab suburb of Ans. The final climb has ensured a selective finish but the parcours has become too predictable. In 2013 they had to remove the Côte de la Roche aux Faucons, a surprise late change and on paper the revised route didn’t look so hard. But it was unknown and riders were forced to take risks, to improvise. A flat finish in Liège would mix things up, especially as the climbers would have to go early to ditch those with a sprint. If familiarity breeds contempt then a new finish is worth trying.

 

[Arredondo]

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http://inrng.com/2015/01/10-predictions-for-2015/

The Ardennes week will have a different feel. First there might be a new finish for Liège-Bastogne-Liège. There’s been vague talk of a finish in Liège itself rather than the drab suburb of Ans. The final climb has ensured a selective finish but the parcours has become too predictable. In 2013 they had to remove the Côte de la Roche aux Faucons, a surprise late change and on paper the revised route didn’t look so hard. But it was unknown and riders were forced to take risks, to improvise. A flat finish in Liège would mix things up, especially as the climbers would have to go early to ditch those with a sprint. If familiarity breeds contempt then a new finish is worth trying.

Actually i really hope they will move the finish to Liege itself, because it indeed would make the race more interesting. Then there is another reason Purito has to attack on la Redoute, or Faucons, just like all the other climbers without a really good sprint (so riders bar Valverde, Kwiatkowski and Gerrans).

So i'm really in for a new, flatter, finish. It's all about good cycling, and not if a favourite rider wins it.

 

[Rollthedice]

Purito at his best. Great to see him back.

 

[jens_attacks]

'grats. there is hope for liege and tour !

 

[Kwibus]

C'mon Purito. YOU ARE GOING TO WIN LIEGE!

This is YOUR year! Vamos!