Purito - Joaquim Rodriguez thread

[Velolover2]

I noticed that when he doesn't win, he seems resigned. He often loses a lot of secondary positions with that attitude. He could have been second if he really had went for it and clinged on to Valverde's wheel.

 

[Arredondo]

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I noticed that when he doesn't win, he seems resigned. He often loses a lot of secondary positions with that attitude. He could have been second if he really had went for it and clinged on to Valverde's wheel.

Today he was just beaten by two riders who are faster. Has nothing to do with resigning.

 

[gunara]

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His team was too strong. We need a weak Katusha team, perhaps then he attacks earlier

To me it goes without a wink, a team so strong in one day race seems to often lead to indecision and then wrong decision. Not that it's the reason he didn't win today, I agree.

 

[hrotha]

I'm tired of everybody going all "Poor Purito! He SOOO deserves to win this!" No he doesn't. No amount of races where he refuses to play to his strengths should count towards "deserving" it. When he does what he has to do to win and still loses, we'll talk.

I mean, read this. It's pathetic. "[Valverde] calculated the exact distance and I couldn't do anything there." Of course you couldn't, so why did you try to do exactly that? "It’d be nice if somebody went for it on La Redoute and made it to the finish, but it’s much harder now to break away to do that. The Astana riders tried it this time round, and they didn’t succeed." Of course, because they stopped, but not before they had created the perfect circumstances for you and everyone else to profit. The pace had been very high and the group was smaller than usual, with fewer and more tired domestiques, and yet you chose to go up La Redoute at a steady pace, staring at each other and always waiting for someone else to make the move. Same at the Roche-aux-Faucons, and same at St. Nicolas. So don't give me any of your "there was nothing else I could do" BS, and enjoy losing as many races as possible.

 

[SeriousSam]

Which move are you saying would have been much better than how he ended up riding?

 

[hrotha]

Any.

 

[Velolover2]

He is the modern Zoetemelk, the eternal second.

 

[Arredondo]

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He is the modern Zoetemelk, the eternal second.

I would be trilled if he's got the same palmares at the end of his career

 

[Arredondo]

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I'm tired of everybody going all "Poor Purito! He SOOO deserves to win this!" No he doesn't. No amount of races where he refuses to play to his strengths should count towards "deserving" it. When he does what he has to do to win and still loses, we'll talk.

I mean, read this. It's pathetic. "[Valverde] calculated the exact distance and I couldn't do anything there." Of course you couldn't, so why did you try to do exactly that? "It’d be nice if somebody went for it on La Redoute and made it to the finish, but it’s much harder now to break away to do that. The Astana riders tried it this time round, and they didn’t succeed." Of course, because they stopped, but not before they had created the perfect circumstances for you and everyone else to profit. The pace had been very high and the group was smaller than usual, with fewer and more tired domestiques, and yet you chose to go up La Redoute at a steady pace, staring at each other and always waiting for someone else to make the move. Same at the Roche-aux-Faucons, and same at St. Nicolas. So don't give me any of your "there was nothing else I could do" BS, and enjoy losing as many races as possible.

I don't think many people think it's harsh for him to lose these kind of races. I mean, the Worlds in Firenze really was a race where you could say: Poor Purito. But not this race.

I agree he had to attack on La Redoute. Or someone like Moreno. But hey, that's sport. You make mistakes.

 

[Arredondo]

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When 4 big favorites are fighting for the win, a 5th rider will be the winner

 

[Squirbos_19]

Assuming he's following his 2013 form build-up. Then this is looking great for Purito. He looks better this Dauphine than in 2013 so hopefully his Tour level will be equal or even better.

Looking good for the Tour though, with Nibali struggling and Contador having done the Giro, Valverde seems quite weak as well. Perhaps he can podium again.

 

[SeriousSam]

Is there life in the old man yet?

 

[Arredondo]

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Assuming he's following his 2013 form build-up. Then this is looking great for Purito. He looks better this Dauphine than in 2013 so hopefully his Tour level will be equal or even better.

Looking good for the Tour though, with Nibali struggling and Contador having done the Giro, Valverde seems quite weak as well. Perhaps he can podium again.

If he can survive the cobble stage, he's got a good chance. I'm convinced of that. The course is great for him, that's for sure.

I even think he can win tomorrow's stage. The final climb is not that hard and quite short.

 

[Taxus4a]

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Is there life in the old man yet?

Old?

He is one of the favourites of Le Tour, he is one of the best climbers.

As others he need to past first weak alive but in the climbs he is one of the strongest, and in climbs as Mende, the stronger.

 

[Squirbos_19]

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Assuming he's following his 2013 form build-up. Then this is looking great for Purito. He looks better this Dauphine than in 2013 so hopefully his Tour level will be equal or even better.

Looking good for the Tour though, with Nibali struggling and Contador having done the Giro, Valverde seems quite weak as well. Perhaps he can podium again.

If he can survive the cobble stage, he's got a good chance. I'm convinced of that. The course is great for him, that's for sure.

I even think he can win tomorrow's stage. The final climb is not that hard and quite short.

Yeah I hope he can get a win tomorrow as well. Maybe I'm too optimistic but he didn't look to be pushing himself too much in the previous 2 stages. Today the camera was barely with him so it was hard to tell. Hopefully he'll go all out tomorrow.

 

[Taxus4a]

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Assuming he's following his 2013 form build-up. Then this is looking great for Purito. He looks better this Dauphine than in 2013 so hopefully his Tour level will be equal or even better.

Looking good for the Tour though, with Nibali struggling and Contador having done the Giro, Valverde seems quite weak as well. Perhaps he can podium again.

If he can survive the cobble stage, he's got a good chance. I'm convinced of that. The course is great for him, that's for sure.

I even think he can win tomorrow's stage. The final climb is not that hard and quite short.

it is 10 km and soft...but you can even consider 40 km climbing very soft, so it is not a good day for him.

He is faster than others, so if there is an small group of 10 riders he coud win, but no more.

But tomorrow SKy will try to get GC so, it will be a hard stage.

 

[Arredondo]

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Assuming he's following his 2013 form build-up. Then this is looking great for Purito. He looks better this Dauphine than in 2013 so hopefully his Tour level will be equal or even better.

Looking good for the Tour though, with Nibali struggling and Contador having done the Giro, Valverde seems quite weak as well. Perhaps he can podium again.

If he can survive the cobble stage, he's got a good chance. I'm convinced of that. The course is great for him, that's for sure.

I even think he can win tomorrow's stage. The final climb is not that hard and quite short.

Yeah I hope he can get a win tomorrow as well. Maybe I'm too optimistic but he didn't look to be pushing himself too much in the previous 2 stages. Today the camera was barely with him so it was hard to tell. Hopefully he'll go all out tomorrow.

Based on his face, he went really deep today. But that's good, he need to test himself.

He finished behind Inxtausti (post-Giro form), Froome (always good in Dauphiné) and Van Garderen (too early in form). So good perfomance.

 

[DBotero]

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Assuming he's following his 2013 form build-up. Then this is looking great for Purito. He looks better this Dauphine than in 2013 so hopefully his Tour level will be equal or even better.

Looking good for the Tour though, with Nibali struggling and Contador having done the Giro, Valverde seems quite weak as well. Perhaps he can podium again.

If he can survive the cobble stage, he's got a good chance. I'm convinced of that. The course is great for him, that's for sure.

I even think he can win tomorrow's stage. The final climb is not that hard and quite short.

Yeah I hope he can get a win tomorrow as well. Maybe I'm too optimistic but he didn't look to be pushing himself too much in the previous 2 stages. Today the camera was barely with him so it was hard to tell. Hopefully he'll go all out tomorrow.

Based on his face, he went really deep today. But that's good, he need to test himself.

He finished behind Inxtausti (post-Giro form), Froome (always good in Dauphiné) and Van Garderen (too early in form). So good perfomance.

I would say decent.I was expecting more from him and Valverde,still time until TDF and i want one of them on the podium.TVG is following Froome steps,being good here doesn't necessary mean he'll crack in TDF.

 

[Arredondo]

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Assuming he's following his 2013 form build-up. Then this is looking great for Purito. He looks better this Dauphine than in 2013 so hopefully his Tour level will be equal or even better.

Looking good for the Tour though, with Nibali struggling and Contador having done the Giro, Valverde seems quite weak as well. Perhaps he can podium again.

If he can survive the cobble stage, he's got a good chance. I'm convinced of that. The course is great for him, that's for sure.

I even think he can win tomorrow's stage. The final climb is not that hard and quite short.

Yeah I hope he can get a win tomorrow as well. Maybe I'm too optimistic but he didn't look to be pushing himself too much in the previous 2 stages. Today the camera was barely with him so it was hard to tell. Hopefully he'll go all out tomorrow.

Based on his face, he went really deep today. But that's good, he need to test himself.

He finished behind Inxtausti (post-Giro form), Froome (always good in Dauphiné) and Van Garderen (too early in form). So good perfomance.

I would say decent.I was expecting more from him and Valverde,still time until TDF and i want one of them on the podium.TVG is following Froome steps,being good here doesn't necessary mean he'll crack in TDF.

Why did you expect more from him? He is never good in preparation races before GT's. He said in a interview after the stage he does a similar approach like Dauphiné 2013. And he says he's happy because he's even better comparing 2013.

Today is even better then i expected before this Dauphiné.

 

[Taxus4a]

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Assuming he's following his 2013 form build-up. Then this is looking great for Purito. He looks better this Dauphine than in 2013 so hopefully his Tour level will be equal or even better.

Looking good for the Tour though, with Nibali struggling and Contador having done the Giro, Valverde seems quite weak as well. Perhaps he can podium again.

If he can survive the cobble stage, he's got a good chance. I'm convinced of that. The course is great for him, that's for sure.

I even think he can win tomorrow's stage. The final climb is not that hard and quite short.

Yeah I hope he can get a win tomorrow as well. Maybe I'm too optimistic but he didn't look to be pushing himself too much in the previous 2 stages. Today the camera was barely with him so it was hard to tell. Hopefully he'll go all out tomorrow.

Based on his face, he went really deep today. But that's good, he need to test himself.

He finished behind Inxtausti (post-Giro form), Froome (always good in Dauphiné) and Van Garderen (too early in form). So good perfomance.[/quote]

I would say decent.I was expecting more from him and Valverde,still time until TDF and i want one of them on the podium.TVG is following Froome steps,being good here doesn't necessary mean he'll crack in TDF.[/quote]

Why did you expect more from him? He is never good in preparation races before GT's. He said in a interview after the stage he does a similar approach like Dauphiné 2013. And he says he's happy because he's even better comparing 2013.

Today is even better then i expected before this Dauphiné.[/quote]


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I think he will ride La Vuelta, so he must be taking easy here... I dindt see Contador at Romandia, as is normal.

 

[DBotero]

Why did you expect more from him? He is never good in preparation races before GT's. He said in a interview after the stage he does a similar approach like Dauphiné 2013. And he says he's happy because he's even better comparing 2013.

Today is even better then i expected before this Dauphiné.

No ITT,great route for him,he's an old man a Dauphine win would look good on his palmares .Anyway i hope he'll be ready,TDF route is good for him and his"friend"Valverde.

 

[Arredondo]

Why did you expect more from him? He is never good in preparation races before GT's. He said in a interview after the stage he does a similar approach like Dauphiné 2013. And he says he's happy because he's even better comparing 2013.

Today is even better then i expected before this Dauphiné.

No ITT,great route for him,he's an old man a Dauphine win would look good on his palmares .Anyway i hope he'll be ready,TDF route is good for him and his"friend"Valverde.

He lost a minute in the TTT. So good decision to not arrive in top form at this Dauphiné

 

[movingtarget]

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He is the modern Zoetemelk, the eternal second.

Finishing second twice is nothing compared to Zoetemelk's GT record. His best chance was 2012 and he blew both races. He won't get that opportunity again unfortunately.

 

[Jancouver]

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Is there life in the old man yet?

Old?

He is one of the favourites of Le Tour, he is one of the best climbers.

As others he need to past first weak alive but in the climbs he is one of the strongest, and in climbs as Mende, the stronger.

Favorite for the the Tour?

Hahaha this is the funniest thing I have seen around here since the Porte's RV

 

[Mr.White]

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Is there life in the old man yet?

Old?

He is one of the favourites of Le Tour, he is one of the best climbers.

As others he need to past first weak alive but in the climbs he is one of the strongest, and in climbs as Mende, the stronger.

Favorite for the the Tour?

Hahaha this is the funniest thing I have seen around here since the Porte's RV

Not so funny I think. Funnier is your comment. he may not be one of the top favorites, but he could definitely end up on the podium