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Rabobank pulls out of pro-cycling

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Well now looky here, all that good he's done for the sport my oh my. Sure Rabobonk is hypocritical, but the devastation is evident; while some contributed more than others. The thing that's so despicable is that there was a perfect symbiosis of mendacity and fraud between Lance Armstrong and the governing body of cycling during a moment in which the sport was trying to go global, but though has now totally backfired. That is he, Lance Armstrong, offered the UCI the perfect "clean and triumphant" image to get the message across, which was to use Cancer Jesus for all his publicity worth in exchange for immunity. At the same time the privileged role even permitted him, Lance Armstrong, to rule over the sport by obtaining an elevated status above and beyond it for all the economic interests. That's the truth. For years both parties took full advantage of this sickening business relationship, Lance as the Tour divus and the UCI as the uppity globe trotters of sport. Lance attained cycling apotheosis, while the UCI put on new events in China, Australia, North and South America, even Africa. In fact it seemed to be the most perfect sweet deal, until it inevitably went kaboom! Lance made cycling more popular both in the US and globally, lent his "phenomenal story" as the cancer survivor-cum-ultimate Tour champion, a myth of course, over to cycling, to cast what had been mainly a European sport all over the planet as it had never been previously projected. Damn right the UCI covered his and his team’s doping! Lance, of course, arrogantly relished in his mafia boss position, while never shrinking from it: dealing out as hid did both blessings and anathemas. While he occasionally unleashed his wrath on those who stood between him and his complete power over the sport with career ruining and economically debilitating effects, just to preserve his Majesty’s sovereignty and fallacious and fraudulent persona. All this without even mentioning the hearings he won against journalists, newspapers, insurance companies, which were all based on the lies of a sociopath and a colossal fraud, to the tune of the millions of dollars he pocketed. The repercussions of what this relationship alone will have done to the two-wheeled sport certainly overrides any so called good it did. Potentially it could prove to be, I would say, destructive beyond even the conventional atomic potency and into the hydrogen zone.
 
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Ferminal said:
Seems they are blaming Armstrong?
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I don't think so, I think the real reason is they felt that the doping was being supported at the highest levels of the sport - translates to UCI. And they said it didn't look like it was going to ever get clean at this rate.

“We are no longer convinced that the international professional world of cycling can make this a clean and fair sport. We are not confident that this will change for the better in the foreseeable future.”
from http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/10/news/rabobank-pulls-sponsorship-team-vows-to-continue_261940

But you are also right - like Millar's tweet - Rabo has been involved in the doping so long. Maybe the bank finally wised up.
 
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Cycling in the crapper

So cycling is in some deep Sh!t, eh?
In America I think its is customary to blame someone, no?
ok so lets blame Mr Armstrong. It is his fault!!
and yes lets also blame the UCI : fat Pat and Mr Verbrugen.
To big to fail some of you said?? or the great good they did far outweighed some of the indiscretions the might have committed?? lets look the other way and give them a pardon and super hero status. Yeah what a great plan!!
Lets say he Never never never did anything wrong. Maybe you'll believe me cause my hand is so deep in Sh!te i don't want anyone to smell it.
all failing miserably now.
Worlds greatest comeback or worlds greatest fraud??

Not to hard to decide now.
 
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WildspokeJoe said:
This is great news!

A few more big sponsors need to pull out.

The only way riders will stop is if they get hurt in the wallet.

Radio Shack is hurting financially - it would be great if they did the same thing.

I knew somebody would write this,,epic fail wrong!!. Less money in sport is the last thing that is needed. If you think that CN,Velonews and others said little about doping before ,wait until wave 2 or 3 of this fallout hits. In the US Armstrong and his band of cash givers, Nissan,FRS,Sram, Trek,AB/Michelob gave to a few races that were borderline. Bisbee, Tour Of The Gila, Altoona,ToMissouri, ToGeorgia none have a chance to come back of stay under the current conditions.
The fellow secret keepers from England,Spain,Australia,Germany, Russia,Belgium, Holland and the US have established that all pro cyclists were hiding something. Now the sport will suffer,Holland just hosted the worlds and now it's biggest squad is funked out of business. I wonder if CN would have the courage to do a follow up to Vos asking for women's versions of races. The outcome is obvious, sponsors are running from the sport and women and juniors will be hit the hardest.
Can't wait to see the Tour Of Utah race announcement or the USPro poster, Levi and CVV airbrushed into a doped history.Danielson and Zabriskie omitted from press releases of past winners of big US events. George as the Grand Marshall in Greenville? Things are bad
 
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Ryo Hazuki said:
lol. that would be the dumbest thing ever. some people will always cheat. learn to live with it. important thing is that whatever they use isn't much a factor as it was in the 90s, where riding jokes like riis, could win the tour

Really? Why is that stupid? Peer pressure is used constantly in group situations.
Do you really think the other riders aren't aware of who's doping?

Besides, that's exactly what Rabo has done. **** our image as a sponsor and we're done.
 
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Really? Why is that stupid? Peer pressure is used constantly in group situations.
Do you really think the other riders aren't aware of who's doping?

no they don't anymore. the bertagnolli tapes proove that where just just goes on a guessing tour about riders he thinks are doping and ferrari dienieing it even
 
Zultronova said:
The fallout from the USADA report continues. What's next.......??

The collateral damage phase is still in its infancy. The costs will far exceed the benefits at least in the real world outside "The Clinic". This is a runaway train now and will destroy anyone/anything in it's path. All the sleeping dogs have been woke up by the choir boys and only blood will satiate them.
 
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Some other big sponsors go and its going to put pressure on the top people.

A shame that Rabobank are going. My belief is that Rabobank are currently one of the cleaner teams in the peloton* and maybe the team/sponsors could have tried to play on this. Might not go down well with Omerta but if there are big upheavals in the sport as a result of current goings-on....

*Barredo's dodgy blood tests presumably occurred before he joined the team as he achieved top marks of 10 before the 2010 Tour. Makes signing him a bit odd though as they should have checked his biological passport and realised he was likely to come under disciplinary action at some point.

here we go again!
 
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ValleyFlowers said:
Giant considering taking over as name-sponsor of Rabobank team
(with RaboBank paying the majority of the bills of course)

The loss of consumer products companies as title sponsors for cycling teams and their replacement with bike manufacturers is now a clear trend, and a sign of a sport in decline, imo.

While it is true that the sport will always be able to count on the sponsorship of the bike manufacturers, their balance sheets - and corresponding ability to promote cycling - pale in comparison to the companies that are leaving.

It's starting to remind me of "professional" racquetball.
 
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I knew somebody would write this,,epic fail wrong!!. Less money in sport is the last thing that is needed. If you think that CN,Velonews and others said little about doping before ,wait until wave 2 or 3 of this fallout hits. In the US Armstrong and his band of cash givers, Nissan,FRS,Sram, Trek,AB/Michelob gave to a few races that were borderline. Bisbee, Tour Of The Gila, Altoona,ToMissouri, ToGeorgia none have a chance to come back of stay under the current conditions.
The fellow secret keepers from England,Spain,Australia,Germany, Russia,Belgium, Holland and the US have established that all pro cyclists were hiding something. Now the sport will suffer,Holland just hosted the worlds and now it's biggest squad is funked out of business. I wonder if CN would have the courage to do a follow up to Vos asking for women's versions of races. The outcome is obvious, sponsors are running from the sport and women and juniors will be hit the hardest.
Can't wait to see the Tour Of Utah race announcement or the USPro poster, Levi and CVV airbrushed into a doped history.Danielson and Zabriskie omitted from press releases of past winners of big US events. George as the Grand Marshall in Greenville? Things are bad

If you want things to change, things have to get worse before they will get better.
 
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personally, I would like to see about 5 or 6 sponsors pull out and that they have to cancel all next season...all of these folks coming outta the woodwork to talk about the bad old days and how everything has been cleaned up for the most part remind me of the festina scandal...it went just like that...money talks and bs walks...if a bunch more sponsors pull out and season is cancelled then maybe, just maybe this dinosaur will get it thru it's thick head...hell, cycling fans ought to start a petition calling on for more sponsors to bail...
 
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Giant considering taking over as name-sponsor of Rabobank team
(with RaboBank paying the majority of the bills of course)

I'm a big Giant fan (I race on two Giant bikes myself) and I follow every team they sponsor, but if they become the title sponsor, they won't last, like the Cervelo TestTeam.

This is because bike sponsors don't attract other commercial sponsors, and running a pro team costs tens of millions a year. That's why most pro teams have multiple sponsors to foot the bill. Besides, having a bike in a bike racing team is a given. If no other non-cycling related businesses get involved, the team loses its appeal, and eventually Giant will have to quit too.
 
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I think the bank's senior management just got told they've got a stack of skeletons in various closets.

What ****es me off is that they're killing the women team, too. That's beyond me, they'd just signed Brand and Guarnier.

Time to restructure the sport.
 
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arjanh said:
I think the bank's senior management just got told they've got a stack of skeletons in various closets.

What ****es me off is that they're killing the women team, too. That's beyond me, they'd just signed Brand and Guarnier.

Time to restructure the sport.

you think the women don't dope? get real...
 
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Their excuse is so lame. They didn't pull out in 2007 or with the Thomas Dekker positive (as it was recorded during his time with them), and they're going now because Lance was doping mostly from 90something to 2005?
Unless if it's a move in advance. With the hors d'oeuvres of the italian enquiry, it seems Menchov (with doping) and the main team with the financial tricks to beat tax-authorities, there will be plenty of bad publicity.
Anyway the timing gives the message "shut up!" to all the cyclists.
 
gjdavis60 said:
The loss of consumer products companies as title sponsors for cycling teams and their replacement with bike manufacturers is now a clear trend, and a sign of a sport in decline, imo.

Combine that thought with worries about all the teams that are either supported by the whim of a billionaire enthusiast or are pseudo national teams. It does not look good.
 
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Pantani_lives said:
I'm sorry that the riders of today have to pay for what happened years ago.

Maybe if the riders of today talked up a lot more about what 'happened' years ago and condemned those who enabled it and kicked them out they would have a decent clean and honest sport........................oh yeah the riders signed for those who made what 'happend' years ago and are making it 'happen' now and hence the deafening silence from the peloton!

This could be very good for cycling. Rabo have fired a big missile across the bow of UCI. Now the riders need to demand UCI be changed!
 
Benotti69 said:
Maybe if the riders of today talked up a lot more about what 'happened' years ago and condemned those who enabled it and kicked them out they would have a decent clean and honest sport........................oh yeah the riders signed for those who made what 'happend' years ago and are making it 'happen' now and hence the deafening silence from the peloton!

This could be very good for cycling. Rabo have fired a big missile across the bow of UCI. Now the riders need to demand UCI be changed!

This was exactly the reaction of the chairman of the Dutch Cycling Union. They are expecting a thorough answer from the UCI and (he said) he won't accept a juridical-only answer.
 
I suspect that Rabobank was afraid of what might come out in the Ferrari investigation. The day after the team is linked to the investigation and--boom!--they are gone, even though they have a big financial obligation that still has to be paid out.