Rabobank(+ the rest): what a stuff up!

[auscyclefan94]

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[Dutchsmurf]

Luckily BMC was brilliant today. Oh wait...

More seriously tho, you can have your whole team in the AGR final, unless one of them is called Gilbert there isn't much use in riding anyway.

 

[hrotha]

Regardless of whether they could have done more today (Gesink didn't look good, Martens disappointed and this isn't a finale for Freire), I think there are obvious hierarchy issues within Rabobank. No one wants to sacrifice their own chances for their teammates.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

like i said in the other thread.

none of them seemed like they wanted to work for each other.
-Friere always comes up short here, the finish is too steep for him.
-Martens was the big dissapointment imo. Was placed well.
-And gesink I though again looked poor/under form. Otherwise I suspect he would have attacked. Don't expect much for the rest of ardennes.

anywho, considering they had 3 guys they probably should have done better. Still could be worse, could be bmc and be non-existant in the race

as for letting gilbert chase, there was nothing loser about that. It was the only way the entire group was going to beat gilbert. and it still failed. In that regard the whole group rode like losers (-purito who attacked on an earlier climb).

They failed on the fiinish tho, should have done better (tho again, I'm not surprised by gesink or friere).

 

[roundabout]

Apart from maybe (maybe-maybe) trying to do what Schleck did there wasn't much else they could have done.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Luckily BMC was brilliant today. Oh wait...

More seriously tho, you can have your whole team in the AGR final, unless one of them is called Gilbert there isn't much use in riding anyway.

What does my favourite team have to do with it? Grow up...

 

[Dutchsmurf]

-Martens was the big dissapointment imo. Was placed well.

Martens is just back from an injury, it was quite surprising he was riding this well already.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

Regardless of whether they could have done more today (Gesink didn't look good, Martens disappointed and this isn't a finale for Freire), I think there are obvious hierarchy issues within Rabobank. No one wants to sacrifice their own chances for their teammates.

yes well said.
Gesink looks poor (not riding like a loser, jsut not good enough).
Friere and AgR is not a winning combo.
And Martens was I agree, the dissapointment consodering the finish. @dutchsmurf, fair point. But i thought he looked pretty good at basque. Might have been a bit much tho I agree.

btw this just a stupid troll thread. Rabo attacked at points in the race, and when it came to the finish were merely not good enough. fail yes, losers no. I guess bmc were losers at flanders
props to the op and his maturity level.

 

[La Pandera]

Is this your attempt to divert attention away from BMC's disappearance from even contending for a podium spot? Why not rag on them instead? The strongest rider won. Rabo played their cards and none of their riders had the legs to stop Gilbert nor did any of the other teams. Leave it at that.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Is this your attempt to divert attention away from BMC's disappearance from even contending for a podium spot? Why not rag on them instead? The strongest rider won. Rabo played their cards and none of their riders had the legs to stop Gilbert nor did any of the other teams. Leave it at that.

Can anyone explain to me then (if all the rabobank riders were all feeling crap) how this is any different to garmin in de ronde. The fact that htey didn't even try or give it a go. They could of finished higher imo. Their wheelsucking effort was poor.

 

[Havetts]

Gesink said on the Dutch tv he wanted to attack after the Keutenberg, but his legs totally cramped up and wasnt able to do anything. So they gambled and hoping he could recover a little, but he couldnt.

 

[La Pandera]

Instead you could have simply posted your avatar to represent your true feelings in regards to BMC's lack of results.

 

[Lanark]

What should they have done?

 

[Havetts]

Their wheelsucking effort was poor.

Blowing up the peloton at 94 till 84 km in the race to go, attacking with LLS and Barredo till 30th km mark and then cramping up leaves you with little other possibilities.

 

[More Strides than Rides]

More seriously tho, you can have your whole team in the AGR final, unless one of them is called Gilbert there isn't much use in riding anyway.

Agreed. If anyone had gone earlier, they would have been out of the top 10 ala Schleck. They put pressure on Gilbert/OLO to chase, which worked out in their favor; they were dragged to the line where they were then beat as individuals by stronger riders.

Can anyone explain to me then (if all the rabobank riders were all feeling crap) how this is any different to garmin in de ronde. The fact that htey didn't even try or give it a go. They could of finished higher imo. Their wheelsucking effort was poor.

Its different because they put 3 in the top 10; I don't think they couldn't have finished higher up, and evidence seems to be emerging in the post race interviews as such. Would you prefer that they "gave it a go" with Schleck? Where did he finish? (Thats only a half-rhetorical question; I haven't seen anything outside of the top 10 yet)

 

[La Pandera]

What does my favourite team have to do with it? Grow up...

This coming from the same person who once described Evans as "delicious".

 

[auscyclefan94]

Blowing up the peloton at 94 till 84 km in the race to go, attacking with LLS and Barredo till 30th km mark and then cramping up leaves you with little other possibilities.

they had 3 guys in the finale. they didn't blow up the peleton up.

Just a post from the other thread

Don't act surprised ACF, that's how they always ride. Rabo are a team of losers, who will never win something major. When they have the chance they always fail, that's a fact. And all this Rabo bashing is true and deserved, they rode like cowards.

Not to mention the form of Gesink looks worrying. He is better at time trialling then climbing these days, how's that even possible? He complete blew up at the Cauberg, that should't happen with a climber that wants to compete with the best climbers at the Tour.

 

[sTTevie]

Rabo indeed rode like a bunch of losers .... in their HOME race!!!

Belgian commentators called them cowards

 

[auscyclefan94]

This coming from the same person who once described Evans as "delicious".

If you were australian and you knew who Bruce McAvaney was you would understand.

 

[Havetts]

Not to mention the form of Gesink looks worrying. He is better at time trialling then climbing these days, how's that even possible? He complete blew up at the Cauberg, that should't happen with a climber that wants to compete with the best climbers at the Tour.

I like to refer to my post

Gesink said on the Dutch tv he wanted to attack after the Keutenberg, but his legs totally cramped up and wasnt able to do anything. So they gambled and hoping he could recover a little, but he couldnt.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

Is this your attempt to divert attention away from BMC's disappearance from even contending for a podium spot? Why not rag on them instead? The strongest rider won. Rabo played their cards and none of their riders had the legs to stop Gilbert nor did any of the other teams. Leave it at that.

yeah this.

friere although I don't really rate his chances here, best hope was to wait for the end. Martens to(who yes just came from injury). Apparently the whole group felt like this or just weren't up to it.

Gesink wasn't good that was clear.
They played there cards and were outclassed. It is simple, on a whole they didn't ride like losers today. Just weren't good enough.

 

[Bala Verde]

Rabo indeed rode like a bunch of losers .... in their HOME race!!!

Belgian commentators called them cowards

I heard that too, but its always a ****ing match between the dutch and the belgians

 

[Dutchsmurf]

It is simple, on a whole they didn't ride like losers today. Just weren't good enough.

I think this is a nice summary. There is a difference between riding as losers and just not being good enough.

The whole group rode exactly like Rabobank did, because it was the best tactic. Katusha with 2 men, didn't ride. Vacansoleil with 2 men, except for a minor attempt with Hoogerland, did nothing. Letting Gilbert do all the work and hoping he would blow it was the only viable tactic available.

 

[La Pandera]

Can anyone explain to me then (if all the rabobank riders were all feeling crap) how this is any different to garmin in de ronde. The fact that htey didn't even try or give it a go. They could of finished higher imo. Their wheelsucking effort was poor.

Did I even mention Garmin/RVV? What does that have to do with this useless thread other than another way to divert attention away from your personal disappointment with your own team's performance? For me your true point is clear as day. Cadel couldn't, GVA wasn't anywhere to be seen so you may as well rag on the Dutchies team just to get something started as a way to mask your pain.

 

[La Pandera]

If you were australian and you knew who Bruce McAvaney was you would understand.

I'm not and I don't so please enlighten me.