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Libertine Seguros said:
another Vuelta, this time eschewing most of the conventions of a GT and trying some completely different ideas (especially for La Vuelta).

Just a wild guess: Pico del Veleta? :D

oh wait that would feature in my vuelta, i constnatly need to remind myself that not everyone is as crazy as I am ;-)
 
Progsprach said:
Just a wild guess: Pico del Veleta? :D

oh wait that would feature in my vuelta, i constnatly need to remind myself that not everyone is as crazy as I am ;-)

see that's something the vuelta should do in order to boast it's status, that looks like a beast and if they ride higher then that on colorado why can't they do it in europe?
 
Right, it's time to dress in orange, get your ikurrina out on display and set the mode to "climbing", because it's time for the Vuelta al País Vasco. Or Euskal Herriko Itzulia, if you prefer. I know I did my longer version of this based on the whole zazpiak bat concept, but this one will be more conventional - the 6 days, starting with a stage that begins and ends in the same place and ending with another (this time an ITT), and almost entirely within the three provinces that make up today's version of País Vasco.

Stage 1: Galdakao - Galdakao, 153km

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Climbs:
Alto de Sarasola (cat.3) 3,1km @ 3,8%
Alto de Autzagane (cat.3) 3,2km @ 5,0%
Gerekiz Gana (cat.3) 3,7km @ 4,0%
Alto de San Pelaio (cat.3) 3,0km @ 6,5%
Puerto de Sollube (cat.2) 5,2km @ 7,1%
Aretxabalgane Gana (cat.2) 6,4km @ 4,4%
Alto El Vivero (Ganguren)(cat.2) 5,6km @ 7,6%

As is the tradition in País Vasco, it's a stage starting and ending in the same place, looping around the town of Galdakao, a sizeable settlement on the fringes of the Bilbao conurbation. The town is home to Igor Antón, and it was here that he made his (ultimately successful) bid for victory when the Vuelta returned to País Vasco in 2011.

This stage is your fairly typical País Vasco opening fare, I feel; with a number of small climbs early on that shouldn't bother too many people as we conduct a loop to the north before heading south into the town of Amorebieta, home of Beñat Intxausti, and this thing, affectionately or otherwise known as "La Patata" by locals. The sculpture that is, not Beñat. After this we take on another small climb, the traditional climb of the Klasika Primavera, Autzagane, and then head for the Urdaibai Estuary. Before we can really head through Urdaibai, however, a couple of further small climbs are required as we leave the flatlands in Muxika and head for Mungia, before going to the coast to the fishing village of Bakio, from which the first strenuous climb of the day begins, the 3km drag up to San Pelaio. The descent leaves us in the beautiful town of Bermeo. From here things start to get serious.

The next climb is the steeper Puerto de Sollube, which as you can see features 3km all over 8% to put some hurt in the legs. You can go further up, to the antennae, but it's hard to find reasonable quality roads to descend there. It would be about 10km at 6,8%, so a more than reasonable MTF. From the Puerto we then descend back towards Mungia, where we double back on ourselves from earlier briefly before climbing up to Aretxabalgane. Though the gradients make this seem weaker than Sollube, some of the parts of that first half of the climb are very, very hard indeed. From there, 37km remain, and we descend to Larrabetzu and take a flat trip back to Galdakao, where we cross the finishing line for the first time with 23,7km remaining. Then, it's climbing time once more!

El Vivero is a spectacularly inconsistent climb, as was shown by last year's Vuelta. Though the average is pretty manageable at 7,6%, it is endlessly ramping up over 10 and flattening out again, making getting into a rhythm difficult. Having climbed this over and over since he was a little boy, it's no wonder Igor Antón has grown into a pure climber. Here, we climb everything the Vuelta did, and then slightly more as we continue onwards, to pass the signal station at Ganguren before descending on a steep and tricky road into Lezama, home of Athletic Club's famous cantera. After that? 12km of rolling, flattish terrain to take us back into Galdakao.

I would expect that this stage would be contested by a small bunch. Attacks should come from the likely GC prospects on the final climb, but unless people are away solo, I would expect that we would have other groups on the road able to take time back. I foresee something a little like the Zierbena stage in 2010, as several groups of 10-15 come to the line together.

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My next project.

Vuelta El Salvador U23

We often hear the UCI banging on about globalization and attracting new continents to the sport of cycling. We all know there is fertile ground for cycling in Latin America, with high popularity in Colombia, Venezuela and the likes, but other countries are still lacking infrastructure and interest. While looking for cycling activity in El Salvador, I didn't find much, it seems the Vuelta El Salvador is dead, and the last update of the government body is from 2010. About time to restart efforts to popularize cycling in the country. I've often been negative about the method of the UCI, to start from the top with cycling efforts. That's why I present the Vuelta El Salvador U23, a Sub-23 race for the highest echelon, which should attract promising teams from both Latin America and Europe, while also giving promising El Salvadorian youngsters a chance (I'm sure there are some).

El Salvador is a small country, just below Mexico, bordering Guatemala (where cycling activity is booming) and Honduras, with high population density (some 340 people per square kilometer), rapid industrialization and a GDP per capita of $7,549, making it a middle income country. One would expect these numbers mean massive damage is done to nature, but the opposite is the case. In the last 20 years, rainforest coverage increased with 20%.

In designing the route, I payed major attention to road surface, and I can pretty much guarantee all stages solely use tarmac roads. Quality of roads may differ, it's impossible to check using satellite images from Google and Microsoft Bing. Sometimes, I had to use major highways, including the most awesome highway in the world, the Pan-American. I tried to limit this as much as possible to maintain realism (and where used, it is only for a short while), and I avoided using dual carriage and motorway like roads all together. Most of the stages use secondary highways or smaller roads.

The Vuelta El Salvador U23 is a stage race of 6 days.

Vuelta El Salvador U23 stage 1: San Miguel - San Luis de la Reina 139km

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(1) Cat. 2 5.9km, 7.8%
(2) Cat. 4 1.1km, 7.5%
(3) Cat. 4 1.1km, 7.6%
(4) Cat. 4 1.7km, 9.0%
(5) Cat. 2 13.5km, 4.9%
(6) Cat. 4 2.3km, 4.6%
(7) Cat. 4 1.5km, 4.0%

Stage 1 of this new race takes us from San Miguel to San Luis de la Reina. San Miguel is the fourth city of El Salvador, with more than 200,000 inhabitants, and the biggest city in the Eastern part of the country.

From the city, the riders head to the north-west, in direction of the mountain range that forms the spine of central America. The road gradually ascends towards the first test of the day, a second category climb climbing through the small village of Sociedad. At the top, the riders look into the natural heart of the country.

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The climb itself is short, but steep, with first a section of some 900 meters at 12% and after a small kink another steep part, at 10% for 1.5km, before flattening out towards the top. Undulating terrain follows, finished off by the second categorized climb of the day, a steep little hill just after Corinto, on a recently asphalted road.

A descent follows, before arriving in Cacaopera, where two short, nasty kinks follow, the second of which features percentages up to 15%.

An easy section follows, where the riders ride along the base of the Cacahuatique, a volcanic, fertile mountain range with lots of agricultural activity.

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This can't last, obviously, and before they know it, the riders have to turn right, climbing on the excellent and scenic road towards Ciudad Barrios at the top. This city of 25,000 inhabitants is a major agricultural trade center of the region. After passing the city, the road becomes narrower and worse, but the riders will now give it everything in the final part of this stage.

Descending towards the finish, the riders have the chance to close, or open, gaps, before, likely, a select group will sprint uphill, on the final climb towards the finish line, in the small village of San Luis de la Reina.

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Looks like an interesting final climb there! Interesting concept too, doing a U23 race. I have toyed with doing a Giro Donne in the past but never actually gone ahead with designing anything other than men's pro races.

Basque Country continues...

Stage 2: Portugalete - Laguardia-Biasteri, 186km

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Climbs:
Torre de Loizaga (cat.3) 2,6km @ 6,7%
Alto de Malkuartu (cat.3) 2,7km @ 6,4%
Puerto de Altube (cat.2) 6,6km @ 4,4%
Puerto de Azazeta (cat.2) 4,4km @ 5,9%
Puerto de la Aldea (cat.2) 4,2km @ 6,6%

The second stage of the Vuelta al País Vasco takes us from Bizkaia to Araba for our customary sort-of sprint stage. Starting on the opposite side of Bilbao's urban sprawl to yesterday, we begin in Portugalete, home of Puente de Vizcaya/Bizkaiko Zubia, the world's oldest transporter bridge, and a UNESCO World Heritage site. The early parts of the stage feature a couple of small categorised climbs as we roll our way through towns like Sopuerta, Güeñes and Llodio, before the slow and gradual drag up to the Puerto de Altube, taking us up to the plains of Araba.

A long and protracted flat period around the main city in the province, Vitoria-Gasteiz, ensues, before the climb of the tougher side of Azazeta. Descending from this, we then have a very typical stretch of Basque rolling terrain, with nothing tough enough to categorise but never-ending up and down before we go to our final big climb of the day, winding our way up to the ceiling of the race, the 1000m Puerto de la Aldea. We are still 35km from the finish, and that's because we're doing something unusual for the Euskal Herriko Itzulia, which is heading into the Rioja Álavesa, the southernmost part of the Basque country, where rocky outcrops host towns while the mountains rise majestically out of the vineyards.

The riders cross the finishing line in Laguardia-Biasteri 17km from the finish, so they have a bit of a look at it before a rolling circuit around the Sierra Álavesa. The finish itself is a bit uphill; Laguardia sits, like many towns in the area, on a small hill, and the last 600m are uphill, occasionally quite steep, as we head into the old walled town to the finish. It isn't so much that this won't be a sprinter's stage - at other races you could say that it wouldn't be a sprinters' stage, but at País Vasco there are a couple of things to take into account - first that few sprinters tend to go to País Vasco, and those that tend to go to it tend to be more versatile ones that can make it to the end on these finishes, like Freire, Gavazzi and Rojas. Certainly this is not too dissimilar from the finish in Viana in the 2010 Vuelta, won by Alejandro Valverde ahead of Óscar Freire.

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Tour of Java - Stage 19 (MTF)
Mount Bromo, 194.3 Km

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Climbs:
Bromo Argosari - 28.6 Km @ 8%
Bromo Ngadisari - 22.8 Km @ 8%
Morerejo - 15.8 Km @ 7.6%
Bromo Ngadas - 19 Km @ 7.7%

They call it queen stage. I call it total carnage.
The 20th day of racing in Java (19 stages + the prologue) is the sort of day that creates heroes. 100 km of ascent, almost 8000 metres of total gain and 4 HC climbs all towards the same legendary place: Gunung Bromo.

At first look, there is nothing special about this mountain. It's not among the highest volcanos nor the one with steepest roads going to the summit. Nevertheless, cycling wise it's one of a kind.
Bromo has an uncanny geological conformation, with a broad flat outer rim that presumably formed centuries ago after a colossal eruption. It actually hosts two volcanos, Bromo and Batok, the latter being non active. The amazing thing here is that the flat rim allows roads to get very close to crater, which can also be climbed on feet (you'll find stairs leading to it).

The stage includes three climbs to this stunning natural beauty (plus an intermediate ascent along the way).
The first is from the south east side and it's the hardest one, with an average gradient of 8% and slopes at 16%.
The ascent from the north east side is the most popular among tourists, with even some accomodations along the way and good road conditions. This road takes you straight to the caldera rim and then crosses it, descending from north west.
The last climb, from south west, is the steadiest of the three. It's basically always at 7% but I'm certain it will cause an awful amount of damage coming from all this, also considering that some parts are cobbled.

I would've added the climb form the south side if it existed, but there's Gunung Semeru there.
Finishing line would be somewhere around here but don't ask me to find you the road.

Another view on Bromo:
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At the bottom of the crater there's a nice little temple where riders might wanna stop and ask some lenience to their own God.


Finally you can take a look at the race organizer proudly on top of his beast
 
This time we are going to Italy (one might say Zomegnan land), where I have created a true monster stage, taking the riders from Belluno and 225 km later arriving on the top of Passo Pordoi.

Belluno - Passo Pordoi (225 km)

Before tackling the Pordoi the riders will have to deal with five high mountains before, where the final will be the Giau-Fedeia-Pordoi combo :cool:

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I must say that I have become so fond of this stage, so when I sooner or later decide to create a Giro, this will be the queen stage.

For now I just hope it will get a:
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Eshnar said:
Noob :p
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only 197 kms.
If you need it longer you can add Passo Brocon at the beginning.
Originally I wanted to do something like with a merge of the Giau stages of 2011 and 2012 ending on Pordoi, but decided that Giau would be too far away to be part of the final. To me it would be a waste of Giau, as there probably wouldn't be any racing on it, when it isn't even Cima Coppi. IMO.
 
Netserk said:
Originally I wanted to do something like with a merge of the Giau stages of 2011 and 2012 ending on Pordoi, but decided that Giau would be too far away to be part of the final.
True but in your stage you took only the final part of the Giau, from the easy side. It's not a keypoint more than it is in mine. ;)
 
Eshnar said:
True but in your stage you took only the final part of the Giau, from the easy side. It's not a keypoint more than it is in mine. ;)
I know it is the easiest side, but we still saw racing on that side in 2011, but then again they climbed it from the bottom, which I couldn't do without having lots of flat before :eek:
 
Vuelta El Salvador U23 stage 2: San Miguel - Zacatecoluca 145km

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(1) Cat. 1 24.2km, 4.3%

The second stage of this race is fairly straightforward. Apart from a big mountain in the middle, the roads are straight and flat. We again start in San Miguel, this time heading west, fully utilizing highway 2E, the Southermost highway in the country, which will be closed for the stage. Traffic will have to use the Pan-American, but if needed are able to turn southwards and use the 2E for shorter stretches.

The riders will bypass the most important city, Usulután, along the route, before heading north, towards the only climb of the day, in the Sierra of Chinameca.

Coming from 200 meters above sea level, the top is near the village of Alegria at nearly 1200 meters. As the climb is 24.2km long, the gradient is never high, the steepest part being 9% for roughly one kilometer in the middle of the climb. As it is still early in the race, sprinter types can survive this climb. They will have to, if they want to have a chance of victory.

The landscape is stunning, the riders climb along the Tecapa volcano, which features a beautiful lake, the Laguna de Alegria, just 2km south of the village

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After staying at altitude for a while, the road heads back towards the coast and downwards towards highway 2. The descent is far from straightforward, with some tricky corners.

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The rest of the stage is easy, running parallel to the coastline, and mostly flat. However, the last few kilometers are slightly uphill, at some 1.5 or 2%, to add extra spice to the likely sprint outcome.

The riders finish in Zacatecoluca, a relatively big city only separated from capital El Salvador by the San Vincente volcano. Home to 61,000 people, the city is an important regional center with some stunning old landmarks, including a beautiful cathedral, the Santa Lucia holy church.

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Netserk said:
This time we are going to Italy (one might say Zomegnan land), where I have created a true monster stage, taking the riders from Belluno and 225 km later arriving on the top of Passo Pordoi.

Belluno - Passo Pordoi (225 km)

Before tackling the Pordoi the riders will have to deal with five high mountains before, where the final will be the Giau-Fedeia-Pordoi combo :cool:

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I must say that I have become so fond of this stage, so when I sooner or later decide to create a Giro, this will be the queen stage.

For now I just hope it will get a:
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Fedaia is included so at least you will get the Libertine stamp of approval. :p
 
Tour of Java - Stage 20
Sumber Baru - Banyuwangi, 139 Km

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I've nothing more to ask to my Tour.
This is a classical final stage tho show jerseys and smile at the camera. If any sprinter survived the previous days, this is the final chance.

Banyuwangi is a dull small city, but it's the port to Bali if anyone's interested in carrying the journey on and hosts a couple of world famous spots for surfers. Plus the natural setting around the city is terrific (but that's valid in most parts of the island).

Some 30 km west of Banyuwangi you can find the Ijen crater lake:
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This is the end.
 
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Tour of Australia - Stage 14

Well these mountain stages sure make mine look inadequate, although it's not like I have much of a choice there.

The third weekend of my Tour Australia sees 2 more mountain stages, the 1st 160kms from Omeo to the ski resort of Falls Creek. We begin with the ascent up to Mt. Hotham, Australia's highest paved road and thus the high point of the tour. Following the descent, riders tackle the Tawonga gap climb, before passing through the lovely town of Mt. Beauty. From here, we swing south-east, and begin the final climb of the day, up to the village at Falls Creek.

Climbs
2.6km, 7.25km at 6.5%
23.3km, 4.58km at 6.4%
54.3km, 1.81km at 5.1% (high point of tour)
108.8km, 9.44km at 5.1%
145.5km, 14.18km at 6.0%

Total Ascent - 3724m.

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@Eshnar and others who uses Tracks4bikers:
When I want to make stages longer than 200 km, I know that I'll have to do the mapping in another program, and then upload it to Tracks4bikers. BUT I use(d) biketoaster to do just that, but when I download the .gpx file and upload it again, the stage is suddenly shorter (on paper) than it should be :eek:
 
Netserk said:
@Eshnar and others who uses Tracks4bikers:
When I want to make stages longer than 200 km, I know that I'll have to do the mapping in another program, and then upload it to Tracks4bikers. BUT I use(d) biketoaster to do just that, but when I download the .gpx file and upload it again, the stage is suddenly shorter (on paper) than it should be :eek:
In the summary it appears shorter (dunno why) but if you edit it you'll see nothing wrong has happened ;)
 
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Tour of Australia - Stage 15

We need some road upgrades here with 30kms of rough road needing to be upgraded.

We start the third Sunday in Benalla, the home of Baden Cooke. We head south for 60kms, past the shores of Lake Nillahcootie to the town of Mansfield, home to another Australian cyclist in Simon Gerrans. We then swing north through Mt Samaria state park, before swinging back south through the Tolmie hills. With 40kms to go, the riders swing eastwards, towards the final climb of the day up to another ski resort in Mt. Buller.

Climbs
78.3km, 6.82km at 6.6%
106.7km, 5.28km at 4.5%
118.0km, 8.63km at 5.0%
189.6km, 16.84km at 5.9% (last 2.4km at 8.1%)

Total Ascent - 3545m

First 20kms missing, all flat.
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