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Stage 2: San Carlos de Bariloche - Paso Cardenal Antonio Samoré, 145km

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Climbs:
Alto Estancia del Carmén (cat.3) 3,8km @ 3,9%
Cerro Espejo (cat.3) 6,7km @ 1,8%
Alto del Totoral (cat.3) 1,4km @ 5,7%
Paso Cardenal Antonio Samoré (cat.1) 10,4km @ 3,9%

The second stage of the trimmed-back, slicker and more professional Vuelta a Bariloche features a "mountaintop finish," but the shorter length and nature of the race will not cause it to fall outside of its expected remit as an early-season race.

After returning from whence they came after yesterday's stage, the riders will once more set off from San Carlos de Bariloche today, the home of the race. The first few kilometres are a loop around the city, taking in the short drag of a categorised climb to Estancia del Carmén. After that it's a long and mostly flat but slightly rolling circumnavigation of the eastern side of Lago Nahuel Huapi. This stage from La Etapa Argentina shows much of the route here - at least as far as the town of Villa la Angostura. The route up until this point has been filled to bursting point with spectacular sights, with views back across the lake to Bariloche and sweeping roads. With scenery like this at least the helicams can have fun if the racing's not that exciting en route to Angostura. To tell the truth, I could just post up to the character limit of photos of the scenery around Lago Nahuel Huapi and I wouldn't get bored even if you would.

After this, we have the climb of Cerro Espejo. In that sportif they do not do the whole thing, but the whole thing isn't very hard anyway. This stretch of road is best known perhaps for a minor controversy when it was alleged that Adolf Hitler had lived in this lakeside retreat after the war. Zombie genocidal maniacs or no zombie genocidal maniacs, however, the race is on, with a short climb up to Lago Totoral just after we take our final turn and head onto the road to the Chilean border. Then, it's a short flat run-in to our final climb.

The road to the former Paso Puyehue, named after a lake and a volcano nearby (and subsequently the Chilean city at its other end), the latter of which erupted a couple of years back, showering the whole region in ash and destroying a whole skiing season at Bariloche, killing one of the region's major earnings, does not boast the most amazing of credentials, averaging just under 4% for 10km. However, bearing in mind that this is early season, there is plenty of scope for riders to attack; this is not Big Bear's consistent 3% grades. Rather, it opens up at 5% followed by some inconsistent flat/5% stretches. The fourth kilometre is almost all at 7%, followed by two more at 5%. After this, about 4,5km from the line, there is a stretch of just over a kilometre of flat/downhill false flat, before kicking back up again, with another stretch at 7% between 1 and 2km from the line. The finish itself is just after the highest point, and sits on the border between Argentina and Chile. The scenery continues to steal the show, but the road has its own charm. On the steeper sections you even get some Alpine-style switchbacks and hairpins, before finishing with a view of the basalt column of the Cerro Pantojo. Personally, I expect a few late attacks on the slopes of Paso Cardenal Samoré, but the most likely outcome is a small bunch of the elites of the bunch duking it out a number of seconds ahead of the rest of the group.

San Carlos de Bariloche:
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Paso Cardenal Antonio Samoré:
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STAGE 7 Guardiagrele - Ancona 200 kms
Quite dangerous stage along the coast, very windy and with a twisty finale. Sprinters could make it but it'll be hard for them.
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STAGE 8 Ancona - Villagrande
Another chance for the climbers. This stage runs through the mountain of Pantani ;-) After that, another little climb will lead the escapees to Villagrande.
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Monte Carpegna: 11.4 kms @ 8.4%

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STAGE 9 Villagrande - Firenze 161 kms
Hilly stage perfect for Ardennes riders. Fiesole is to be climbed from the side they'll be descending next year.

Poggio Della Lombardona: 11 kms @ 6.2%
Passo Della Consuma: 20 kms @ 3.4%
Vetta Le Croci: 4 kms @ 9%
Fiesole: 2.1 kms @ 8.6%
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STAGE 10 Firenze - Pistoia 38 kms ITT
Long (not too much tho) and flat. Here only raw power counts.
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Libertine Seguros said:
I don't know about others, but I use print selection (Cmd+Shift+4 on a Mac) as opposed to print screen (though that would work, just be more time consuming), then upload to a specialist image hosting site like picasa, imageshack or tinypic.

Thank you

I have designed a 7 stage Tour of the Alps. Specifically the French and Italian Alps, starting in Imperia and working its way north. 3 MTF, 3 descent finishes and a MTT. See how I go getting it up.
 
STAGE 11 Pistoia - Sestri Levante 171 kms
One of the most classic transitional stages the Giro has offered in his history. The Passo Del Bracco has seen much more racing than any of us.

Passo Del Bracco 10 kms @ 4.3%
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STAGE 12 Sestri Levante - Bobbio 241 kms
Maybe I exaggerated a little bit here. Hope you'll forgive me :D

7 categorized climbs for the queen stage of the Appennines:
Passo Del Bocco: 15.3 @ 5.6%
Passo Cento Croci: 13.1 @ 5.2%
Passo Del Tomarlo: 10.3 kms @ 6.8%
Fregorolo: 5.5 kms @ 6.7%
Casa Del Romano: 15.7 kms @ 4.8%
Passo Del Giovà: 14 kms @ 6.7%
Monte Lesima: 5 kms @ 10.9%

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Stage 3: Lago Falkner - San Martín de los Andes, 140km

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Climbs:
Cerro Negro (cat.3) 3,5km @ 4,0%
Alto Buenos Aires Chico (cat.3) 1,1km @ 8,8%
Miramás San Martín (cat.2) 3,3km @ 7,7%
Centro de Esquí Chapelco (cat.1) 6,0km @ 6,4%
Alto Buenos Aires Chico (cat.3) 1,1km @ 8,8%
Miramás San Martín (cat.2) 3,3km @ 7,7%
Centro de Esquí Chapelco (cat.1) 6,0km @ 6,4%
Alto Buenos Aires Chico (cat.3) 1,1km @ 8,8%
Alto Buenos Aires Chico (cat.3) 1,1km @ 8,8%

In terms of the number of climbs, this is our most intense day, with the riders facing a number of summits in the short distance. The riders will head from Villa la Angostura in the morning and take the team buses along the unsealed sections of the Camino de los Siete Lagos, an important (and popular tourist) route between Villa la Angostura and San Martín de los Andes which connects, as its name suggests, seven lakes. The seven are Correntoso, Espejo, Villarino, Falkner, Machónico, Escondido and finally Lácar. The stage begins at the camping grounds on a narrow isthmus-like stretch of land between Lago Villarino and Lago Falkner, and finishes in a city on the shoreline of the final lake in the sequence.

The first part of the stage is a simple rolling route of 50km taking us along the complete paved stretch of the Camino, taking in the usual incredible scenery that I would hope the Vuelta a Bariloche would become famous for. Once we reach San Martín de los Andes, the difficult part of the stage begins. A short but occasionally steep dig to a suburb called Buenos Aires Chico serves as a warning shot, before we start the road up to Chapelco. I have divided this into two categorised climbs, as there is a brief descent in the middle of it. This road grinds uphill to the ski resort at Chapelco. This could be a finish, but I preferred not to after the uphill finish yesterday. The riders then descend back down on a gradual route to the shores of Lake Lácar before getting back to San Martín to do it all again.

After completing the second lap, the riders take on a much shorter lap only including the small suburban climb and not the bigger, tougher climb to the ski station. This means that the Chapelco climb tops out for the final time with 38km remaining and two more (small) climbs to come on the short closing circuit. The final time over the short final climb comes with 6,7km to the line. As a result I think that this could create some interesting racing, with a variety of form levels coming into the race. In order to gain maximum time riders will need to form groups coming off the final climb of Chapelco, as it will be harder to gain major time on the closing circuit, however with the circuit being far from flat there will be opportunities to attack on that closing circuit to open up some GC gaps.

Camping Lago Falkner:
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San Martín de los Andes:
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STAGE 13 Bobbio - Alba 154 kms
Stage for sprinters, but the Passo Del Penice at the very start of the stage could create a strong breakaway.

Passo Del Penice: 13 kms @ 6.6%
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STAGE 14 Alba - Casteldelfino 173 kms
The Giro tackles the Alps with the awesome combo used only in 2003. The finish is in Casteldelfino in order to avoid the ramps just before Chianale, that would make this a MTF :p

Colle D'Esischie: 20.3 kms @ 7%
Colle Di Sampeyre: 16.2 kms @ 8.2%
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STAGE 15 Casteldelfino - Pinerolo 239 kms
Very long stage with Moncenisio and Finestre before Pra Martino.

Colle Del Moncenisio: 14 kms @ 6.6%
Colle Delle Finestre: 18.6 kms @ 9.1%
Colle Pra Martino: 6.9 kms @ 6%

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STAGE 16 Pinerolo - Monza 207 kms
Easy stage for sprinters. The finish will be in the famous circuit (just one lap).
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STAGE 17 Monza - Negrar 213 kms
Flat run in before the HC of the day. The riders will climb the Passo Fittanze Della Sega, but not all the way to the top. In fact, at 2 kms to the top they'll take a secondary route to the Monte Cornetto, featuring a nice kilometer and a half at 12%. After this, only descent.
Monte Cornetto (Fittanze Della Sega): 13.3 kms @ 9.9%
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STAGE 18 Negrar - Conegliano 154 kms
Final chance for the sprinters.
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STAGE 19 Conegliano - Misurina 173 kms
Dolomites :)
The combo Duran/Staulanza/Giau/Tre Croci will end at the Misurina Lake, just at the foot of the Tre Cime Di Lavaredo. This is the real queen stage of this race.

Passo Praderadego: 6.7 kms @ 9.1%
Passo Duran: 12.5 kms @ 7.9%
Forcella Staulanza: 12.6 kms @ 6.7%
Passo Giau: 10.1 kms @ 9.1%
Passo Tre Croci: 8.1 kms @ 7.1%
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STAGE 20 Misurina - Bormio 251 kms
The longest stage of the race, with Passo Monte Giovo in the middle, before the Cima Coppi.

Passo Monte Giovo: 15 kms @ 7.5%
Passo Dello Stelvio: 24.3 kms @ 7.4%
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Stage 21 Bormio - Brescia 188 kms
We're almost there... This is the final chance for everyone. Since the philosophy of the race is to have riders attacking from far, sounds fair that the final stage gives the chance for a desperate attack, before a flattish finale.

Passo Del Mortirolo (Grosio): 14.8 kms @ 8.3%
Passo Croce Domini: 20.5 kms @ 7.5%
Passo Della Maniva: 15.2 kms @ 6.9%
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Ferminal said:
173km Queen stage :D You've been Acquarone'eed!
LOL I knew someone was gonna come up with this.
It's a reasoned choice ;) In such a race I couldn't make a stage far harder than the others. I need action almost everywhere, so I need riders to feel like there's no stage particularly harder than the others (hope this is understandable)
 
Eshnar said:
LOL I knew someone was gonna come up with this.
It's a reasoned choice ;) In such a race I couldn't make a stage far harder than the others. I need action almost everywhere, so I need riders to feel like there's no stage particularly harder than the others (hope this is understandable)

Stage 19 needs to go over a couple more climbs after Giau to finish in Canazei :)
 
Stage 4: Villa La Angostura - Villa Catedral, 151km

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Climbs:
San Carlos de Bariloche (Belgrano)(cat.3) 1,8km @ 5,6%
Balcón Gutiérrez (cat.2) 4,4km @ 6,5%
Balcón Gutiérrez (cat.2) 4,4km @ 6,5%
Balcón Gutiérrez (cat.2) 4,4km @ 6,5%
Balcón Gutiérrez (cat.2) 4,4km @ 6,5%

The fourth stage of the Vuelta a Bariloche retraces some of our steps from stage 2, following the same path along the shores of Lago Nahuel Huapi, through towns such as Dina Huapi and past the airport. At about the halfway point in the stage we hit the race's hometown of Bariloche once more, and take our time to warm the riders up with a short climb, the brief slog up to the barrio of Belgrano. The riders then head along the Avenida de los Pioneros, before a loop which will be taken three and a half times, with a solid climb on it. It starts at Los Cohiues, at the edge of Lago Gutiérrez. We are then climbing up to the mirador that overlooks the lake on one side, and the ski facilities of Cerro Catedral, the most famous in all of South America, on the other. You can see the base of the road at the top and right of this photo. The partly-unsealed climb is not long, but will offer plenty of opportunities for an attacker to make a difference. The first 1,5km all average between 7 and 10%, before the climb flattens out. The next 2,3km range from flat to 6%, never really settling in one place, but the final 700m are what will cause the damage, ramping up to 11% and even a maximum of 14% at the summit, from which they can look back at the lake beneath them. There is a brief descent before hitting the ski village of Villa Catedral. On the first three passages the riders will continue on down the hill on a road that twists and turns whilst giving pretty views of the finish as the riders descend. On the fourth time, they finish at the ski village, just 1,8km after the summit of the final ascent to the Balcón Gutiérrez. This is the day for the big GC moves, for sure, as the circuit is under 20km long and the steep finish to the climb makes gaps appearing before the final 5km a viable option too, and hopefully the uphill finish at Paso Puyehue and the circuits at San Martín de los Andes will have left some riders with a deficit to make up.

Villa La Angostura:
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Villa Catedral:
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Giro di Amaury

A bit redundant doing this as Acquarone has already managed it...

Prologue: Verona ITT 6.7km

Nontechnical and flat chrono

Stage 1: Verona - Portogruaro 189km

Flat

Stage 2: Oderzo - Ravenna 188km

Flat day along the coast

Stage 3: Rimini - Ascoli Piceno 234km

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Long day with many climbs with a finish coming off a technical descent

Stage 4: Pescara TTT 25km

Up and back TTT along the coast.

Stage 5: Pescara - Lucera 170km

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Flat until a Gilbert-Sagan finish.

Stage 6: Isernia - Monte Cavo 173km

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173km Monte Cavo

First "MTF".

Stage 7: Carsoli - L'Aquila 200km

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A few climbs but all of them very easy, good breakaway stage.
 
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Working on a Giro d'Italia of my own...

Prologue: Reggio Calabria ITT, 3.9 km

http://ridewithgps.com/routes/1738222

Stage 1: Melito di Porto Salvo to Cittanova, 216.5 km

http://ridewithgps.com/routes/1738218

Whoever it is that is trying to fight against frontloading, THIS will do it. 10,786 meters of climbing on the opening road stage of the Giro within Aspromonte National Park. I can't get ridewithgps to declare any of these as climbs, but it's fairly obvious to anybody that many of the sprinters may well be HD on Stage 1, if their teams are stupid enough to enroll them in this tour. Amazing that you can find difficult climbs away from the Dolomites within Italy...and some of these climbs have TERRIBLE ramps of 30-35%.

Stage 2: Cittanova to Serra san Bruno, 205.9 km

http://ridewithgps.com/routes/1738237

Another stage with nearly 10,000 meters of climbing (ignore that climb around 75 km, however, as that's inside a tunnel). Still about 9,600 meters of climbing, however, and still with quite a few ramps in the 25-30%+ range. Day 2 of Aspromonte National Park will make plenty of riders glad that this is the final day there.

Stage 3: Catanzaro to Azienda Forestale, 218.1 km

http://ridewithgps.com/routes/1738267

A kindler, gentler mountain stage, with merely 8,348 meters of climbing. The most difficult part of the stage is early, on the entrance to Sila National Park, but it's difficult enough in the final 80k to be selective.

Stage 4: Castrovillari to San Chirico Raparo, 193.1 km

http://ridewithgps.com/routes/1738277

"Only" 7,956 meters of climbing, but included in that is the first hilltop finish of the Giro, although it's a bit weak to call this an MTF. Most of the stage is spent in Pollino National Park, before ending at the entrance to the adjacent Ente Parco Nazionale dell'Appennino Lucano - Val d'Agri - Lagonegrese. Perhaps the best thing about Italy is that you can almost follow the dark green National Parks all the way up the ankle of the boot, and find difficult stages one after another without really looking all that hard.

Stage 5: San Chirico Raparo to Pietrapertosa (MTF), 222.5 km

http://ridewithgps.com/routes/1738294

Not the direction I had planned on taking this route, but at 8,984 meters of climbing on the stage, and with ramps on the finishing climb of over 30%, this is not a stage for the faint of heart. It's up and down ALL day, and after these first six days, I may want to have armed guards at the race director's suite to make sure nobody tries to fulfill the bounty that a team director or 22 would place on my head!

Stage 6: Sala Consilina to Vallo della Lucania, 196.6 km

http://ridewithgps.com/routes/1740116

Another stage with over 7,500 meters of climbing, this one grading at 7,646 meters. Much of it is early, but there's enough later in the stage to keep things interesting.

Stage 7: Montecorvino Rovella to Mount Vesuvius, 170 km

http://ridewithgps.com/routes/1740139

The "easiest" stage yet, at 6,698 meters of climbing, but that's small consolation for those who actually have to do the climbing, including the finishing climb at Mount Vesuvius.

Stage 8: Pozzuoli to Naples ITT, 56.8 km

http://ridewithgps.com/routes/1740173

A long time trial, but even this is not exempt from climbing, with the first half being up-and-down the entire way, and the second half having the one "major" climb along the outskirts of Vesuvio National Park. Nonetheless, a much needed rest day awaits.

Stage 9: Montesarchio to Lago del Matese, 218.3 km

http://ridewithgps.com/routes/1741265

Another day with nearly 8,000 meters of climbing following the rest day, including two separate trips through the Parco del Matese. The hardest climb summits nearly 100 km before the finish, at the top of the Bocca della Selva, but overall, another very tough stage.

Stage 10: Abbateggio to Passo Lanciano MTT, 16.6 km

http://ridewithgps.com/routes/1744753

Another very difficult day, although at least this one is short, but against the clock. 1,364 meters of climbing in just 16.6 km is not very easy, of course.

Stage 11: L'Aquila to Baita, 192.1 km

http://ridewithgps.com/routes/1781395

Another 6,813 meters of climbing to an MTF.

Stage 12: Livorno to Marra, 218.3 km

http://ridewithgps.com/routes/1781434

Another 8,436 meters of climbing, with a 24.7% ramp in the final three kilometers to the HTF. First 60km are along the Mediterranean, but once it goes uphill, it goes uphill.

Stage 13: Bovec, Slovenia to Monte Crostis, Italy, 234.1 km

http://ridewithgps.com/routes/1781487

It's not just the 8,782 meters of climbing that makes this one noteworthy, but some of the climbs that make this stage so brutal as well. Right off the bat, the ride through Triglav National Park, and then into Austria, where they make the climb up to Sonnenalpe Nassfeld. Problem is, those climbs simply exist to compound the pain that will come later, in the final 45 kilometers, when the riders swing around to tackle the west side of the Zoncolan, followed immediately by the finishing climb up the infamous Monte Crostis. The riders would be begging for a rest day at this point, but a race director would have to be a total idiot to have a rest day be on a Sunday, so they get one more day of racing before their bodies get a rest.

Stage 14: Paluzza, Italy to Grossglockner, Austria, 152.8 km

http://ridewithgps.com/routes/1781507

A ride up the east side of the Zoncolan this time, followed by a loop back across the Pie de Pecol back to Paluzza, and then a ride along the Austrian countryside, rolling through the Pass Iselsberg, before finishing at the Grossglockner. Edit: I had initially put in the rest day here, but I've decided I need to balance the route with a time trial here, before the rest day.

Stage 15: Innsbruck, Austria ITT, 57.2 km

http://ridewithgps.com/routes/1787710

A bit hilly, but the gradients aren't too severe, so it won't suit the pure climber.

And now, the rest day.

Stage 16: Bolzano to Cortina d'Ampezzo, 231.5 km

http://ridewithgps.com/routes/1787719

Another brutal day, over 8,700 meters of climbing, and the climbs are BRUTAL, with the key climbs being the Giau and the climbs around Tre Cime di Lavaredo.

Stage 17: Cortina d'Ampezzo to Mezzano, 134.8 km

http://ridewithgps.com/routes/1787726

A short day, but with still over 5,300 meters of climbing, not an easy day.

Stage 18: Trento to Peio, 160.8 km

http://ridewithgps.com/routes/1787730

Another difficult day, but nothing compared to the monster coming tomorrow.

Stage 19: Prato Allo Stelvio to Stelvio, 174.5 km

http://ridewithgps.com/routes/1787731

The monster, with two separate trips up the Stelvio, one right at the start of the stage and one as the MTF, plus ascents of the Mortirolo and the Gavia. A day EVERYBODY will want to end.

Stage 20: Milan to Turin, 194.5 km

http://ridewithgps.com/routes/1787745

An "easier" stage to finish things, but there is still an intriguing-enough climb late in the stage to make a difference.