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Giro stage: Ventimiglia - Sampeyre; 221 km

This stage begins in Ventimiglia near San Remo. It is located between Ligurian Sea and Alps rising up to the sky. First climb of the day is Col de Vescavo. Beginning of this ascent is in Italy, but the top is in France, where the route stays for about 60 km. Next ascent is Col de Brouis. It's a steady climb at 5% with few turns near the top. After going down to the valley, route goes past nice town Saorge.

However, real fun begins in the town of Tende where starts the ascent to the Col de Tende. It is not very well surfaced and has 64 switchbacks. The descent, in Italy once again, is paved fortunately. After 40 kms of descent and false flat, comes another climb.

Madonna del Colletto is a shorter one, but it will definitely hurt. We can't expect many attacks, when looking at what lies further.
Yes, it is the great duo of Fauniera and Sampeyre. In the last 85 km of this stage, riders will climb 3300 meters. Here are some glorious views from Fauniera: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8; and Sampeyre : 1, 2.

Finish is in Sampeyre after descent from colle di Sampeyre. There is one more hill before finish line at Piazza della Vittoria. It is directly in the town. 1 km long with 6,3% and tops 500 meters to go.

Climbs:
Col de Vescavo (20) - 5,6 km; 6,7%
Col de Brouis(35) - 10,6 km; 5,1%
Col de Tende (79) - 17 km; 6,3%
Madonna del Colletto (124) - 5,6 km; 9,5%
Colle della Fauniera(160) - 25 km; 7%
Colle di Sampeyre (204) - 16,5 km; 8,3%

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Tour of Australia - Stage 18

Queen Stage time. 207.7km from Tumbarumba to Thredbo.

We start where we finished yesterday, with the days climbing looming on the horizon. The climbing begins around 12kms in, and continues right through the stage. The riders travel through some stunning scenery, particularly after they make their way onto the Alpine way at Khancoban. The last 60kms provides lovely views of the Main range of the NSW Alps, including mainland Australia's highest point, Mt. Kosciuzko. Following the final climb, there is an 8km descent into the ski resort of Thredbo.

Climbs.
54.7km, 11.14km at 7.1%
75.0km, 4.80km at 8.3%
134.1km, 4.71km at 7.4%
141.1km, 8.24km at 5.5%
163.8km, 7.10km at 6.1%
184.1km, 15.62km at 7.2%

Total ascent - 5150m.

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TheBigT said:
Stage 17 begins across the river from yesterday's start, in Wodonga's twin city of Albury, marking the 4th state of this Tour.
The first 50km of the stage meanders around Lake Hume. After that, the riders will travel through some scenic NSW High Country. The run in to the finish in Tumbarumba is a bit more difficult than yesterday's, and as such should suit someone looking to launch an attack from either a breakaway or the peloton, althougha sprinter could hold on.

Some observations (from a former local):

* If you wanted to, you could throw in a dirt road climb early in the stage - the local cycling club has a "dirt berg" race.
* the roads are all deader that a parrot in a Python sketch.
* there ain't going to be a lot of spectators; you're avoiding Tallangatta and Corryong, the two biggest towns potentially on the route (though that's not saying much).
* The early part of the route will look lovely if there's water in the lake; it'll look bloody awful without it.
 
Sometimes I wonder how similar our thoughts are here (in the thread) :eek:
I was partly planning a TdF-route, where one of the stages would start in Menton, go over Col de Tende (with more than 50 (!) hairpins on the southern ascent), ascent Fauniera from the east and descent south and ending with Lombarde ascent, and descending briefly to Isola 2000 :eek:
 
The remaining stages until the first rest day:

Stage 5: Aix-en-Provence - Mont Ventoux, 140 km

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It is only the 5th stage, but the peloton already has to tackle the most difficult MTF of the race. Before the Mont Ventoux, there are four other climbs of varying difficulty:

Côte des Platières: km 5, 2,8km @ 4,8%, 4th category
Côte du Pointu: km 45, 3.4km @ 5.2%, 3rd category
Col de Lagarde d'Apt, km 73, 12.1km @ 6.6%, 1st category
Col de Notre Dame des Abeilles: km 99, 8.5km @ 3.7%, 3rd category

Stage 6: Vaison-la-Romaine - Montpellier, 143km.

A flat featureless stage, but the landscape is beautiful. The first real opportunity for the sprinters.

Stage 7: Montpellier - Albi, 189km

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Despite two second category climbs along the way, this stage will likely finish in a (reduced) bunch sprint, as it is mainly on flat roads and the last climb tops out with still 40 slightly descending km's to go.

Stage 8: Castres - Plateau de Bonascre, 200km.

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The stage start quite easy, with just a small 3rd category climb some 15km after the start and lots of flat roads. With 70km to go, however, the fun starts. First with the unknown Col du Garavel, 13km @ 5.7%, but with a steep begin. This climb crests at 1256m with 58km to go. Next is the more famous Port de Pailhères, with its summit 29km before the finish. The final climb, Plateau de Bonascre is one of the steepest of this year's tour, but due to its short length only a 1st category climb.

Stage 9: Saint-Girons - Bagnères-de-Bigorre, 186km. As with the previous stage, I just took the stage ASO designed and added one climb. Here I added the Port de Balès before the Col de Peyresourde. This gives us four nice climbs, directly linked to each other. There's still a long descent to the finishline to deal with.

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Tour of Denmark

I have designed this race a while ago, but since I don't have much free time lately I will post just profiles and some basic information. You can have a closer look on the stages by following the link.

(be prepared for exaggerated profiles)

Stage 1: Nykobing Falster - Kobenhavn; 177 km

Flat stage to open this race

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Stage 2: Kobenhavn - Odense; 212 km

Longest stage and it is exposed to wind, actually every one of them is I think.

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Following on from my Peace Race, I have something else in mind that came from ideas I was unable to fit into the Friedensfahrt... and in a moment of shock, awe and possibly horror I am now going to introduce to you a mostly flat race (gulp)!

I have put together a short (four stage) race in a small corner of Germany where mountains are at a premium; hills are far from plentiful, but roads are well suited to difficult racing. This would be a race ideally suited to the early season, preparing riders for the Classics. Ideally, it would fall when Easter is early, because then it can be a preparation race for the biggest Classics as well as tying in with the traditions of its home region as best as possible. That is for this is the Lausitz Rundfahrt, or perhaps to explain a little more clearly, the Tour des Sorbengebiets. Well, or possibly Jězdźić po Łužica/Łužyca in the local tongue. Lusatian Sorbs have been inhabiting this corner of Germany for hundreds of years, and remain there to this day. These are Slavic people, who speak (in ever dwindling numbers) Slavic languages, and have Slavic customs and culture. The official number of Sorbs is now down to 60.000, 40.000 in Oberlausitz and 20.000 in Niederlausitz, and though great Sorbian traditions such as the elegant easter egg painting live on, many customs die out, increasingly defeated by the dominant German. This has been the case even on those occasions where the Germans have been willing to help - the SED, for example, offered many concessions to Sorbian culture in the DDR, at the same time as inadvertently tearing down community traditions in favour of massive kolkhozes and razing entire villages to make room for lignite quarries.

Those lignite quarries have been a blight on the countryside in the Lausitz, especially in the flatter northern part of it, which lies in Brandenburg (Oberlausitz lies in Saxony). However, since many of those quarries have closed (and all are planned to cease activity by 2020), this former flat, heather-lined land has been converted into the Lausitzer Seenland, an artificially-created but impressively pretty region with a number of large, open lakes created from the flooding of these quarries, designed to create a lake district comparable to that of the former East Prussia (now mostly lying in Mazuria, in northeastern Poland). By bringing a bicycle race to the Lausitz region, therefore, I hope to draw some attention to the regeneration of this maligned region as well as to the Sorbs and their history and culture; I'm imagining jerseys in the colours of the Sorbian flag, podium girls in the traditional Sorbian dress, and so on.

Onwards we go, to stage 1.

Stage 1: Görlitz - Bautzen, 190km

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The Lausitz Rundfahrt doesn't have a mountains jersey, though there are a couple of notable climbs on this stage.

We start the race right in the bottom corner of Saxony, in the easternmost town in Germany, Görlitz (Zhorjelc in Upper Sorbian). This is a divided town, with part of it being on the other side of the Neisse, thus constituting the Polish town of Zgorzelec, as the Oder-Neisse Line formally demarcates the border between the two countries. As a result, there is a distinctly Slavic feel to the town, with Sorbian customs meeting Silesian history, both German and Polish. It also has a very pretty centre, with those great cobbled streets that will warn the riders what is to come this week.

The stage route itself spirals in on itself westwards and takes in a large portion of Oberlausitz on its way. The former DDR has, by and large and tragically for the sport of cycling, gone to great lengths to asphalt most of its old Kopfsteinpflasterstraßen, but a number still remain, and a few of these have made their way into today's stage. The first is Muskauer Straße in Niesky, just 20km into the stage. This is not expected to cause any difficulties, however, and for a while the course will be flat as the riders head through some of the lakeland. Most notable here is Bärwalder See, with the tranquility of the lake and the lush greenery that surrounds it broken up by a vision of the area's industrial past. After 56km it's time for more cobbles, this time in Lohsa, a town which is progressively becoming an isthmus in the lakes.

Shortly after this the riders arrive in Hoyerswerda (Wórjejce), one of the main cities of the region. The centre of town allows for more cobbles, with Lange Straße being particularly troublesome in case of bad weather. A few kilometres later there's some less pristine Kopfsteinpflaster to handle in Wittichenau. After this there is a 15km lull where blissful tarmac calms the riders as we approach the halfway point in the stage. When we reach the halfway point, we're in Kamenz (Kamjenc), a picturesque town that bizarrely last saw professional cycling action in 1999, but most of the centre of town is cobbled, and it is the home of a fairly well-known amateur race called the Lausitzer Blutenlauf (the metal-as-hell "Lusatian Blood Race") where riders swoop around the cobbled town. There's also a nice little cobbled hill, which I have obviously stolen for my race. 12 more kilometres of uphill, no longer cobbled, then follows, until a few more hundred metres of stones in Pulsnitz. After this it's rolling terrain, including passing Schloß Rammenau, before we get to Bischofswerda (Biskupicy), where the riders will take a technical, multi-cornered route through the town centre in order to maximise the amount of time spent on the cobbles of the city centre. Most of these are easily manageable even if it rains, so I've thrown in another climb. At this point there are 64km remaining.

The riders continue eastwards until they reach the southern tip of Obergurig. At this point they turn south, and take on Mönchswalder Berg, by far the biggest climbing obstacle today. At 2km long and 8% average, with a maximum of 15%, it is nothing to be sniffed at. The riders crest this for the first time with 42km remaining, and then it is a rolling circuit that takes them into Bautzen (the capital of Lusatia, known as Budyšin to the Sorbs), a picturesque city on the Spree decorated with some impressive medieval castles and towers, where some easy cobbles and a couple of wide curves in the city centre take them to the finishing line, outside the imposing Haus der Sorben, or Serbski Dom. Then, a final 25km circuit takes in a final Kopfsteinpflasterstraße in Obergurig, before taking on Mönchswalder Berg once more, this time cresting with 17km remaining, and returning to Bautzen to finish.

This is not a super-tough cobbled stage, and the one key climb isn't enough to create utter carnage, but there is enough to give attackers plenty of scope to try to make things tough for sprinters here. This makes a nice apéritif for the rest of the race too.

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French National Road Race (Banyuls-sur-Mer)

Located south of Perpignan close to the border of Spain and the coast to the Mediterranean Sea.

Clockwise circuit 15 laps of 15 km (225 km total):
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Main climb (tops at 6.1 km): 3.9 km @ 6.6 %
Little hill (tops at 13.5 km): 0.82 km @ 6.3 %
 
Further with my 2013 tour de France.
The next stages until the second rest day.

Stage 10: Saint-Gildas-des-Bois - Saint-Malo, 193km.
I'll use the same stage as proposed by aso. Crossing Brittanny, probably rolling terrain. I expect a mass sprint.

Stage 11: Avranches - Mont Saint-Michel, 52km
Also a time trial, but I made it longer than aso did. 33km for a flat tt is just ridiculous. Plus, it will compensate the past and future mountain stages.

Stage 12: Fougères - Tours, 218km. Same stage as ASO

Stage 13: Tours - Saint-Amand-Montrond, 173km. Same stage as ASO.

Stage 14: Saint-Pourçain-sur-Sioule - Lyon, 190km.
Rolling stage with a finish on the colline de la Fourvière.

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Stage 15: Givors - Annécy/Le Semnoz, 197km.

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A flat first half of the stage, followed by the climbs to Col de la Crusille (4.4km @ 5.3%), Mont du Chat (11.8km @ 9%), Mont Revard (20.5km @ 5.9%) and the finish at Le Semnoz (20.8km @ 5%). This side of Le Semnoz is definitely easier than the side they'll climb in next year's tour, but I hope this will be compensated by the fact that it is closely linked with Mont du Chat and Mont Revard.

Stage 16: Le Grand Bornand - Alpe d'Huez, 230km. The stage isn't fully shown in the link to the traks4bikers profile, but I made another one:

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So, today the riders will climb:
Col de l'Aravis, from Saint-Jean-de-Sixt: 10.2km @ 5.1%
Col de Forclaz (the one near Albertville): 5.4km @ 8%
Col de la Madeleine, northside: 24.5km @ 6.3%
Col du Télégraphe: 11.8km @ 7.3%
Col du Galibier: 18.1km @ 6.9%
Col de Sarenne: 12.8km @ 7.5%

Without any doubt the queen stage of this tour.
 
Libertine Seguros said:
But... you've only climbed Alpe d'Huez once! How can you have a proper ASO race without climbing one of the overused climbs twice? You've just dropped the ball on the ASO's big selling point of the race :D
He doesn't climb Alpe d'Huez at all :confused: It is Col de Sarenne. (or did I miss something obvious?)
 
Stage 2: Bautzen - Forst im Lausitz, 160km

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The second stage of the Lausitz Rundfahrt is a comparatively short and straightforward trip from Bautzen to the border city of Forst (Baršć in the local Lower Sorbian), crossing from Oberlausitz to Niederlausitz (and therefore from Saxony to Brandenburg). This means a vague sauntering downwards in the early phases of the stage, as Oberlausitz is objectively hillier than its northern neighbour. The early parts of the stage are therefore pretty simple, with the first cobbles being the same stretch in Lohsa that we saw yesterday, before a trip through the lakes, through narrow roads past Speicherbecken Lohsa II and across the Land border into Brandenburg. Next up are some very easy cobbles in the centre of Spremberg (Grodk), before a short trip up the L47 takes us to a killer stretch of Kopfsteinpflaster as the road passes through the village of Bagenz. This pretty village on the shores of the Spremberger Stausee is home to some of the toughest cobbles in the region, large, rough and uncompromising for 1100m. This shouldn't be decisive today, though; there are still 98km remaining.

The majority of the remainder of those kilometres come in the form of 7,5 laps of a 10km circuit in today's stage town, Forst. Forst is a struggling former textile city on the Neiße (and thus, on the German-Polish border) that is the capital of the Spree-Neiße district as well as its largest city. It hosted the national championships ITT in 2001 and 2006 (its larger neighbour, Cottbus, hosted the road race), but since the Brandenburg Rundfahrt went the way of the dinosaurs it has been absent from race calendars at the pro level. It does, however, host the Forst Derny-Rennen, a (surprise) derny race along a 600m course in the city centre chocked full of cobbles. Lots of cobbles. Cobbles everywhere, in fact. Now, obviously, finding 10km worth of consecutive cobbles would be difficult, and 600m is too short for laps at the end of a pro-race for obvious reasons. However, I have done my best to live up to the spirit of the race, nicknamed the "Hölle von Forst" after Roubaix ("The Hell of Forst"). Therefore, there are three stretches of cobbles in my final closing circuit. The first is Keunescher Kirchweg, a kilometre-long street whose final passing will come just 2km from the line. The second is the Innenstadt, where I use the vast majority of the roads from the Hölle von Forst, with a couple of other cobbled roads to link the parts of the circuit to the tarmacked roads on the outside of the centre. The final stretch is the 250m long Töpferstraße. As with yesterday, none of these stretches on the final circuit are super difficult, but there are a few technical corners on the loop, and with the changing surfaces and these technical challenges, if the sprinters (even those cobble-capable ones) want to have their day they will really need to work, as this circuit will give maximum opportunity for attackers to make gains.

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Stage 3: Cottbus - Cottbus, 206km

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The hardest stage of the Lausitz Rundfahrt could also, feasibly, be a pretty useful one-day race in its own right, circling around Niederlausitz for over 200km before returning to the capital of the Lower Lusatians, which they call Chóśebuz. There are a total of fourteen Kopfsteinpflasterstraßen on this route, in addition to one Plattenweg, so riders will need to be tough to survive here. Especially as in large areas of the stage, the establishment of large kolkhozes have robbed the area of anything to break up the winds rolling in along these endless fields, so the wind can undoubtedly play a factor, as can the weather at the time of year the race would be likely to be held.

Although a city of over 100.000 people, Cottbus is a city in decline, suffering from high unemployment in recent times and seeing a 'brain drain' of educated people mostly heading for Berlin and Dresden, the nearest true metropoles. It is not as historic and traditional as Bautzen, nor is its Sorbian identity as strong. However, it is the cultural centre of Lower Sorbian, more isolated and under more threat than Upper Sorbian, but still with its own history. Far fewer young people speak Lower Sorbian than Upper Sorbian, but Chóśebuz can boast bilingual signage throughout the city and a Gymnasium with Dolnoserbski as the main medium of instruction. Its position as the centre of the declining Niedersorbisch language and culture makes it the perfect place to centre our main stage on.

The first part of the stage is heading northwest from Cottbus over normal tarmac. It is some time before we reach our first cobbles, certainly longer than in the preceding two stages, as it is not until 40km have passed that we reach the centre of Lübben (Lubin) and its city centre cobbles. Heading back out of the town takes us onto Cottbuser Straße, a nodal route in the town but also a lengthy stretch of Kopfsteinpflaster. 10km later we reach Lübbenau (Lubnjow), which features Belgian-style concreted roads and more Kopfsteinpflaster on Poststraße, before a bit of respite, then the town centre is one long cobbled road called Ehm-Welk-Straße. The stretches around Lübbenau then lead us into some false uphill flat (barely perceptible) for about 13km, before we head into Calau. Tragically the people of Calau have seen much of their cobbled streets tarmacked recently, but we've taken steps to include Ringstraße on the route, a semicircular road of cobbles that encircles the now-asphalted town centre. At this point the riders can relax with a long stretch of asphalt before the short stretch of stones at Sonnewalde Markt.

Just after the halfway point the riders pass through the pretty Sorbian town of Finsterwalde (Grabin). Here the whole town centre is on easy brick-cobblestones, so to mitigate their relative ease I have included some technical corners in order to extend the length of the sector. The riders get a few kilometres to compose themselves, but the next sector is the first one that could be a real factor in deciding the race. With 80km to go, the riders tackle the 700m of rough, half-repaired cobbles, dirt, grass and rutted pavement that is Sallgast Bahnhofstraße. At the end of the sector there is a sharp right hand bend as well, which could catch people out. However, a full 12km before the next sector means well-organised teams should be able to retain some level of control. Then we head into Senftenberg (Zły Komorow), which has given its name to the Senftenberger See, one of the best-known of the artificial lakes in the Lausitzer Seenland. With just under 70km to go, there are two stretches of Kopfsteinpflaster within Senftenberg. Firstly, the long and straight August-Bebel-Straße, but more importantly the twisty and lengthy Steindamm.

These are followed in short order by the very punishing stretches in the village of Sedlitz, with over 2,5km of cobbles overall as we wind our way through the streets to take in as many as possible. Immediately after leaving the main road we hit Muhlenstraße, which eases the riders into it; the rest of the village's Kopfsteinpflasterstraßen are not so well maintained, rough and potentially slippery if it rains. 60km remain after this, but this stretch from 80km to go to 60km to go is where the key moves ought to be made - several stretches of difficulty here. After this it's narrow roads to try to make things hard for the chase and encourage earlier attacks, as we head along the Sedlitzer See. Here we transition from looking at Lausitz's future to its past... and it's kind of the other way round to how you'd expect as the future is the beautiful lakeland, and the past is the Kraftwerk known as Schwarze Pumpe. This is actually a new addition, set into operation in the late 90s, but it is representative of Lausitz's past as a major lignite producer. Shortly after this we head through Spremberg and its old town as we did yesterday, followed by the short hill and then, with 25km to go, they hit the large, rough cobbles of Bagenz. This 1100m stretch with a couple of tight bends and no respite is where I would expect key moves to be made in the stage, because from here it's the real start of the roll back into Cottbus. With 19km to go there is a stretch of Plattenweg as the riders pass Neuhausen Bahnhof and move into the outskirts of Cottbus itself. There, they have one final stretch of cobbles to face, 900m of messily maintained stones on Ströbitzer Hauptstraße to deal with, which finish with just under 4km to go, so if teams have been able to exert more control than I would like up until this point, this would give one final opportunity for the attackers to get away from the bunch (I think that while the stage may not have everybody finishing solo, we could well have several different groups on the road, and it won't be a group of 70-80 pursuing attackers here) on the fairly simple run-in with only a few corners, the last coming with 600m to go. The finishing straight is in part cobbled, but only in the same way as the Champs-Elysées can be considered 'on cobbles'.

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Stage 4: EuroSpeedway Lausitz - EuroSpeedway Lausitz, 11,0km (ITT)

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Yes, yes, I know, after the mediæval castles of Oberlausitz, and the waterways of the Lausitzer Seenland, this is a pretty unappealing way to finish, heading around a quiet motor racing venue (in typical fashion for oval-racing facilities outside of the USA, there are far more seats than could ever be envisaged filling them), but this is a useful facility to have right there, and it even has cycling pedigree, in two ways. Firstly, it is where Damjan Zabovnik and Francesco Russo have set hour records for streamlined HPVs. Secondly, it is the site of the horrific accident that nearly killed Alessandro Zanardi and left him without his legs, an accident which has led (via a circuitous route) to his double Paralympic gold medals earlier this year.

The Lausitzring consists of two ovals, the main, tri-oval-shaped Lausitzring used for Champ Car racing a few years ago, and the Dekra Test Oval, an elongated oval used for autotesting that has not been used in racing and is therefore best known for the tragic death of former F1 driver and Le Mans winner Michele Alboreto in a testing accident. Within the Lausitzring there are a number of circuit configurations used in DTM, F3 and other series. One of the permutations of the circuit, originally envisaged for the running of an endurance race of several hours in length, combines the longest of these courses with two adjoining strips of tarmac attaching the Lausitzring to the Dekra Test Oval, creating an 11km circuit (they planned to put chicanes into the straights on the Test Oval for safety purposes, like at Le Mans and Daytona). It has never been used in racing. Until now.

Ultimately, with this, what you see is what you get. It's a short ITT, just long enough to settle small gaps in the GC, but not long enough to make it totally decisive and discourage riders from making the other three stages worth it. After all, with a long ITT riders wouldn't dare spend a long time solo or in a small group in the Cottbus stage, but this is short enough that if they were able to get away they could defend their lead in the ITT - it's a bit influenced by De Panne that way, I guess. Either way, this is designed as a short stage race full of narrow roads, exposed countryside, pretty scenery and cobbles - a tune-up race for the spring or a late-season event. Therefore you don't want it to be too long, but plenty tough. Hopefully I've managed that.

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So in these modern days, where we have to humanize the routes and have queen-stages of 150 km, is it possible to create well-designed mountain stages? Yes.

Based on 2013's second mountain stage I have made two changes, though still maintaining the soft-route-cr@p. The stage is 178 km long without any HC mountains, and a peak of 1580 meters.

The first change is a detour from Saint-Béat to Bagnères-de-Luchon, and a change of finishing town (and of course how to get there, which is from the top of Col de Ancizan over Aspin) to Arreau.

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(So little change for such a big difference :eek:)
 
Portugal - Coimbra

I got inspired by Netserk's French RR so I created some National RR and TT courses as well :eek:

Hilly 47 km TT
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RR - 88 km then a ~14 km loop that will be repeated 9 times, total length 221 km
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The loop
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The 3 cat 4 climbs in the loop aren't very challenging (1.9 km @ 5.6%, 3 km @ 4.0% and 1.9 km @ 5.9 %) but should still be hard enough to be decisive
 
España - Granada

55 km TT
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263 km RR very challenging
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1st cat climb is 12 km @ 5.7% it will be interesting to see if the people that get dropped can get back before the start of the 2nd cat climb.

2nd cat climb is 12 km @ 3.9% after that a 10 km descent.