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Polish said:
I agree with you Polish.
There I said it.
Maybe RR did mean to keep the questions private. But, these questions are SO F'ING OBVIOUS that it wouldn't matter what he intended or did. The same or similar questions have been asked multiple times in multiple threads. RR just did a nice job of cleaning them up, arranging, and presenting them.
In other words, RR's intention is irrelevant. The questions have long been public. THAT IS OBVIOUS.
WHAT IS EVEN MORE OBVIOUS IS THE CAMPAIGN TO AVOID ANSWERING THEM.
This includes moronic posts, like yours, trying to 'blame' RR for something.
Hello?
Stupid move Polish.
Much aligned with, and further proof of, the smear campaign to try and change the issue here.
Want to contribute? Get us some answers.
Dave.
Johnalex13 said:
Let's see.
RaceRadio sent some questions to LiveStrong. They 'invited' him to Austin to get the answers while at the same time, strangers started attacking him on the web, some going as far as creating an anti-RR account on twitter. That account is followed by the man himself. Then another wacko, Jamie..., came out of the woodwork and is hassling RR and now TFF. (hassling has involved calling TFF's employment).
Meanwhile, here Polish and Flicker are still up to their old tired tricks of derailing treads.
Did I miss anything?
edited to add: "Lance Armstrong has some seriously deluded fans." by TFF
- Dec 7, 2010
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Johnalex13 said:
Thoughtforfood said:
What, it's not obvious?
I was actually going to do something like that, but I just remembered that I was granted the power of OP on this thread!
I'll try to pull it all together as best as possible and post something in the opener. If anyone wants to include anything in particular, just PM me.
Edit:
I see that Ferminal is a step ahead of me.
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Kennf1 said:
Which is interesting, because in his first book, LA clearly lays the credit for his survival and recovery, at the feet of the doctors and scientists (by way of the chemo, etc) that were responsible for his care. He states this in contrast to any particular god or religious belief (or any other fabricated "hero").jimmypop said:
I don't have the exact quote with me at the moment. In a rare event, I left my pocket copy at home today.
Johnalex13 said:
Some guys tweeted some stuff and think they are important in the world.
Some other guy that used to ride, who thinks he is important in the world as well, tweeted them back, or blocked them, thinking he was important in the world.
Now they...minus the unimportant guy that use to ride a bike...are all in this thread patting themselves on the back on how important they think they are.
Tweet on fellows!!!
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I thought that is what Twitts are for? Twitts are supposed to Tweet and then other Twitts follow those original Tweet's in order to find more Twitts to follow.mikeNphilly said:
@ the Hammer. He said in that bicycling comment (which I will title "factoids") that it is a fact that the livestrong.org charity paid for 500 people from all over TEH GLOBEZ to a Cancer summit.
I remember that our local Doctor Mazzermanrod and RR along with a few other discussed this. It was concluded that,,,,,or I am just ASSuming that livestrong.org did not or could not have done that????? There was someone else that was taking up for livestrong but I have to go back and look up his member name. He had some points but nothing was actually listed in any financials that we have access to that showed livestrong flew all these 500 GLOBALZ peeps to a cancer summit. Note the Hammer also says that LA Homeboy paid his own way.
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I guess I'm not as into arguments and things as some people. I've had various incarnations on twitter. When I was @BloggingLance, and interacted with a lot of people and shared my old blog, I had a stalker. Their sole purpose was to make comments about my tweets, doing an obnoxious play by play. I blocked them, not to keep them from reading me, or commenting, but so I never had to read the comments. There's not much motivation for them when they know that no one is listening.
I was @ContadorFTW for a while, and had obnoxious responses, and threats of things like contacting the State I was getting unemployment benefits from (that was after posting Wheel Gate parts one and two here, and a lot of anti-Lance stuff on twitter). I blocked them, so they could say whatever they wanted, and I'd never see it.
I think I was back to my original account by last summer. I took some heat when someone came up with the pic of Lance standing on his pedals, yelling at Contador, and I circulated to every cycling journo and publication I could find. I even e-mailed it to the two people who did the WSJ article. People tried to harass me about that - a bike shop guy from Missouri, a real estate lawyer from Florida, someone from California who said the Curse Of Juan Pelota was upon me. I blocked them the instant I saw their first comment and that was that.
I never engage trolls here, although some members enjoy the action. But it would be really easy to just block the people who are harassing you and never look to see what they're saying. If someone makes a threat in the forest, and you don't go looking for it, it's not even a threat.
I haven't checked my @replies since the Time Trial at last year's Tour. If people mentioned my account, or responded to something I said, I didn't see it unless I follow them back. Someone asked me about a hard to follow conversation between me and a journalist I used to respect, and I told them there was no conversation, I had stopped following that person months before. I finally just removed them.
The point to all that is that this can all end today if you guys want. Block the accounts so that they don't show up when you check your @replies, and have the self-discipline to not go read what they might say. Then they become just a sad little group of people talking trash out of hearing.
For people who've become anti-Twitter from all of this, there are a lot of enjoyable and even beneficial uses. I saw a news story earlier about a boy who went missing in Saudi Arabia, and he was found three hours later due to twitter posts with his picture. Cheers
I was @ContadorFTW for a while, and had obnoxious responses, and threats of things like contacting the State I was getting unemployment benefits from (that was after posting Wheel Gate parts one and two here, and a lot of anti-Lance stuff on twitter). I blocked them, so they could say whatever they wanted, and I'd never see it.
I think I was back to my original account by last summer. I took some heat when someone came up with the pic of Lance standing on his pedals, yelling at Contador, and I circulated to every cycling journo and publication I could find. I even e-mailed it to the two people who did the WSJ article. People tried to harass me about that - a bike shop guy from Missouri, a real estate lawyer from Florida, someone from California who said the Curse Of Juan Pelota was upon me. I blocked them the instant I saw their first comment and that was that.
I never engage trolls here, although some members enjoy the action. But it would be really easy to just block the people who are harassing you and never look to see what they're saying. If someone makes a threat in the forest, and you don't go looking for it, it's not even a threat.
I haven't checked my @replies since the Time Trial at last year's Tour. If people mentioned my account, or responded to something I said, I didn't see it unless I follow them back. Someone asked me about a hard to follow conversation between me and a journalist I used to respect, and I told them there was no conversation, I had stopped following that person months before. I finally just removed them.
The point to all that is that this can all end today if you guys want. Block the accounts so that they don't show up when you check your @replies, and have the self-discipline to not go read what they might say. Then they become just a sad little group of people talking trash out of hearing.
For people who've become anti-Twitter from all of this, there are a lot of enjoyable and even beneficial uses. I saw a news story earlier about a boy who went missing in Saudi Arabia, and he was found three hours later due to twitter posts with his picture. Cheers
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JRTinMA said:
Eye of the tiger man, eye of the tiger. (this is an expression me and a friend used to use when we saw things in the same demented sort of way.)
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theswordsman said:
That's a sound bit of advice, S. There seems to be enough strife and such in the world, if we can mask out any of it it means a little more peace.
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I thought about ignoring Polish's question because, like most of his posts, it is an attempt to derail a thread....but here it goes.
First, my first interaction with them came almost a month ago. I said that it was not my intention to make the failed exchange of information public and that is what I had done, until they went after me. By that time I had written off the engagement as a lesson learned. If they had given me a detailed response I likely would have shared it, even if it contradicted the prevailing opinion. Contrary to the spin of the trolls I am more interested in facts, I do not have an agenda.
My goal with my questions was to get facts. There is so much disinformation that flies around Armstrong, and the sport, that I always try to make sure that what I write is correct. Unlike our local trolls I see no value in spreading disinformation and I wanted to insure that if I wrote something about Livestrong that it was correct.
Like many I have long been puzzled by the foundation. My best friend wears two yellow wristbands (He has had cancer twice) yet he dislikes Armstrong and thinks the foundation is a scam. Many people have told me that livestrong helped them, but when I asked how the response is usually a blank stare and the word "Hope" is mumbled. I went on their site and saw little. Most info that is created by other sites and "Reskined" with Livestrong Yellow. It is really hard to see where the $40 million is going.
Looking at the numbers so many things jump out at you. You hear the rumors about jets, guaranteeing loans and Bazzaarvoice. When you look at the website traffic figures they make no sense when couple with the advertising expenditures. You see Livestrong at big events, like the ToC, but it seems like their main focus is selling T-Shirts and raising awareness of Lance.
When I looked at their corporate structure it makes no sense, with multiple entities, events, merchandise, and the foundation. The questions are endless.
Believe it or not I was actually hopeful that they would respond with real information. That they would clarify any misconceptions and I would have no reason to bring up Livestrong again.....instead they did the exact opposite and acted like someone with a lot to hide.
First, my first interaction with them came almost a month ago. I said that it was not my intention to make the failed exchange of information public and that is what I had done, until they went after me. By that time I had written off the engagement as a lesson learned. If they had given me a detailed response I likely would have shared it, even if it contradicted the prevailing opinion. Contrary to the spin of the trolls I am more interested in facts, I do not have an agenda.
My goal with my questions was to get facts. There is so much disinformation that flies around Armstrong, and the sport, that I always try to make sure that what I write is correct. Unlike our local trolls I see no value in spreading disinformation and I wanted to insure that if I wrote something about Livestrong that it was correct.
Like many I have long been puzzled by the foundation. My best friend wears two yellow wristbands (He has had cancer twice) yet he dislikes Armstrong and thinks the foundation is a scam. Many people have told me that livestrong helped them, but when I asked how the response is usually a blank stare and the word "Hope" is mumbled. I went on their site and saw little. Most info that is created by other sites and "Reskined" with Livestrong Yellow. It is really hard to see where the $40 million is going.
Looking at the numbers so many things jump out at you. You hear the rumors about jets, guaranteeing loans and Bazzaarvoice. When you look at the website traffic figures they make no sense when couple with the advertising expenditures. You see Livestrong at big events, like the ToC, but it seems like their main focus is selling T-Shirts and raising awareness of Lance.
When I looked at their corporate structure it makes no sense, with multiple entities, events, merchandise, and the foundation. The questions are endless.
Believe it or not I was actually hopeful that they would respond with real information. That they would clarify any misconceptions and I would have no reason to bring up Livestrong again.....instead they did the exact opposite and acted like someone with a lot to hide.
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Oh, in case everyone has not noticed antiraceradio = BPC.
Funny how fast half of Livestrong and Wonderboy himself followed our local troll.
Funny how fast half of Livestrong and Wonderboy himself followed our local troll.
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mr. tibbs said:
Just reading through this thread... tried to open this link and it was blocked by my antivirus - apparently contains a trojan horse.
Race Radio said:
With the greatest of respect, I find it extremely unlikely you were only interested in getting the "facts". It's no secret that you're probably one of the most famous anti Armstrong trolls on the internet, using this forum and twitter with the openly declared goal of trying to ruin the guys professional and personal reputation and get him sent to jail if possible. You've got quite a few people following you on twitter precisely because you're known to spread dirt about the man, whether it be tales of "hookers and blow" or rumors about the latest person who has apparently told the feds everything.
In a way it's surprising you haven't got more comeback than you have until now. If I was Armstrong I'd be totally mad about someone who wakes up everyday with the goal of ruining my life.
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Kapelmuur said:
There's a certain American TdF winner who feels that same way about Pharmstrong.
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