Race Radio, anti-RR, Polish and Twitter Campaigns

[JMBeaushrimp]

Twitter. Hence it's devolution into selfish irrelevancy...

 

[Polish]

It appears the talking points for my questions are to ignore all of them and focus on beer, because everyone loves beer.

Using the "You must love beer" gambit?
Really now...

And what is this "talking points" obsession?
RR, YOU are the one who emailed/posted/reposted/rereposted YOUR concerns about Michelob Ultra blah blah blah.

So RR, you have posted/tweeted that you enjoy pounding down a few drinks every now and then - how do you think Livestrong should respond to your beer question?

Should they take the Carrie Nation / Elliot Ness Prohibition Stance?
Or maybe instead, that it is ok for many people to drink in moderation?
What is your stance?

But lets face it RR (it's obvious) your main concern is that Lance makes lots of money from a Beer Sponsorship. That's really the issue here isn't it?
Don't lie....

 

[Hugh Januss]

But lets face it RR (it's obvious) your main concern is that Lance makes lots of money from a Beer Sponsorship. That's really the issue here isn't it?
Don't lie....

Oh you are a quick one. Of course that is the issue. Lance the staunch cancer fighter is willing to promote known cancer causing substances as long as he can make a tidy profit from it.
Nobody cares if he drinks it or if I do (wouldn't drink that **** water with your lips) or you do or RR does, it is the fact that he enriches himself by promoting cancer causing things.
Does that make any sense to you, genius boy?

 

[patricknd]

wait, what is this thread about ?

nobody knows

 

[frenchfry]

It appears the talking points for my questions are to ignore all of them and focus on beer, because everyone loves beer.

Indeed, I am waiting for scott socal's take on the subject before forming an opinion.

 

[Deagol]

Not getting involved in this thread, but have read every post…
I showed the Bicycling article to a friend who does not follow cycling along with the list of RR’s questions for Livestrong. He & his fiancé were somehow involved in a local Livestrong event maybe a year ago. He asked what LS’s answer was and I directed him to Twitter (which I will never get sucked into). I think that they may no longer wish to be associated with the organization, just based on the infrequent information that I have been passing along to him.

I believe that these people on “Lance’s side” are their own worst enemies and are doing themselves a great disfavor by conducting themselves the way they have been so far. Most people are not psychotic and can see through the smoke-screening and BS being put forth in cyberspace.

As far as LA goes, the one who really helped me make up my mind about which side of the fence I am on now was him. Take that however you like it….

I am reminded of the phrase: “it is better to keep your mouth shut and let everyone think you are a fool, then to open your mouth and prove it” , except in this case, you could also substitute for “fool” the following words: cheat, liar, jerk, fraud, bully, egomaniac, …..

 

[this_is_edie]

Oh you are a quick one. Of course that is the issue. Lance the staunch cancer fighter is willing to promote known cancer causing substances as long as he can make a tidy profit from it.
Nobody cares if he drinks it or if I do (wouldn't drink that **** water with your lips) or you do or RR does, it is the fact that he enriches himself by promoting cancer causing things.
Does that make any sense to you, genius boy?

why do you bother? really, he's not interested in a discussion just derailing the tread which he almost did once again.

 

[Polish]

Indeed, I am waiting for scott socal's take on the subject before forming an opinion.

Maybe scott can explain what this "Free Beer Movement" is about.
Whatever it is, RR will NOT be happy grrrrr.

We asked Doug if Livestrong Foundation founder Lance Armstrong was a big soccer fan.

Ulman revealed, "Lance is not historically a soccer fan. He didn’t grow up with the game. He trained in Europe for six months out of the year (for the Tour and other races) so he was surrounded by it. He says he’s eager to go to the games."

We asked if we could get Ulman's commitment to follow the "free beer philosophy" and try and win Armstrong over to soccer through the power of a free beer.

He said, "We’ll make that happen.”

So there you have it. Lance Armstrong, future Free Beer Movement convert.

http://www.thefreebeermovement.com/2011/04/sporting-way-is-giving-way-interview.html
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[MarkvW]

my turning point

Not getting involved in this thread, but have read every post…
I showed the Bicycling article to a friend who does not follow cycling along with the list of RR’s questions for Livestrong. He & his fiancé were somehow involved in a local Livestrong event maybe a year ago. He asked what LS’s answer was and I directed him to Twitter (which I will never get sucked into). I think that they may no longer wish to be associated with the organization, just based on the infrequent information that I have been passing along to him.

I believe that these people on “Lance’s side” are their own worst enemies and are doing themselves a great disfavor by conducting themselves the way they have been so far. Most people are not psychotic and can see through the smoke-screening and BS being put forth in cyberspace.

As far as LA goes, the one who really helped me make up my mind about which side of the fence I am on now was him. Take that however you like it….

I am reminded of the phrase: “it is better to keep your mouth shut and let everyone think you are a fool, then to open your mouth and prove it” , except in this case, you could also substitute for “fool” the following words: cheat, liar, jerk, fraud, bully, egomaniac, …..

I wondered until the Simeoni incident. Then, I knew.

 

[JMBeaushrimp]

Alright. Now that the beer angle has officially been beaten to death (for the love of Jesus, I hope it has), how about those legitimate questions?

I really hate to try to drag this inbred *** goat-show back to topic, but cummon guys!

To the LA supporters: If it's all good, get your overlords to answer the simple questions.

To the rest of reality: Everything causes cancer.

Sweet dancing pilgrims! How about we try to actually look at what caused this avalanche of avarice?

RR asked some questions. Then the world imploded. How about someone addresses the questions? Hopefully without another debacle centred around about who hates more how much and for what reason.

Christ, this is like trying to look after a kindergarten for special kids on coke...

 

[Granville57]

Slowly steering the ship back...

At the risk of keeping this from winning Strangest Thread of the Year Award...

Here's something that is slightly back on topic:

Anyone else notice that the bicycling.com article that spawned this deranged expedition has practically buried the controversial Lance Armstrong's Endgame story?

I thought they had removed it all together but it is there. It's a far cry from obvious, however.

http://www.bicycling.com/

 

[JMBeaushrimp]

Quick on the graphics, eh? And just when I was missing BB's input...

I recognize that mountain. I think I live just below it. Good thing it's spring...

 

[Granville57]

Quick on the graphics, eh? And just when I was missing BB's input...

Hey, back on topic!

 

[JMBeaushrimp]

Beer de beer de de. Mountain de mountain de de. Pilgrims de de de...

There is no topic. That's why I'm trying to hold everyone to it.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

Hey, back on topic!

Hey I do not want to attack you or nothing but your like an ex-wife or something. NAG NAG NAG.

 

[Granville57]

Hey I do not want to attack you or nothing but your like an ex-wife or something. NAG NAG NAG.

How would YOU feel?

 

[Anonymous]

I wondered until the Simeoni incident. Then, I knew.

The watershed moment for many. I remember watching it and thinking that was the action of a man trying to forcibly hide something. It actually seemed logical after reading "It's not about the bike." Many people find ("found" for many others) that book inspiring. I found it to be the ruminations of a narcissist who believes in the power if his thoughts and personality a little too much. He says he credits other people for helping him beat cancer, but mostly, he appears to believe it has more to do with some inner strength he possesses that is superior to even cancer. The problem is that he is just lucky. I have known much better people, with much more character and inner strength who didn't make it.

He is a pathetic, self-absorbed bully who created an empire based on cult of personality. His most vociferously defensive minions are an even sadder lot because they need a hero to live their vision of themselves through their association with him. They consider themselves to be like him in strength and personal attributes, and therefore a part of him. I find the whole thing tragic because it is a guilded empire that siphons off money and attention from organizations and people who would be much better stewards of such things.

 

[flicker]

The watershed moment for many. I remember watching it and thinking that was the action of a man trying to forcibly hide something. It actually seemed logical after reading "It's not about the bike." Many people find ("found" for many others) that book inspiring. I found it to be the ruminations of a narcissist who believes in the power if his thoughts and personality a little too much. He says he credits other people for helping him beat cancer, but mostly, he appears to believe it has more to do with some inner strength he possesses that is superior to even cancer. The problem is that he is just lucky. I have known much better people, with much more character and inner strength who didn't make it.

He is a pathetic, self-absorbed bully who created an empire based on cult of personality. His most vociferously defensive minions are an even sadder lot because they need a hero to live their vision of themselves through their association with him. They consider themselves to be like him in strength and personal attributes, and therefore a part of him. I find the whole thing tragic because it is a guilded empire that siphons off money and attention from organizations and people who would be much better stewards of such things.

Yes, be associated with Lance makes us stronger, more confident, healthier and feeling better about ourselves.. Pretty scary isn't it.

 

[skippythepinhead]

Not scary, just sort of...sad.

 

[Granville57]

Many people find ("found" for many others) that book inspiring.

I have a friend that read it out of simple curiosity. She knows nothing about Lance, cycling, or sports in general.

Her take on it was, "God, throughout the book Lance keeps saying how cancer made him a 'better person.' If that's true, then I can only imagine what a complete and total a-hole he was before that."

Her words, not mine.

 

[Dallas_]

Comedy plus

Jamie Lindsay rants on Facebook.

"the trademark of the out of control FDA investigator Jeffy Novitsky"

http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=158278494221991

Seriously, this Jamie dude is well overdue for colon therapy.
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[andy1234]

How do you guys raise the strength to bring up the same opinions time and time and time again? Its not like you are changing hearts and minds in here.

It reminds me of that bar in The Simpsons, "T.G.I. McScratchy's", where its new years eve every hour......

 

[Benotti69]

How do you guys raise the strength to bring up the same opinions time and time and time again? Its not like you are changing hearts and minds in here.

It reminds me of that bar in The Simpsons, "T.G.I. McScratchy's", where its new years eve every hour......

to keep disillusioned fanboys like you entertained

It actually is a simple thread about someone asking a so called cancer 'charity' some simple questions and getting nothing but abuse back instead of simple informative answers. If you can't see that and it doesn't concern you why post in here criticising it or are you again trying to derail it in favour of wonderboy?

 

[Anonymous]

Yes, be associated with Lance makes us stronger, more confident, healthier and feeling better about ourselves.. Pretty scary isn't it.

No, it's sad. To live vicariously through the exploits and accomplishments of other people is a pretty shallow existence. To then adopt his personality so that you too appear to have a facade of greatness is even sadder. I just hope most of you don't also go the hookers and blow route as well.

 

[Berzin]

I have a question-why are we collectively empowering the lunatic fringe with this thread?

Page after page of this stuff is a bit much already. I feel like we're dissecting the same cadaver over and over again.

Race Radio made his situation public. It is obvious he's not going to get his questions answered unless he shows up in Austin in person.

Yes, it sounds peculiar for a charity organization to not publicly answer questions about their financial and other dealings, and even more peculiar that such an organization would be tooting HgH on their website, or that their figurehead is paid to sponsor an unfortunate brand of beer, the last two items a seemingly hypocritical contradiction on their alleged anti-cancer stance.

But we have stepped out of bounds with comments about guys like Lindsay. He is inconsequential to any of this, and all we are doing is giving him and the other Armstrong Branch Davidians a reason to get up in the morning.

Lindsay is like Snooki from "Jersey Shore", who despite being a total social *** is comforted by the thought that when she gets home she has her stuffed crocodile to console her. Armstrong is Lindsay's only link to reality. Take away his man-crush and the myth that he's bought into and we may have to put him on suicide watch.

And all this Twitter nonsense, who cares? The only thing that matters isn't who is following who on that site, but if any Livestrong employee has addressed any of Race Radio's questions.

They can say and do what they want over at Livestrong. All this latest episode illustrates is how unrepentant they are about losing credibility as an organization.

Answering the questions is all that matters. Lindsay isn't a part of any of this, yet I can see him in front of his computer happy as a clam that he has been given a life on the internet.

Isn't it bad enough we have trolls on this site that people keep feeding?

Come on, guys. We're better than this.