Race Radio, anti-RR, Polish and Twitter Campaigns

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Cloxxki said:
Did I get it wrong? ARR is not a satire account to support RR agenda by echoing LieStrong's lamest proofs and talking points? ARR is a legit pro-LA account?

Now you've got me confused. :confused:
I thought you were somehow onboard with A-RR but that was in direct contrast to your posts here. And then this comment was even more confusing to me:
Cloxxki said:
And doing a great job, for the same cause, from a different angle.

So, yes, I think you got it wrong.
Right? :D
 

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BTW, my twitter name is "PPolish"

No, not because I stutter or because I'm obsessed with PP.
It is just because the name "Polish" was already twitter taken.

Please note that I block all "followers" that are not Lance or a Friend of Lance.
Bono could follow if he likes. flicker too of course.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltPvWcYv4yk
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I haven't really followed this whole Armstrong thing the last couple months, what exactly did Race Radio do or say that would make him "deserving" of so much attention from Armstrong himself apparently? Or is Armstrong just going psycho in general?
 
Granville57 said:
Now you've got me confused. :confused:
I thought you were somehow onboard with A-RR but that was in direct contrast to your posts here. And then this comment was even more confusing to me:


So, yes, I think you got it wrong.
Right? :D

I've been known to defend my own agenda by playing devil's adviocate. A bit of a stupid devil's advocate. Some arguments can seem strong to the uninformed, but laughable for insiders, or those prepared to think that one step further.
Glancing the ARR account, my first impression was that it was run by a RR fan, just using the pathetic Liestrong talking points. To get the attention of the fanboys (sing their gospel, and they'll come to listen), win their souls, and oh well, you can fill in the rest.

It seems inefficient and stupid, even for the Texas gang, to set up an anti-RR account, and not come up with better tweets. All you're doing it getting 2 gazillion cancer haters to check our RR's account, see what he has to say. Even the deafest of fanboys have heard, and the blindest have felt, rumors about some daredevils prepared to take a stand against his untouchable holiness. And even one or two will have noticed he's not even all that nice a person.
Anyway, what happened to ignoring enimies which are supioriorly informed, and superior at expressing themselves? If this really is a Pro-lie deal, it's indeed full ***.
I'm sad, I thought I was going to have some good laughs.

Landis has been promoting doping debate and legal proceedings to an art form, many wannabe's are hooking on. They can smell a future winner, and are choosing teams. Heck, Landis is the first cigar smoker, or yank for that matter, that I'd serious love to hang out with! Let's just hope the entertainment will not take away from the content.
 
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spalco said:
I haven't really followed this whole Armstrong thing the last couple months, what exactly did Race Radio do or say that would make him "deserving" of so much attention from Armstrong himself apparently? Or is Armstrong just going psycho in general?

I noticed that a few Livestrong executives were following me on Twitter. I asked them if I could ask them some questions, they said yes and gave me the email of their lead spokesperson. I sent her the following questions via email.

Their response was to tell me they could only answer them if I flew to Austin and met them in Austin. They then launched an internet smear campaign against me. Perhaps the most entertaining part of this is how they are now claiming they have answered my questions. They have not answered anything, instead started a smear campaign designed to deflect from my questions.

So there is no confusion this is what I wrote. I had no intention of making this public and did not do so until a large group of them started attacking me on Twitter.


Race Radio said:
Thank you for offering to answer some of my questions.

Financial

Has the Foundation, or its related entities, loaned, co-signed, or otherwise guaranteeing a purchase or investment of a board member, principal, officer or related entity/person?

Livestrong has a number of financial/investment professional on its board. Has the foundation ever invested foundation funds with a principal, board member, officer, or related entity? If yes what was the performance of those investments?

What is the financial performance of the Foundation's general fund over the last 3 years?

Travel expenses
The 2009 travel expenses for Livestrong total almost $2 million ($1,922,995). This is very high for a charity the size of Livestrong. For comparison, the National Cancer Coalition, with 5 times as much money raised, only claimed $108,559 in travel expenses. Livestrong does many events so I looked at the travel costs of a cancer charity that also does many events, Susan G Koman. They had travel costs that were about 2 times that of Livestrong ($4,260,354) but their revenue was 10 times as much ($298,685,007)

Does the foundation, or related entities, ever pay for private plane travel for any of its officers, principals, or board members?

Does the foundation, or related entities, ever pay for any private plane related costs, i.e. fuel, landing costs, hanger fees, maintenance, pilot salaries, charter etc?

Does the Foundation have a written travel policy covering the types and pricing of accommodations and transportation used while traveling? Are there ever exceptions to these policies?

Livestrong U23 cycling team

What is the financial relationship between the foundation and the Livestrong U23 cycling team?

Does the team receive a financial contribution from the Foundation?

If yes how large is the contribution and where does this expense fall on the balance sheet? Would it be advertising or a program cost?

Advertising
For 2009 Livestorng spent $4,000,000 on advertising. I would expect that advertising is an important vehicle for a foundation like Livestrong whose mission is awareness. I would expect that the goal would be to drive people to Livestrong’s primary education source, it’s website.

According to Alexa traffic to the For Profit .com is exploding, while the foundations traffic is flat.
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Livestrong spent $6,500,000 on advertising in the past 2 years. What is the primary goal of this advertising?

What are the measureables of Livestrong’s advertising spend?

What have been the top 10 advertising campaigns, based on financial investment, for Livestrong over the past 3 years?

What is the currently spend with related companies? For example http://www.bazaarvoice.com/ a company funded by Livestrong board members. What is Livestrong's, or related entities, annual spend with Bazaar Voice?

Corporate structure

Livestrong has what could be seen as a confusing corporate structure. Why is the foundation split into separate arms, such as for merchandise and for events? Most experts say there is no need to do this. Some Universities are non-profits and they can sell t-shirts and host events. The most obvious reason is this structure designed to consolidate the revenue in one arm and split the expenses among several, giving a better rating on charity ranking sites . Given that two of the separate arms (LAF merchandise and LAF events) essentially give all their money to the main arm (LAF) would the performance of the charity be more accurately reflected if there was only one entity?

Promotion of cancer causing products

Alcohol
Alcohol consumption has been linked with multiple types of cancer: mouth cancer, pharyngeal cancer, oesophageal cancer, laryngeal cancer, breast cancer, bowel cancer and liver cancer. A global study found that 3.6% of all cancer cases worldwide are caused by drinking alcohol, resulting in 3.5% of all global cancer deaths. For both men and women, the consumption of two or more drinks daily increases the risk of pancreatic cancer by 22%.Even Moderate drinker are at risk, they were 67% more likely to get stomach cancer.

Given Livestrong stated goal is to raise awareness of the disease is there concern within the foundation that it's chief spokesperson is also the paid spokesperson for a product show to increase cancer risk?

HGH
Recently there has been much in the press about the significant cancer risks of HGH. It is surprising that much of the advertising on livestrong.com is for"Doctors" who push HGH "Cures".

Is the foundation concerned about the conflict of promoting products that could significantly increase the likelihood of Cancer while trying to raise awareness of it?

Thank you for your time. Iet me know if you have any questions and I look forward to your input.
 
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Surely some real journalists must have seen the exchange, which appears on the ARR side to be poorly planned and executed. There is a story here! I have suggested to several who I have spoken to that alot is going on in this very forum. As a former insider into all things Armstrong, I am still amazed by the level of knowledge that RR shows. This has not gone unnoticed by legions of followers, hired legal thugs and old Uniball himself (Hey Amigo!).
All that said, if that Flabby Yanni guy and his ilk are all that smart, they'd shut ARR down now. It looks bad from this angle, boys. Besides you're feeding the fire. The Truth burns brighter by the minute.
But, hey! I'll bet you're not that smart.
I wonder if that tall, bald-headed guy with a badge is following all of this...

Granville57 said:
I think you may have confused "following" with "followed by."
I don't see any of the guys you mention on ARR's followers list.

The direct taunts are getting (not so) cute:
http://twitter.com/Antiraceradio/status/54396374514544640
 
A charitable cause is supposed to be for the betterment of something.

For Liestrong, the contrast between the high and noble road, and the low road is increasingly striking.

Dropping to such a level is a tactic of the scumbag. Were this a publicly traded company, the SEC would be all over ARR. Moreover, the followers are clearly 'aiding and abetting' a targeted misinformation campaign.

spalco said:
... is Armstrong just going psycho in general

Already there?

Cloxxki said:
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It seems inefficient and stupid, even for the Texas gang, to set up an anti-RR account

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If this really is a Pro-lie deal, it's indeed full ***.

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Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. In this case, it is what it is. Full *** has it.

Race Radio said:
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They then launched an internet smear campaign against me. Perhaps the most entertaining part of this is how they are now claiming they have answered my questions. They have not answered anything, instead started a smear campaign designed to deflect from my questions.

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Fear and insecurity. What are they afraid of, and why are they so insecure? (these questions are redundant as they are answered by their action)

Mrs John Murphy said:
I see that the followers include Liggett, Sherwen, Horner etc. Nice to see they approve of harrassment.

And, now - finally - we have the confirmation of who is on that road.

Thanks for fostering and promoting the lies, fellas. Nice of you to confirm it for us.

Dave.
 
D-Queued said:
A charitable cause is supposed to be for the betterment of something.

For Liestrong, the contrast between the high and noble road, and the low road is increasingly striking.

Dropping to such a level is a tactic of the scumbag. Were this a publicly traded company, the SEC would be all over ARR. Moreover, the followers are clearly 'aiding and abetting' a targeted misinformation campaign.



Already there?



Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. In this case, it is what it is. Full *** has it.



Fear and insecurity. What are they afraid of, and why are they so insecure? (these questions are redundant as they are answered by their action)



And, now - finally - we have the confirmation of who is on that road.

Thanks for fostering and promoting the lies, fellas. Nice of you to confirm it for us.

Dave.

No, as has been pointed out, John Murphy got mixed up with following and followers.

However they're are some very interesting characters on that followers list. Alot of livestrong higher ups.
 
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In an equally bizarre twist, Lance has unblocked me on twitter. :eek:


So I blocked him :D
 
TexPat said:
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I wonder if that tall, bald-headed guy with a badge is following all of this...

Some forumites that have participated elsewhere will recall that electronic forum records (on another forum) were subpoened during the Floyd trial.

You put it on the web, and it is there forever.

Dave.
 
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well if wonderboy and gang are reduced to this kind of behaviour i dont think the livewrong thing is gonna last:)
 
Digger said:
No, as has been pointed out, John Murphy got mixed up with following and followers.

However they're are some very interesting characters on that followers list. Alot of livestrong higher ups.

Thanks for clarifying.

Trying to win them over to the dark side? Or endorsing them for already being 'aligned'?

As far as the Livestrong higher ups go, are they seeking safety in numbers? Hey, if we all agree to it then it must be ok? (e.g. Bay of Pigs fiasco - the case study "story of mismanagement and overconfidence".)

An opinion is not necessarily correct because someone is willing to die for it. Oscar Wilde

Dave.
 
Aug 13, 2009
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Wonder if smear campaigns full under the same part of "Program expenses" as Jet Fuel and trips to the Yellow Rose?
 
May 13, 2009
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Moose McKnuckles said:
Count me in as fully supporting Race Radio. Armstrong and his groupies are the cancer and the maggots feeding on this sport.

That's how I see it, too.

Race Radio has a list of good questions. I'd like to see them answered.