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Retirement couldn't keep Meisen from winning in Germany. He isn't made of porcelain.

Hmm... he appears to be doing retirement slightly... wrong...

In Denmark, Weis won for the 3rd year in a row.
Fini was 2nd and Groenendaal 3rd.

Lisbygd won the women's race ahead of Foldager and Splittorf.
 
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Anna Flynn won the womens UK, Cams now a 4x champ, shame about the pay wall might have been fun to watch.
Unfortunately not, other than all mens race slipping and sliding down a muddy bank which was amusing, the coverage was awful. To be fair it was mainly due to the wind, but only one camera working and a commentator who had very limited knowledge of what was happening.
I think I enjoyed lasts years coverage with a mobile phone better, at least the spectator commentating understood what was happening.
Spend your £3 on something worthwhile.

Edit: now free on youtube.
 
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I did see there was a spectator live streaming again, not the same one as last year, but the course looked too spread out for them in the one spot to be able to do much but keep talking about the weather and identify a few riders as they passed, and I wouldnt bother with the £3 official version as its almost rewarding bad behaviour by the governing body
 
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Just out of curiosity; when is the Australian National Championships?
They just had their road national championships, I don't suppose they also had their CX national championships at the same time...
 
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Just out of curiosity; when is the Australian National Championships?
They just had their road national championships, I don't suppose they also had their CX national championships at the same time...

Australia and New Zealand held their championships on the 16th and 31st of August respectively.
 

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Really exciting men's race for the Belgian title. Nys the deserved champion. And yes his cautious tactics at the end were very cold-blooded, but a strong Verstrynghe made it more nervewrecking than anyone expected. Kudos to them both.

Maybe Moor's handlers (S. Nys?) thought she had a good chance to take the jersey: the little mud flower slid out three (or four?) times and still finished just 17 seconds behind MNR.
It's a rule. Anyone with a WT-contract can't compete in U23 nationals. So even at 18 she wasn't able to claim that title, since she already was a part of Lidl-Trek. Shame, in my opinion. In the world cup and world championship races, it's different.

Also... does 'Schoeshitter' mean what I think it means?
Her name is Shanyl De Schoesitter, which probably derives from an old word for 'shoemaker'. So to answer your question: no.
 
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Dutch women's race and Belgian men's race should both be interesting.
Turns out the Dutch women's race actually wasn't that interesting, it was already decided after two laps or so :) Brand not her usual self, and Puck very much her usual self with a mistake that took her out of contention. That left Alvarado to pick up the prize.

The men's race was better, maybe mostly because the course didn't particularly suit Del Grosso, and it did suit Ronhaar and Van der Haar. On the other hand, Del Grosso made a few mistakes, he even crashed, and he still won, so how close was it really.

Great racing in tricky conditions , Dutch men's race was also good but why did there appear to be so few spectators.
I see so many more at World Cup , Superprestige events.
Cyclocross really isn't as big in the Netherlands as some people seem to think. At the Worlds it will probably be different, because MVDP will be there, and it's just across the Belgian-Dutch border.
 
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Great racing in tricky conditions , Dutch men's race was also good but why did there appear to be so few spectators.
I see so many more at World Cup , Superprestige events.
I thought the same about the Belgian NC crowds--small compared to the throngs at some of the races over New Year's
 
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Yay Ceylin!
I just watched a recording of the Dutch Women NK.
(I couldn't follow the dutch commentators much)

What was wrong with Brand?
She seemed to take it easy - doing the minimum to extend her podium record.
Was she ill?
Was the course with that mud wall climb so unsuited to her?
It is not a good time to lose your form - in the run up to the Worlds.
 
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Yay Ceylin!
I just watched a recording of the Dutch Women NK.
(I couldn't follow the dutch commentators much)

What was wrong with Brand?
She seemed to take it easy - doing the minimum to extend her podium record.
Was she ill?
Was the course with that mud wall climb so unsuited to her?
It is not a good time to lose your form - in the run up to the Worlds.
Training through Nationals to be 100% for Worlds?
 
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Good Men's racing in Belgium and an interesting one in the Netherlands.

Very questionable tactics from Pim that may have cost the team the title. When del Grosso made it back after his crash, Pim sat up in the finishing straight and let del Grosso take the lead. On a course with little opportunity to pass, the best tactic seemed to be to lead from the front and control the pace and rhythm. Pim let del Grosso lead the next lap and he rode away. If Pim had stayed in front he could have slowed things down and even let van der Haar catch back on. Maybe del Grosso was strong enough to win, but Lars looked incredible the last two laps and if he had used that strength attacking instead of chasing, maybe he wins?
 
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Good Men's racing in Belgium and an interesting one in the Netherlands.

Very questionable tactics from Pim that may have cost the team the title. When del Grosso made it back after his crash, Pim sat up in the finishing straight and let del Grosso take the lead. On a course with little opportunity to pass, the best tactic seemed to be to lead from the front and control the pace and rhythm. Pim let del Grosso lead the next lap and he rode away. If Pim had stayed in front he could have slowed things down and even let van der Haar catch back on. Maybe del Grosso was strong enough to win, but Lars looked incredible the last two laps and if he had used that strength attacking instead of chasing, maybe he wins?
It’s Cyclocross, not road racing - and Nationals are meant to be raced one v one, not as teams.
 
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It’s Cyclocross, not road racing - and Nationals are meant to be raced one v one, not as teams.
Pim also threw away his chance of winning. I race as a low level amateur and know that leading on a technical course is the best tactic when you are not the strongest rider. It reduces the amount of hard efforts or technical issues you may face. That course maybe had 2-3 spots where del Gross could pass and Pim only needed to defend those area. Instead he let the better rider in front and watched del Grosso quickly ride away.
 
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Good Men's racing in Belgium and an interesting one in the Netherlands.

Very questionable tactics from Pim that may have cost the team the title. When del Grosso made it back after his crash, Pim sat up in the finishing straight and let del Grosso take the lead. On a course with little opportunity to pass, the best tactic seemed to be to lead from the front and control the pace and rhythm. Pim let del Grosso lead the next lap and he rode away. If Pim had stayed in front he could have slowed things down and even let van der Haar catch back on. Maybe del Grosso was strong enough to win, but Lars looked incredible the last two laps and if he had used that strength attacking instead of chasing, maybe he wins?
Instead of sitting up, you wanted Ronhaar to ride full gas with Del Grosso on his wheel?! How would that help his team.
 
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Instead of sitting up, you wanted Ronhaar to ride full gas with Del Grosso on his wheel?! How would that help his team.
Nobody was riding full gas at this point in the race. Baloise Lions' best chance to win was keeping the tempo as slow as possible and that is best accomplished by having Ronhaar ride on the front until van der Haar is able to re-join.