Rafa Nadal

[Mrs John Murphy]

Somehow I get the impression that you don't know what you are talking about.

 

[Señor_Contador]

Somehow I get the impression that you don't know what you are talking about.

And... let me guess, you do?

 

[Señor_Contador]

Somehow I get the impression that you don't know what you are talking about.

How much inside information do you have on Nadal's or Nole's doping habits?

I'm going to end this argument real quick.

 

[Mrs John Murphy]

More so than you

 

[Señor_Contador]

More so than you

I guess I need not say I do not agree. But what the heck!

And this is coming from someone who eats steak all the time. And actually took clen back in the day (along with cyto). So pardon me for asking but, I'd really like to hear what you iluminatii have to say about this.

 

[Señor_Contador]

How much inside information do you have on Nadal's or Nole's doping habits?

I'm going to end this argument real quick.

Since you're not answering I'm going to answer my own question so that I can go on with my day (which is what I recommend you do too): None.

The only things you know about Nadal's and Nole's doping habits is ZERO.

You may know about the plasma-cleansing techniques or the hyperharic chambers but... the plasma-cleansing stuff was given the green light by even WADA. The hyperbaric chamber is not considered doping in Serbia so all in all you have NOTHING.

The only thing you've got are rumours, insinuations, hearsays, et cetera. Which, by the way, you stubbornly try to pass as pseudo-facts, along with your other basket case friends.

Now, go sleep it off!

 

[Mrs John Murphy]

Can you try that again in a form that makes sense and is at least semi-coherent.

 

[Benotti69]

Since you're not answering I'm going to answer my own question so that I can go on with my day (which is what I recommend you do too): None.

The only things you know about Nadal's and Nole's doping habits is ZERO.

You may know about the plasma-cleansing techniques or the hyperharic chambers but... the plasma-cleansing stuff was given the green light by even WADA. The hyperbaric chamber is not considered doping in Serbia so all in all you have NOTHING.

The only thing you've got are rumours, insinuations, hearsays, et cetera. Which, by the way, you stubbornly try to pass as pseudo-facts, along with your other basket case friends.

Now, go sleep it off!

sadly in todays world they usually prove to be true.

 

[Andynonomous]

I make the predictions I make, based on pattern recognition. It is the same thing that detectives use to catch crooks.

I noticed a pattern with Nadal. His serve speed goes up in the fast surface, important tournaments (fast surface grand slams = Wimbledon, US Open). Especially in the later rounds, where he would need any advantage he could get. The tournaments leading up to, and after these aforementioned slams, Nadal's serve speed is lower. You cannot control your serve speed like this naturally. This pattern has been true, for at least the last two years.

No player in the history of the game has ever had a dramatic mid-career improvement in their serve, before Nadal did last year at the USO. The serve takes years to perfect, and once it is ingrained, it is extremely difficult to change/improve. This year, he has shown (at Wimbledon), that he can magically increase his serve speed at will, in the rounds that he needs them the most (his fastest serves were reserved for the final two rounds, where he played top players). Also note that Nadal is serving with his non-dominant hand (he is right-handed, but serves with his left hand). Yet he can, at will, bring his serve up into the speed, reserved for the best servers (ie. Pete Sampras). Unbelievable !

It is blatently obvious that there is something artificial about Nadal's serve. Since the speeds vary dramatically from match to match, the only thing I know of that would explain these variations, are in-competition boosting.

I have made a prediction for this year's final. How could I know beforehand that Nadal's serve speed would increase for certain matches ? By recognizing the pattern, and what causes that pattern. Likely, in-competition boosting.

 

[Andynonomous]

I make the predictions I make, based on pattern recognition. It is the same thing that detectives use to catch crooks.

I noticed a pattern with Nadal. His serve speed goes up in the fast surface, important tournaments (fast surface grand slams = Wimbledon, US Open). Especially in the later rounds, where he would need any advantage he could get. The tournaments leading up to, and after these aforementioned slams, Nadal's serve speed is lower. You cannot control your serve speed like this naturally. This pattern has been true, for at least the last two years.

No player in the history of the game has ever had a dramatic mid-career improvement in their serve, before Nadal did last year at the USO. The serve takes years to perfect, and once it is ingrained, it is extremely difficult to change/improve. This year, he has shown (at Wimbledon), that he can magically increase his serve speed at will, in the rounds that he needs them the most (his fastest serves were reserved for the final two rounds, where he played top players).

It is blatently obvious that there is something artificial about Nadal's serve. Since the speeds vary dramatically from match to match, the only thing I know of that would explain these variations, are in-competition boosting.

I have made a prediction for this year's final. How could I know beforehand that Nadal's serve speed would increase for certain matches ? By recognizing the pattern, and what causes that pattern. Likely, in-competition boosting.

 

[Andynonomous]

And what steroid is that?

I'd really, really, really like to hear this one.

“Players can use short-acting steroids in combination with human growth hormone which will produce muscle mass and enormous power,” he said.

“And while they can stop just before a competition and test clean, they still get the performance benefit of the drugs.”—Reuters


From "The Australian Sports Drug Agency chief executive John Mendoza"

http://archives.dawn.com/2002/07/13/spt8.htm

 

[sniper]

"and since players aren't subject to any efficient or systematic testing anyhow, players will be able to use such short-acting steroids in-competition and thus neatly time certain peaks in their performances within tournaments"...

 

[Andynonomous]

"and since players aren't subject to any efficient or systematic testing anyhow, players will be able to use such short-acting steroids in-competition and thus neatly time certain peaks in their performances within tournaments"...

Note that that document is from 2002. The comments are from the top guy who was responsible for drug testing at the Sydney Olympics.

Tennis has done NOTHING in the last 9 years to improve the situation. The result, as you would expect, is you have 4 of the most obvious dopers in the final of the US Open this year.

 

[Gingerale]

In another forum, I predicted that Nadal's average first serve speed at Wimbledon, would rise for the last two rounds (because tennis uses an elimination format, the last rounds are where the toughest competitors await). I was right.

I believe that Nadal is using in-competition boosting of a fast acting steroid at strategic times where the prestige and need is at the highest, (like the final rounds of the USO, and Wimbledon). It is believed that you can add a few mph to your serve (the serve has a very similar motion to a "throw", like a baseball pitch). Late in his career, Roger Clemens used steroids to add mph to his fastball.

A player's serve is not manageable on a day to day basis. You can't have it peak naturally where you want it to peak. You have on days, and off days. Just like a clean cyclist has good days and bad days, that they can't arrainge ahead of time when they want their best performances. Like Armstrong always peaking at the TDF, Nadal is always peaking at the final rounds of the grand slams.



PREDICTION : Rafael Nadal will have a higher average first serve speed in the final of the 2011 US Open than in any of the first 6 rounds (his average first serve speed in the first six rounds was about 112 mph, peaking out in the first and 6th rounds at 115 mph). So my prediction is that Nadal will have an average first serve speed above 115 mph in the final. You can check it out after the match below (click on "match statistics").

http://www.usopen.org/en_US/scores/draws/ms/index.html?promo=subnav

(note : if Djokovic or Nadal gets injured in the final it could affect Nadal's serve speed)

interesting prediction about nadal's average first serve speed. will have to check it out during the match tomorrow.

i love tennis despite my suspicions about the biggest stars doping. serena and stoser are playing the final now and stosur may win. both have to be on something, ha! but serena is getting older and she's finally beatable i think by a similarly enhanced opponent.

what about the glandular fever/mono in tennis? not saying i have a clue as to mono being more prevalent in among tennis players than in the general population but federer, ancic, roddick, soderling, isner, henin....and who knows who else. and it strikes my imagination as connected to their using blood doping.

my atp fantasy tennis bracket is finally doing well in the much more predictable final rounds. it was a no brainer that nadal and djokovic would be in the final. i picked gluten free djokovic ftw in 4 sets. but nadal is coming into some unbelievable form i noticed during his semi against murray. it took djokovic 5 sets and saving matchpoints to beat old federer.

 

[Gingerale]

wow! aussie aussie oi oi!

good on sammy for winning us open. she deserved that!

 

[El Pistolero]

Lol, besides Kim Clijsters and the Williams female tennis is really pathetic. What a bunch of crappy winners in the last 3 Grand Slams. They're really missing some top dogs there especially since the William brothers are constantly injured.

 

[Ferminal]

wow! aussie aussie oi oi!

good on sammy for winning us open. she deserved that!

All the "hard work in the gym" finally overcame the tendency to choke.

 

[yourwelcome]

Lol, besides Kim Clijsters and the Williams female tennis is really pathetic. What a bunch of crappy winners in the last 3 Grand Slams. They're really missing some top dogs there especially since the William brothers are constantly injured.

Big words from somebody who wouldn't last a set against even the 100th ranked female player.

 

[sniper]

All the "hard work in the gym" finally overcame the tendency to choke.

..... subtle

 

[Ibanez]

Serena was suffering from some serious 'roid rage yesterday. Disgusting behaviour, fair play to Stosur for not allowing it to faze her but she should have called her out in her speech for the bully she is.

Great Champion? Winning lots of Grand Slams does not give you the right to verbally abuse the Umpire. Not even when the crowd inexplicably supports you for doing so.

 

[richtea]

She's got priors.

 

[El Pistolero]

Big words from somebody who wouldn't last a set against even the 100th ranked female player.

I doubt the number one female tennis player could beat the last ranked male tennis player. Female tennis is in an incredibly low level this year. At the Australian Open some of them looked like they were pregnant, they were that fat. I really have my doubts about how serious some female tennis players take their sport then. They should be paid a lot less to get some more focus perhaps.

Some of the Grand Slam winners this season are the equivalent of Chris Anker Sorenson winning the Tour de France.

Female tennis is definitely missing some of their big stars. Male tennis on the other hand... Top 4 constantly in the top 4 of a Grand Slam.

 

[DirtyWorks]

..At the Australian Open some of them looked like they were pregnant, they were that fat. I really have my doubts about how serious some female tennis players take their sport then.

Oh really? It's just 'whatevers' to them. They mope that they can't sit on the couch and instead have to be on court.

The fat thing is doubly offensive. You want them juiced on PED's for that manly look and performance? Because that's how they get the look to which you aspire.

 

[Zoncolan]

I doubt the number one female tennis player could beat the last ranked male tennis player.

I believe that some 10 years ago or so, Venus and Serena Williams (then ranked No. 1 and No. 2) played Karsten Braasch, at the time ranked outside the top 200 in the world. He was a notorious chain smoker. He even smoked at the change of ends.
The idea was, as they were dominating the ladies' game at the time, they were as good as some male players.
Braasch played a set against each sister, I believe the scorecard was 6-1 and 6-2. They were demolished by a nobody basically.

 

[Anonymous]

Amazing final...just incredible court coverage by nadal and djoker.