1999 TdF wasn't such a shock after Lance came 4th in the 1998 Vuelta. That was when we all suddenly realized he could climb. Plus many (most?) were swallowing the cancer miracle in 1999 before the truth started to trickle out. But I don't know what to make of Remco just yet. I suppose we know after the first MTF.None. Even if he won by 10m it would never be as unbelievable as Dopestrong comeback and destruction of the tour peloton in 99.