Midnightfright said:[quote="ngent41":1huc494s][quote="Bolder":1huc494s][quote="ngent41":1huc494s][quote="Bolder":1huc494s]I think he's clean. I have a hard time believing that a kid who starts cycling at 16 would jump right into doping. You'd think that would come only after a few years of disappointments. But he's been winning from the get go, so why bother?
Have we had testimony from anyone that they started doping as a junior? It seems like most start as neo-pros/espoirs, when the talent has risen to the top and the brutal reality of season-long big-boy racing sets in.
Plenty of teenagers dope. This kid might be new to cycling but he was a footballer, which makes him possibly more suspicious. When i was in high school, I know for a fact at least a dozen people on the school football team were on steroids.[/quote]
You're certainly right that teenagers will dope, but the standard narrative in cycling is that "when I got to pro team X, I got dropped by the side of the road in my first kermesse, so i started on the gear."
When you say "football" do you mean "football" or "American football" b/c not sure that a European footballer would be on steroids per se.[/quote]
My personal experience of teens doping is American football, but if you think soccer players don't dope that's extremely naive. If cyclists usually start doping because they are getting dropped /not winning perhaps soccer players do too. And I think I read that he wasn't one of the top players on the soccer team...
Edit : I am not saying I think he's doping for sure just that It doesn't seem unlikely[/quote]
I don't the comment to read as football players don't dope. More that Steroids wouldn't be at the top of the list as a performance enhancer so Steroids themselves might not be that common[/quote]
Yes this i agree with also. I didnt mean to imply that he was taking steroids, just that teenagers i knew did. Obviously theres other drugs that are more helpful for cycling, lots of them available mail order over the internet. As far as him not having the skills to be the best soccer player. yes thats true also. But maybe he thinks if he dopes he will become the best, it obviously doesnt work that way in soccer, its not a pure athletic endeavor, cycling however is.