Ricco

[snackattack]

Evil Doper™

http:/cyclingnews.com/news/italian-federation-lifts-ban-on-ex-dopers

 

[neineinei]

http://www.gazzetta.it/Ciclismo/28-...co-resta-squalifica-12-anni-92240853737.shtml

CAS upheld the 12 year ban

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

He should go to normal court, he is withheld the opportunity to make a living out of his 'profession'. Twelve years is a joke, add four years and get on with it.

 

[ShrubberyBlue]

He should go to normal court, he is withheld the opportunity to make a living out of his 'profession'. Twelve years is a joke, add four years and get on with it.

Follow the rules or follow a different profession. You can get struck off other professions and have no comeback because rules aren't followed. What makes this one any different. I'd have increased his ban to 24 years for just having the audacity of trying to overturn it.

Riders like him need to disappear in the far distance and never be seen again.

 

[nevada]

Follow the rules or follow a different profession. You can get struck off other professions and have no comeback because rules aren't followed. What makes this one any different. I'd have increased his ban to 24 years for just having the audacity of trying to overturn it.

Riders like him need to disappear in the far distance and never be seen again.

I dont think hes different to a lot of others who know of nothing else.

When you've grown up with it and the infrastructure has supported it, it's difficult to see whats wrong with it.

Your black and white world must be a great place.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

Follow the rules or follow a different profession. You can get struck off other professions and have no comeback because rules aren't followed. What makes this one any different. I'd have increased his ban to 24 years for just having the audacity of trying to overturn it.

Riders like him need to disappear in the far distance and never be seen again.

I do see you know very little on law.

Of course the boy is a doper but a 14 years sentence? Who did he kill actually?

CAS should have given him mental health aid, and a contract on 'a clean team'.
Matey Cobo was allowed to win the Vuelta, remember? But hey, he was clean as a whistle on Pena

That would be 2 strikes as well.

 

[JimmyFingers]

I do see you know very little on law.

Of course the boy is a doper but a 14 years sentence? Who did he kill actually?

CAS should have given him mental health aid, and a contract on 'a clean team'.
Matey Cobo was allowed to win the Vuelta, remember? But hey, he was clean as a whistle on Pena

That would be 2 strikes as well.

Totally agree. A further 12 years feels harsh to me, since the main part of Ricco's crime is being monumentally stupid

 

[rhubroma]

Tragic end to a talented rider, not that he didn't bring it all upon himself of course.

Now I don't support the guy in any way (so don’t misunderstand me), however, his brazenness on the bike is matched by the audacity off it with which he continues to insolently react before the evidence, and the way he's denounced the hypocrisy in the sport.

I don't admire these qualities, though one must admit that in remaining true to character - when he could have otherwise just as easily feigned a wholesome "good boy" act to get good conduct points and perhaps leniency - Ricco accomplishes a sensational performance down to the bitter end. A shotgun performance that was not unlike his enthusiastic racing style.

Too bad this really exceptional performer is a punk and morally repugnant, though perhaps no less so than many of his colleagues who are merely more hypocritical than he.

 

[nevada]

Tragic end to a talented rider, not that he didn't bring it all upon himself of course.

Now I don't support the guy in any way (so don’t misunderstand me), however, his brazenness on the bike is matched by the audacity off it with which he continues to insolently react before the evidence, and the way he's denounced the hypocrisy in the sport.

I don't admire these qualities, though one must admit that in remaining true to character - when he could have otherwise just as easily feigned a wholesome "good boy" act to get good conduct points and perhaps leniency - Ricco accomplishes a sensational performance down to the bitter end. A shotgun performance that was not unlike his enthusiastic racing style.

Too bad this really exceptional performer is a punk and morally repugnant, though perhaps no less so than many of his colleagues who are merely more hypocritical than he.

part him , part infrastructure.

 

[rhubroma]

part him , part infrastructure.

Oh I agree, however, the system evidently had it in for him more than others, or at any rate saw in him a performance that too easily evidenced how dirty cycling is. That plus he was a provocateur.

 

[MarkvW]

He should go to normal court, he is withheld the opportunity to make a living out of his 'profession'. Twelve years is a joke, add four years and get on with it.

Unfortunately, Ricco's "profession" was doping to win professional bicycle races.

 

[thirteen]

Unfortunately, Ricco's "profession" was doping to win professional bicycle races.

as opposed to every other rider?

 

[ultimobici]

He should go to normal court, he is withheld the opportunity to make a living out of his 'profession'. Twelve years is a joke, add four years and get on with it.

He should think himself lucky not to have both died and wound up in court on criminal charges. As such he has gotten off extremely lightly.

Funny how you can be so lenient towards a confirmed doping cheat yet want to strip riders from several decades ago on far less.

 

[rhubroma]

He should think himself lucky not to have both died and wound up in court on criminal charges. As such he has gotten off extremely lightly.

Funny how you can be so lenient towards a confirmed doping cheat yet want to strip riders from several decades ago on far less.

Apart from dying, no, although perhaps living without competetive cycling is for him like being a zombie.

I don't contest his sentence, which is absolutely justified, however, it isn't light at all.

Or perhaps he should do time as well, I don't know. At any rate, it's interesting how such "artists" are so problematic.

 

[BroDeal]

The scapegoating of Ricco is complete. There is something really messed up when Ricco gets twelve years while Leipheimer, Vande Velde and such are banned for six months, the Spanish doep with impunity, the head of the UCI facilitates the Brits making a mockery of cycling, and JV ends up running the sport.

 

[zigmeister]

The scapegoating of Ricco is complete. There is something really messed up when Ricco gets twelve years while Leipheimer, Vande Velde and such are banned for six months, the Spanish doep with impunity, the head of the UCI facilitates the Brits making a mockery of cycling, and JV ends up running the sport.

No fan of Ricco on the doping front. But this same logic and theory can be applied to Armstrong, or any rider that got more than just 6 months.

If they just come clean, 6 months, back to racing...

Ricco's issue is that he was busted 1 previously, so a longer penalty is fitting. But, 12yrs?!?!

 

[BroDeal]

No fan of Ricco on the doping front. But this same logic and theory can be applied to Armstrong, or any rider that got more than just 6 months.

Not quite. Armstrong did a lot more than just dope himself. He deserves a lifetime ban.

Ricco's issue is that he was busted 1 previously, so a longer penalty is fitting. But, 12yrs?!?!

I think it is pretty obvious that cycling's clean up plan is to utterly destroy a few riders to convince the other riders who have been doing the same thing to dial back their doping. The policy is morally reprehensible when it is being carried out by people like JV, who inherits the keys to the kingdom by making riders pariahs for doing the same thing he did.

 

[Wallace]

The scapegoating of Ricco is complete. There is something really messed up when Ricco gets twelve years while Leipheimer, Vande Velde and such are banned for six months, the Spanish doep with impunity, the head of the UCI facilitates the Brits making a mockery of cycling, and JV ends up running the sport.

I'm not saying that Ricco isn't being scapegoated (although if he is, he has only himself to blame for not understanding that being an unrepentant, unapologetic doper is not going to sit well with governing authorities--it's not how you play the game), but you seem to be missing something here, which is that this is his second offense so he's supposed to get a life time ban. That's the way it works. 1st positive=2 years, 2nd=life time. For Leipheimer (well, he's problematic, what with the almost forgotten 1996 ephedrine pos, but never mind) Vande Velde, etc. the admissions were all first offenses. If Ricco had followed the example of Ivan B after his first ban (who actually called Ricco up to offer advice during his brief come back), he'd still be racing today. Essentially Ricco was kicked out of the sport for being a complete and total gibbering moron. It's hard to make any kind of a real scandal out of that.

 

[BroDeal]

I'm not saying that Ricco isn't being scapegoated (although if he is, he has only himself to blame for not understanding that being an unrepentant, unapologetic doper is not going to sit well with governing authorities--it's not how you play the game), but you seem to be missing something here, which is that this is his second offense so he's supposed to get a life time ban. That's the way it works. 1st positive=2 years, 2nd=life time. For Leipheimer (well, he's problematic, what with the almost forgotten 1996 ephedrine pos, but never mind) Vande Velde, etc. the admissions were all first offenses. If Ricco had followed the example of Ivan B after his first ban (who actually called Ricco up to offer advice during his brief come back), he'd still be racing today. Essentially Ricco was kicked out of the sport for being a complete and total gibbering moron. It's hard to make any kind of a real scandal out of that.

What is the real difference? One rider dopes for five years and does not get caught. Another rider dopes for five years and gets caught once. Still another rider dopes for five years and is unlucky enough to get caught twice. The whole thing is a sordid because because everyone in cycling, the UCI, the race organizers, the team managers, the riders, the cycling media, the fans who are not naive, knows that all three have all been doping for five years.

 

[Mrs John Murphy]

The scapegoating of Ricco is complete. There is something really messed up when Ricco gets twelve years while Leipheimer, Vande Velde and such are banned for six months, the Spanish doep with impunity, the head of the UCI facilitates the Brits making a mockery of cycling, and JV ends up running the sport.

Ain't that the truth.

If only Ricco were Spanish. If he were British he'd have got a knighthood and plenty of awards and everyone would be gushing over his 'refreshing quirky tell it how it is personality'.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

Funny how you can be so lenient towards a confirmed doping cheat yet want to strip riders from several decades ago on far less.

At least this one was fun to watch ulti.

And, hey, six years, isnt that enough? The ones I hate got of with uhhhhhh, nothing ultimobici.

This guy Ricco is too stupid to even take a breath on his own. He should be given help.

Ricco is the whipping boy. Bad bad Ricco.

And, yes, he is a doper. A convicted, even confessed to it.

 

[del1962]

Ain't that the truth.

If only Ricco were Spanish. If he were British he'd have got a knighthood and plenty of awards and everyone would be gushing over his 'refreshing quirky tell it how it is personality'.

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[Mrs John Murphy]

edited by mod

Cool. I think that gives me a full house.

 

[Beech Mtn]

Or if only Ricco were Popo. Then he could be police-raided, named in half a dozen investigations, and high on UCI's suspicion index, but keep riding right along, no questions asked, never suspended.

 

[Mrs John Murphy]

Or if only Ricco were Popo. Then he could be police-raided, named in half a dozen investigations, and high on UCI's suspicion index, but keep riding right along, no questions asked, never suspended.

Or Kloden

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