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Ricco's Girlfriend positive for CERA

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This story is a train wreck, refusing to hit the wall and come to a complete stop.


go away Ricco, spend time with your child - fool :eek:
 
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craig1985 said:
Was this split solely because Vania Rossi tested positive, or was this relationship on thin ice for a while, and Ricco had a convenient excuse to give her the flick? I know what Ricco said, but what Ricco said and what was the really the case behind the scenes is another.

The amount hypocritical BS on here is astounding, some people here like to lead the anti-doping crusade, and yet their favourite riders are dopers.

He could have said nothing about the break up....regardless of the reason why. It reeks of PR spin to me.

Agree with the second part of your comment about the BS....but then again it is the clinic, we should expect the extremes.
 
I think it's because most people understand that riders doping is a symptom and are often the "innocent" victims whereas the problem is very much ingrained in the fabric of the sport.

Then there's those that believe the choice between being a top-level cyclist or not doping is simple. Why should the individual bear that large burden?

What about the people that "hate dopers" but their favourite cyclists are Armstrong and Contador? Isn't that hypocritical too?
 
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I won't lie, Lance was one of the main reasons (one of them is because I went to school with somebody who cycled and that his bike was so expensive he kept it in the teacher's staff room, and the other was that I had way too much spare time) I got into cycling, so whether I like it or not, I can't say he is not an influence when it comes to me and cycling. Whilst I prefer Contador myself, I can't completely hate Lance, even if the evidence is too strong to not see that he is a doper.
 
craig1985 said:
I won't lie, Lance was one of the main reasons (one of them is because I went to school with somebody who cycled and that his bike was so expensive he kept it in the teacher's staff room, and the other was that I had way too much spare time) I got into cycling, so whether I like it or not, I can't say he is not an influence when it comes to me and cycling. Whilst I prefer Contador myself, I can't completely hate Lance, even if the evidence is too strong to not see that he is a doper.

Don't feel too bad, it's more than likely that Contra dopes as well :D
 
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Ripper said:
Don't feel too bad, it's more than likely that Contra dopes as well :D

Look I'm well aware of that. I was standing at the foot of the Port de'Bales watching TV coverage of him repeatedly attacking and trying to drop Rasmussen and my jaw dropped at how many times he was able to attack. And then him winning the Giro despite sitting on the beach at Cadiz (or according to Riccardo Ricco, the beach in Madrid), allegedly.

Oh and that he rode for Saiz.
 
does anyone here think about there baby? how huge talent it could have been if it wouldn't have cera-positive genoms since its birth? but i m sure some italian team won't mind that.
 
Riccò's move was a team dictat. Nothing more.

Their's was a sport union, that turned into a family and now the sport union must get broken up and, consequently, the family.

The family union is thus a casualty of the sport union, whereas the latter was entwined with doping from the outset. And one can't say which protagonist was more of an influence on the other or vice versa in their mutual doping. Their's was an "in doping we are connected" relationship from the beginning. Like so many riders/athletes and their wives/significant others (Dario Frigo, Rumsas, Marion Jones, etc.). Ricco's move has been orchestrated between all parties concerened: he, she, the team and probably the Italian Cycling Federation.

The only hypocricy is that coming from those who denounce Riccò as a hypocrit, while still complacently continue to follow this sport, which is ever more of a farce when it comes to the so called stance against doping.

On the other hand, it seems nobody is considering what Riccò has actually said about his motives: namely that he asked Vania for the truth and to have her have the B sample tested as verification. So far she has not been willing to comply, which would amount to a lie towards him, whereas he made it clear that he confessed to her in private before publically confessing when he was caught. If, thus, Vania is lying to him and given his present situation, what reason does Riccò have to stay in the relationship?
 
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rhubroma said:
Riccò's move was a team dictat. Nothing more.

Their's was a sport union, that turned into a family and now the sport union must get broken up and, consequently, the family.

The family union is thus a casualty of the sport union, whereas the latter was entwined with doping from the outset. And one can't say which protagonist was more of an influence on the other or vice verca in their mutual doping. Their's was an "in doping we are connected" relationship from the beginning. Like so many riders/athletes and their wives/significant others (Dario Frigo, Rumsas, Marion Jones, etc.). Ricco's move has been orchestrated between all party's concerened: he, she, the team and probably the Italian Cycling Federation.

The only hypocricy is that coming from those who denounce Riccò as a hypocrit, while still complacently continue to follow this sport, which is ever more of a farce when it comes to the so called stance against doping.

On the other hand, it seems nobody is concidering what Riccò has actually said about his motives: namely that he asked Vania for the truth and to have her have the B sample tested as verification. So far she has not been willing to comply, which would amount to a lie towards him, whereas he made it clear that he confessed to her in private before publically confessing when he was caught. If, thus, Vania is lying to him and given his present situation, what reason does Riccò have to stay in the relationship?

To follow on from that, you wouldn't follow any sport.
 
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rhubroma said:
Riccò's move was a team dictat. Nothing more.

Their's was a sport union, that turned into a family and now the sport union must get broken up and, consequently, the family.

The family union is thus a casualty of the sport union, whereas the latter was entwined with doping from the outset. And one can't say which protagonist was more of an influence on the other or vice verca in their mutual doping. Their's was an "in doping we are connected" relationship from the beginning. Like so many riders/athletes and their wives/significant others (Dario Frigo, Rumsas, Marion Jones, etc.). Ricco's move has been orchestrated between all party's concerened: he, she, the team and probably the Italian Cycling Federation.

The only hypocricy is that coming from those who denounce Riccò as a hypocrit, while still complacently continue to follow this sport, which is ever more of a farce when it comes to the so called stance against doping.

On the other hand, it seems nobody is concidering what Riccò has actually said about his motives: namely that he asked Vania for the truth and to have her have the B sample tested as verification. So far she has not been willing to comply, which would amount to a lie towards him, whereas he made it clear that he confessed to her in private before publically confessing when he was caught. If, thus, Vania is lying to him and given his present situation, what reason does Riccò have to stay in the relationship?
have you ever been in a true relationship:confused:

there are many reasons to stay..the baby is one. if it does not hold because vania held back her admission it never was meant to last.
 
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I do not see why Ricco is taking the tack that he is. When he tested positive, he fessed up. Seems to me, he should say that he encourages her to do the same. Now, if his issue is that she has a child and has potentially harmed the child by doping, then that is another story. I could certainly see how that would be cause for concern. But...that is not what he is saying.
 
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pregnancy and epo

Does anyone on here know what pregnancy and breast feeding do to natural EPO production?

Could the glycosylation pattern change and cause a false positive in the test for CERA?

Seems to me it shouldn't, but I was curious of others on here know better.
 
python said:
have you ever been in a true relationship:confused:

there are many reasons to stay..the baby is one. if it does not hold because vania held back her admission it never was meant to last.
Do we really know that was a true relationship? In the world we live in I am not sure if a baby in a true bonding to keep a relationship together (if there was any).

I am not sure it is that easy. Rhubroma might have a good point. In broken relationships people have the tendency to point fingers at one of the members of the relationship, yet we really do not know what happens behind doors. Rico sure look like an a$$ but we don't know exactly what the conditions of the relationship were: Did she lie to him? Sure lying and doping while you are breastfeeding is a serious offense.

Now, we are not even sure if the relationship was breaking down, of course, Ricco should have stayed with her at least throughout her positive and hopefully would take economic responsibility of the young baby. If there was no love between them, would you rather have an a$$ of a husband by your side even if it were forced conditions?

Again, we really don't know what happens behind doors, so it is very hard for us to judge.

Note: I am not trying to defend Rico, but just to state a point that we could be misjudging some actions by not knowing all the facts
 
python said:
have you ever been in a true relationship:confused:

there are many reasons to stay..the baby is one. if it does not hold because vania held back her admission it never was meant to last.

Unfortunately a few too many...

In any case, just FYI the Italian press has reported that theirs was always a tenuous union. Evidently they had reached the proverbial straw that brook the camel's back. And I don't feel that children, in the presence of irresolvable problems, are ever a good reason to keep a union from spliting up. Kids smell hypocricy in love from 10 miles away (especially when they are the reason for the hypocricy), and they grow up all too bitter because of it.
 
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Rossi accuses Bicisport ...

Rossi's attorney: "Enrico has not authorized release»

"Dear Director,
I write on behalf of Enrico Rossi about the article published on 24.02 U.S. site tuttobiciweb.it entitled "Ricci has destroyed a family with a text message ..." to highlight that the boy has never released any statement on its website, let alone has never made any comments on both the person of Riccardo Ricco is the story which involved her sister Vania Rossi.
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The reality, however, is that Mr. Nicolas Vanegas Sanchez, DEA Agent Publicity Ltd, a collaborator of the magazine Bicisport and involved in the management of the website of Henry Ramirez, sent with complete autonomy and without seeking anything the rider statements appeared on your site by giving even the athlete. As proof of the above just think that the same if they have assumed full and sole responsibility. I would also point out that Enrico Rossi has never granted any interview to Mr. Enzo Vicenne magazine Bicisport and that each article would never appear on this magazine, was not issued to or authorized by my client.
Sure that this clarifies the matter, I extend cordial greetings.

Lawyer Michael King > http://www.tuttobiciweb.it/index.php?page=news&cod=26998&tp=n

Here is the Article:Rossi: Riccò ha distrutto una famiglia con un sms...
http://www.tuttobiciweb.it/index.php?page=news&cod=26966

It is getting nasty ... the two are in the same Flamina team and Enrico might be next in line to be exposed.
 
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How very strange.

I'm having conspiracy theories pop in my head. Must stop, otherwise next thing I'll be supporting LA and Flandis.