Richie Porte Discussion Thread.

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In which year will Porte win the GT Treble?

  • He will only manage the double

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Gigs_98 said:
Red Rick said:
Valv.Piti said:
God I really dislike Porte for some reason. I can't quite put my finger on hit.
Probably because no single is a positive thing that makes you want to root for him while every single thing is mildly annoying which combined altogether is pretty infuriating.
This really is Porte in a nutshell

You understood what he meant? I couldn't decipher that post.
 
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tobydawq said:
Gigs_98 said:
Red Rick said:
Valv.Piti said:
God I really dislike Porte for some reason. I can't quite put my finger on hit.
Probably because no single is a positive thing that makes you want to root for him while every single thing is mildly annoying which combined altogether is pretty infuriating.
This really is Porte in a nutshell

You understood what he meant? I couldn't decipher that post.

He says Porte has no positives, but a lot of very small negatives. Each negative by itself is almost irrelevant, but together they make Porte infuriating.

Personally I find Porte's constant humblebragging somewhat annoying, but to each his own
 
Don't know what humble bragging means but more disappointment for Porte and his fans. Going into the Tour it looked like Porte might be on the way back but it was downhill thereafter. His TDS ride was a good one with plenty of improvement left in the legs. Another season like this one and that might be it for Porte as he doesn't come across as the most confident and motivated type. I think he has two more years maybe to find some redemption at least in grand tours. Of course the one week stage races, you get the impression that he can win those most of the time which is why many fans are frustrated that he can't convert that ability to the three week races. But there has never been a shortage of those riders. Spilak and Costa ? The podium is not getting any closer but I suppose you can also say the same about former GT winners like Quintana and Aru, and also Pinot and Landa. But at least those riders have either won a GT or made the podium.

And now the younger riders are coming through. Simon Yates, Lopez and Mas are already ahead of Porte GT results wise. Dumoulin has moved past Porte like he was standing still and already has three podiums and Geraint Thomas has his GT win. Even Zakarin has one podium. Then you have Bernal and Roglic. If the clock wasn't ticking loudly before it has suddenly become much louder. Porte's best years and opportunities could be over. It's not as if it hasn't happened to other good riders The other option is that Porte has been simply overrated and fans and the media either expected too much or completely misjudged what he is capable of. Sure injuries, illness, crashes and luck play a part in any pro cyclist's working life but they usually don't define an entire career.
 
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movingtarget said:
Don't know what humble bragging means

Humble Brag
When you, usually consciously, try to get away with bragging about yourself by couching it in a phony show of humility.
"Your inflatable inner-tube is way cooler than my 80-foot yacht. You get to be so much closer to the water and to nature. I envy you, I really do"

For example earlier this year when he said he's "No Eddy Merckx, I can only do..." and then proceeded to quote ridiculous and completely impossible power numbers that would have won him the Tour by at least half an hour if they were true.
 
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GuyIncognito said:
movingtarget said:
Don't know what humble bragging means

Humble Brag
When you, usually consciously, try to get away with bragging about yourself by couching it in a phony show of humility.
"Your inflatable inner-tube is way cooler than my 80-foot yacht. You get to be so much closer to the water and to nature. I envy you, I really do"

For example earlier this year when he said he's "No Eddy Merckx, I can only do..." and then proceeded to quote ridiculous and completely impossible power numbers that would have won him the Tour by at least half an hour if they were true.

And he, for once, was able to not hit the ground in more than 10 consecutive days.
 
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Red Rick said:
Portes best years and opportunities have been over for a while.

Sad but true unless he pulls a rabbit out of a hat next year instead of the usual snake. Some people keep referring back to Evans winning the Tour at 34 but Evans was operating on another level and was a completely different type of rider. How many people can honestly say, that they thought Geraint Thomas would win a Tour ? Not me. Sport is full of surprises but I'm not sure Porte will be one of them.
 
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movingtarget said:
Red Rick said:
Portes best years and opportunities have been over for a while.

Sad but true unless he pulls a rabbit out of a hat next year instead of the usual snake. Some people keep referring back to Evans winning the Tour at 34 but Evans was operating on another level and was a completely different type of rider. How many people can honestly say they thought Geraint Thomas would win a Tour ? Not me. Sport is full of surprises but I'm not sure Porte will be one of them.

Evans was a gutsy rider too. Plus, in 2011, he didn’t have to deal with a pre-ban Bertie flying on all cylinders that year- not belittling his victory, as there were many instances where Evans could/should have won another TdF.
Before 2011, Evans had 3-4 GT podiums, so really the most shocking thing about him winning was that he beat Bertie and Schleck to win.

Porte, OTOH, has 0 GT podiums and will be 34 years old. He also won’t be facing a weakened opposition like Evans in 2011. On top of that, there was no Sky Train to deal with in those days.
 
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Red Rick said:
Porte could have been Thomas this year if he hadn't left Sky.

I am not sure about that

The thing is Porte could match Thomas on climbing ability but that is it
Thomas can take pressure of leadership, can command loyalty and confidence of a team, keeps his head up when down,etc...Wining isn't always about the legs. Porte has been (is?) a top climber but not a top GC leader

I cant see him winning the Tour at Trek...for one thing he doesn't have the team to match SKY and he doesn't have the youth to match Dumoulin or Roglic
 
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Red Rick said:
Porte could have been Thomas this year if he hadn't left Sky.
Red Rick said:
Portes best years and opportunities have been over for a while.


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HelloDolly said:
Red Rick said:
Porte could have been Thomas this year if he hadn't left Sky.

I am not sure about that

The thing is Porte could match Thomas on climbing ability but that is it
Thomas can take pressure of leadership, can command loyalty and confidence of a team, keeps his head up when down,etc...Wining isn't always about the legs. Porte has been (is?) a top climber but not a top GC leader

I cant see him winning the Tour at Trek...for one thing he doesn't have the team to match SKY and he doesn't have the youth to match Dumoulin or Roglic

Thomas actually looked comfortable winning the Tour. No falls and riding for the best team in the world helps. It was almost the perfect race from a GT contender. Bernal as the last man standing was obviously a bonus on some of the MTFs. Talent wise I think Thomas and Porte are pretty close but that's not the full picture of course.