Richie Porte Discussion Thread.

[lenric]

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At the tour?

And I agree. Porte is likeliest to get in the podium than any other rider (apart from the top 3. I'd include Nibali, in case he didn't ride il Giro). However, I believe he's the least likely rider to get in the top 5, if we consider the likes of Aru, Nibali, Pinot and a couple more riders.

That's a lot of faith in a rider whose past results indicate a top 15 would be a huge accomplishment.

To achieve a podium he must perform close to his full potential consistently and I can hardly see that happen according to all the proxies we have.

That being said, if he performs as his usual self, as in, having one or two really bad days, he'll hardly podium, or top 5 to be fair. But if the stars align and he can keep consistently a high level (close to his ceiling) then yes, he can challenge a podium, more so than Aru, Pinot, TVG or any other rider apart from the top 3.

 

[movingtarget]

Re: Re:

At the tour?

And I agree. Porte is likeliest to get in the podium than any other rider (apart from the top 3. I'd include Nibali, in case he didn't ride il Giro). However, I believe he's the least likely rider to get in the top 5, if we consider the likes of Aru, Nibali, Pinot and a couple more riders.

That's a lot of faith in a rider whose past results indicate a top 15 would be a huge accomplishment.

Yes BMC picked him up because they needed a good GC rider for the top 15 ! They obviously believe the potential is there but he has to convert the one week form to three weeks. See what happens in July. I don't expect Nibali to back up and Aru seems to be out of sorts or ill. Pinot and Bardet are the sort of riders that need to be in a break to make the podium and that won't happen in the Tour. Outside of Quintana Froome and Contador there are quite a few riders for the top 5 but luck and falls and illness plays a part as well. I just hope no one gets wiped out in the first week. Porte is in the mix but for him it always seems to be out about recovery and keeping his morale high. I think less racing days going into the Tour was the right prep for Porte and the hard racing in the Dauphine will be just what was needed. Talansky is another one who badly needs to get his GC aspirations back on track after showing plenty of potential early in his career.

 

[DNP-Old]

Hahahaha. Great ride for 4th place in GC.

I hope he steps on a Lego tonight.

 

[SeriousSam]

Unfortunate positioning there in the end, but good to see he was able to follow all the important moves in what was the third consecutive mountain stage.

Unlike the other riders in his tier (the one below the Big 2 and Contador's that also includes Aru and Pinot) he is not guaranteed to get dropped every single MTF, which will make him intriguing to watch at the Tour.

 

[Red Rick]

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Hahahaha. Great ride for 4th place in GC.

I hope he steps on a Lego tonight.

Not sure what to do with this

 

[SeriousSam]

Aren't such malicious wishes against the Forum Rules?

 

[DNP-Old]

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Hahahaha. Great ride for 4th place in GC.

I hope he steps on a Lego tonight.

Not sure what to do with this

Agree though

If I were a mod, I'd find such comments ban-worthy, since stepping on a Lego is the worst pain imaginable.

 

[KGB]

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Hahahaha. Great ride for 4th place in GC.

I hope he steps on a Lego tonight.

So much love for Richie

 

[Red Rick]

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Aren't such malicious wishes against the Forum Rules?

I've taken it up with the forum staff.

 

[Scarponi]

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Unfortunate positioning there in the end, but good to see he was able to follow all the important moves in what was the third consecutive mountain stage.

Unlike the other riders in his tier (the one below the Big 2 and Contador's that also includes Aru and Pinot) he is not guaranteed to get dropped every single MTF, which will make him intriguing to watch at the Tour.

haha got to love how this whole post the purpose was to put the Big 2 and then Contador below.

Richie really was just a means to get there.

Well done

 

[DBotero]

Interesting that despite all the heat Porte gets these days he still finished in front of Contador in the final GC.Hopefully in July will repeat it.

 

[movingtarget]

Re:

Unfortunate positioning there in the end, but good to see he was able to follow all the important moves in what was the third consecutive mountain stage.

Unlike the other riders in his tier (the one below the Big 2 and Contador's that also includes Aru and Pinot) he is not guaranteed to get dropped every single MTF, which will make him intriguing to watch at the Tour.

By the time he woke up to the danger he got boxed in by Sky who sat up in front of him. Really careless riding by Porte. He should have been on Bardet's back wheel. I bet his DS was impressed.

 

[StryderHells]

Re: Re:

At the tour?

And I agree. Porte is likeliest to get in the podium than any other rider (apart from the top 3. I'd include Nibali, in case he didn't ride il Giro). However, I believe he's the least likely rider to get in the top 5, if we consider the likes of Aru, Nibali, Pinot and a couple more riders.

That's a lot of faith in a rider whose past results indicate a top 15 would be a huge accomplishment.

Yes BMC picked him up because they needed a good GC rider for the top 15 ! They obviously believe the potential is there but he has to convert the one week form to three weeks.

Yes and teams have never made a mistake before

 

[Scarponi]

Interesting that despite all the heat Porte gets these days he still finished in front of Contador in the final GC.Hopefully in July will repeat it.

You have to finish in front of everyone to win a race though

 

[PremierAndrew]

Does Porte realise he'd no longer get a grilling from Brailsford if he attacks Froome?

 

[SeriousSam]

Re: Re:

Unfortunate positioning there in the end, but good to see he was able to follow all the important moves in what was the third consecutive mountain stage.

Unlike the other riders in his tier (the one below the Big 2 and Contador's that also includes Aru and Pinot) he is not guaranteed to get dropped every single MTF, which will make him intriguing to watch at the Tour.

haha got to love how this whole post the purpose was to put the Big 2 and then Contador below.

Richie really was just a means to get there.

Well done

It's a mystery why you'd think that. I've followed and analysed the travails of lil'Richie for some time now.

At any rate, if we group riders by chance to win, Contador clearly belongs to a group below that of Froome and Quintana but above that of the rest.

 

[KGB]

Interesting that despite all the heat Porte gets these days he still finished in front of Contador in the final GC.Hopefully in July will repeat it.

That was not about Contador but about Richie podium place.In July he needs work for TVG.His one week race as a ''leader'' is his best shot nad he Failed!!

 

[KGB]

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Does Porte realise he'd no longer get a grilling from Brailsford if he attacks Froome?

Not yet.Brailsfraund didn't tell him that yet.He is planning do that after TDF(will still need him).

 

[movingtarget]

Re: Re:

At the tour?

And I agree. Porte is likeliest to get in the podium than any other rider (apart from the top 3. I'd include Nibali, in case he didn't ride il Giro). However, I believe he's the least likely rider to get in the top 5, if we consider the likes of Aru, Nibali, Pinot and a couple more riders.

That's a lot of faith in a rider whose past results indicate a top 15 would be a huge accomplishment.

Yes BMC picked him up because they needed a good GC rider for the top 15 ! They obviously believe the potential is there but he has to convert the one week form to three weeks.

Yes and teams have never made a mistake before

Today's stupidity does not make it any better but of course many riders never live up to their potential or what others think they are capable of.

 

[portugal11]

Froome will have 17 teammates in le tour...

 

[SeriousSam]

vs

27 Darwin Atapuma (Col) BMC Racing Team 0:06:22
28 Tejay Van Garderen (USA) BMC Racing Team

It's clear now who the Supreme Leader of BMC is going to be. Hopefully Teejay can ride into some form so as to be a useful servant when Richie will be competing with the titans of GT racing

 

[BigMac]

Still think TJ is a much more reliable bet for the overall.

 

[Miburo]

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Still think TJ is a much more reliable bet for the overall.

How? To get a top 10? Who gives a *** about that? BMC shouldn't then again it's BMC so who the *** knows

Porte has a better chance in achieving a higher placement for sure.

 

[nesvik]

Do you guys live in a cave or something? Porte will have that one bad day like hes had everyother year what exactly makes you guys believe something else will happen this year...Hes a stage racer not a GT rider its well knowned fact within Sky organisation aswell, Arvesen said so himself.

 

[SeriousSam]

Disbelief in the law of small numbers