Richie Porte Discussion Thread.

[Galic Ho]

Well done Richie!

I was cheering for him earlier. Started saying 'Go Richie' before the action started, well over 50km out!

Then when Quintana couldn't move, Porte did. He did exactly what I said he needed to do if he had the legs. And it worked.

Bauke Mollema was fantastic too. Porte and Froome dropped everyone. It's sad that Quintana had to rely on Valvderde, but these things happen.

Excusing the atrocious racing incident, who bar Contador has the ability to do what they did? Nobody.

So its stage 12, Richie HAS NOT BONKED, he's gotten past his hoo doo, yeah he crashed, big whoop, he's got the form. Podium is on the cards.

The test is tomorrow in the chrono...but yeah, Froome and Porte have more than the others so far. Aru looked good given how bad his race has been relative to the rest. It's simple, Porte proved he has better form than his rivals...Tejay is now his domestique.

Sure the time checks after the blunder...I've been saying for ages the race is shocking in France in the Mountains...maybe the French will improve security like the Italians and Spanish have. But in terms of fire power, Richie lit a cracker today! Well done!!

 

[Galic Ho]

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Chill Gallic Ho. This is all just fun and games after all.

Careful now ! I don't need more explanations of how bad BMC are from dear Galic. I prefer to take a wait and see attitude and enjoy the race for what it is. Ventoux and the TT should be great stages I hope.

You got your wish...

What did you say? Now I called the flat, on stage 2, who spoke about the mountain today?

 

[Galic Ho]

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Chill Gallic Ho. This is all just fun and games after all.

Careful now ! I don't need more explanations of how bad BMC are from dear Galic. I prefer to take a wait and see attitude and enjoy the race for what it is. Ventoux and the TT should be great stages I hope.

I must have stepped on his dog :surprised:

Queue: Another verbose barrage.

I have a pack of dogs and unlike the BMC tragic Cadel Evans, where I am from, people don't need to threaten others.

My dog would rip your balls off. They can drop a grown kangaroo...they have claws. They can take down a drop bear too...those French fans would be a walk in the park.

There is the solution to rabid fans. Send in the dogs....

 

[movingtarget]

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Just listened to his interview, he's distraught.

I can't believe his luck and now I hear that he has an injured knee and Froome has hurt his jaw. Unbelievable. Porte was looking so good today and Mollema has been a surprise. Quintana looked ordinary and the TT has to be a good one for him or he is in trouble I think.

 

[movingtarget]

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Chill Gallic Ho. This is all just fun and games after all.

Careful now ! I don't need more explanations of how bad BMC are from dear Galic. I prefer to take a wait and see attitude and enjoy the race for what it is. Ventoux and the TT should be great stages I hope.

You got your wish...

What did you say? Now I called the flat, on stage 2, who spoke about the mountain today?

Well I would have preferred not seeing the crash of course. It's a cruel sport sometimes.

 

[thehook]

I cannot stand LRP.....But he is having some serious bad luck. He is the only guy who can ride with Froome IMHO. Take out his puncture and he is fighting for the win!

Now all you TJ fans tell me how TJ is a better rider then LRP.

 

[Cookster15]

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Chill Gallic Ho. This is all just fun and games after all.

Careful now ! I don't need more explanations of how bad BMC are from dear Galic. I prefer to take a wait and see attitude and enjoy the race for what it is. Ventoux and the TT should be great stages I hope.

I must have stepped on his dog :surprised:

Queue: Another verbose barrage.

I have a pack of dogs and unlike the BMC tragic Cadel Evans, where I am from, people don't need to threaten others.

My dog would rip your balls off. They can drop a grown kangaroo...they have claws. They can take down a drop bear too...those French fans would be a walk in the park.

There is the solution to rabid fans. Send in the dogs....

Send in the scoops. Soylent Green. Make these fans into something useful.

TT will show if Porte is hurt mentally or physically. If not he should do well based upon the form he is showing this race so far. His post stage words were promising, not dropping his head?

 

[lenric]

The leader of BMC. Garderen just doesn't have it. Hope from now on BMC knows who should they stand for.

 

[yaco]

No surprise for me - Porte is in the best 3 or 4 riders in the peleton.

 

[SeriousSam]

“It’s the decision they had to take. It’s already out of control. I agree that you come to the race, you have a good time but you don’t need to be running beside the riders, you don’t need to hitting riders, pushing riders. Things have got to change and I can’t believe there weren’t barriers there. At the end of the day I’ve trained so hard for this and yeah okay now I get the same time as Mollema, but I also crashed and now I’m sore. Tomorrow’s a crucial stage as well and it remains to be seen how I’ll pull up. It’s bitterly disappointing but at the end of the day it’s the right decision by the UCI jury. We love the fans and 99 percent of them are brilliant but why do some of them need to take their selfies and run along beside us? There’s passion and there’s stupidity and it’s not such a fine line between them.”

Good take from Richie

 

[Galic Ho]

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Chill Gallic Ho. This is all just fun and games after all.

Careful now ! I don't need more explanations of how bad BMC are from dear Galic. I prefer to take a wait and see attitude and enjoy the race for what it is. Ventoux and the TT should be great stages I hope.

I must have stepped on his dog :surprised:

Queue: Another verbose barrage.

I have a pack of dogs and unlike the BMC tragic Cadel Evans, where I am from, people don't need to threaten others.

My dog would rip your balls off. They can drop a grown kangaroo...they have claws. They can take down a drop bear too...those French fans would be a walk in the park.

There is the solution to rabid fans. Send in the dogs....

Send in the scoops. Soylent Green. Make these fans into something useful.

TT will show if Porte is hurt mentally or physically. If not he should do well based upon the form he is showing this race so far. His post stage words were promising, not dropping his head?

Based on his form today, Porte and Froome should put considerable time into many rivals in the time trial tomorrow.

I actually would say should Richie have a mechanical from now on, Tejay SHOULD hand his bike over.

Valverde would do it for Quintana in an instant. Richie is clearly stronger.

Looking at the GC, I expect Richie could even be in third tomorrow. I know he's 2:22 down, but who has a stronger chrono than him? Froome and based on the echelons and extra fatigue, despite improving his chrono, I expect Quintana to lose more time than I originally expected.

Purito is right in front of Porte...he'll lose a lot of time, as he usually does. Bardet will lose time to.

I expect Valverde, Quintana and Aru to be maybe equal but easily a minute down...probably 90-120 seconds, if the echelon fatigue from stages 10 and 11 really hits them.

Should Martin (because Etixx riders have peculiar and strong chronos) gain time, along with Mollema I won't be surprised. Yates? I have no idea...but if Puriot doesn't lose 2 mins to Froome or whoever on GC is fastest, then that's a good stage.

To Tejay is 38 seconds...he should get that. Tejay is his closest rival based on capacity in a time trial, and Richie has his number this year. It's 95 seconds to Yates...yeah, I guess Richie could do that.

Second on GC tomorrow, probably 3rd to 5th is on the cards...he's doing well.

 

[Galic Ho]

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“It’s the decision they had to take. It’s already out of control. I agree that you come to the race, you have a good time but you don’t need to be running beside the riders, you don’t need to hitting riders, pushing riders. Things have got to change and I can’t believe there weren’t barriers there. At the end of the day I’ve trained so hard for this and yeah okay now I get the same time as Mollema, but I also crashed and now I’m sore. Tomorrow’s a crucial stage as well and it remains to be seen how I’ll pull up. It’s bitterly disappointing but at the end of the day it’s the right decision by the UCI jury. We love the fans and 99 percent of them are brilliant but why do some of them need to take their selfies and run along beside us? There’s passion and there’s stupidity and it’s not such a fine line between them.”

Good take from Richie

He did face plant into the motorbike.

Honestly, I thought everyone was fortunate not to lose more time to the front 3 who crashed. I'd have given them a bonus 10 seconds simply for lost time...

 

[Cookster15]

So Galic, I see finally we are in agreement . Well you got it right predicting Evans' TT in 2011 so I hold hope for your clairvoyance this time (meta details?). But even if you are proven right and he kills the TT we will still be sweating if and when he has his bad day or if one of my "less capable riders" suddenly find the legs they haven't shown yet - Bardet?

A few Porte haters might be getting nervous that Richie has now looked strong on two proper MTFs. Porte looked even stronger on Ventoux than he did on Arcalis - Jancouver I'm looking at you. But I am sure the haters will pounce if LRP implodes tomorrow or in the Alpes. Its all good watching until then. He's really embarrassing TJVG though. Just hope his knee isn't a factor and if it is he doesn't let that play with his mind.

 

[Galic Ho]

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So Galic, I see finally we are in agreement . Well you got it right predicting Evans' TT in 2011 so I hold hope for your clairvoyance this time (meta details?). But even if you are proven right and he kills the TT we will still be sweating if and when he has his bad day or if one of my "less capable riders" suddenly find the legs they haven't shown yet - Bardet?

A few Porte haters might be getting nervous that Richie has now looked strong on two proper MTFs. Porte looked even stronger on Ventoux than he did on Arcalis - Jancouver I'm looking at you. But I am sure the haters will pounce if LRP implodes tomorrow or in the Alpes. Its all good watching until then. He's really embarrassing TJVG though. Just hope his knee isn't a factor and if it is he doesn't let that play with his mind.

Bardet, should be expected to finish ahead of Tejay in most mountain stages, considering he had one bad day last year. Any time lost in the flat time trial, should be recovered overall and a similar result to 2014 is kind of what one could expect...roughly balancing each other out.

When the road goes up, if the remaining contingent attack each other, I'd expect Bardet to have more punch. Tejay has no punch. He rides to limit his losses to a guy who can accelerate.

Porte did face plant straight into the camera on that motorbike, but he got going reasonably well. He got through day 12, which is further than he's made it in the past, and he's taken time on every rival but Froome on every mountain pass. So he has form.

Tomorrow will reveal the race for GC for everyone. 2:22 back to 11th on stage 12, is actually really close.

It's personally, a shame Contador crashed, because he'd have made this interesting, but it is what it is...Aru did look much better today than in Andorra and was perhaps, with Yates (who I know little about - and I think its bizarre OBE suddenly has 2 GC riders out of nowhere in back to back GT's) the best climber tonight of the chasers. Aru and Quintana have a habit of recovering exceptionally well in the third week.

Valverde and Quintana will not give up. They'll do something.

BMC might have to start thinking about Tejay's role come the end of tomorrow. If Richie pulls 30-40 seconds back on Tejay, he must be made leader, even if that puts them equal on time. BMC cannot afford to have their strongest rider without a bike again...that's just tactically stupid.

 

[The Chicken]

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Just listened to his interview, he's distraught.

I can't believe his luck and now I hear that he has an injured knee and Froome has hurt his jaw. Unbelievable. Porte was looking so good today and Mollema has been a surprise. Quintana looked ordinary and the TT has to be a good one for him or he is in trouble I think.

Where did you hear that Porte has an injured knee?

 

[Cookster15]

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Just listened to his interview, he's distraught.

I can't believe his luck and now I hear that he has an injured knee and Froome has hurt his jaw. Unbelievable. Porte was looking so good today and Mollema has been a surprise. Quintana looked ordinary and the TT has to be a good one for him or he is in trouble I think.

Where did you hear that Porte has an injured knee?

I don't think its that bad judging by how he got up and rode. We will see tomorrow.

 

[IndianCyclist]

He is jinxed/cursed/unlucky. How many riders have absurd kind of crashes/incidents/Bad days happen to them when they have trained completely for it.

 

[The Chicken]

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I don't think its that bad judging by how he got up and rode. We will see tomorrow.[/quote]

Yeah he seemed OK to me too.

I think he's the strongest guy in the race. Man I hope he smashes the TT tomorrow.

 

[movingtarget]

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The leader of BMC. Garderen just doesn't have it. Hope from now on BMC knows who should they stand for.

He can do well in the TTs though especially the first one which suits him more.

 

[movingtarget]

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Just listened to his interview, he's distraught.

I can't believe his luck and now I hear that he has an injured knee and Froome has hurt his jaw. Unbelievable. Porte was looking so good today and Mollema has been a surprise. Quintana looked ordinary and the TT has to be a good one for him or he is in trouble I think.

Where did you hear that Porte has an injured knee?

Someone else mentioned it in the forum. Maybe he's okay. There was so much chaos and conflicting information after the stage I am sure there will be corrections today.

 

[Jelantik]

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So Galic, I see finally we are in agreement . Well you got it right predicting Evans' TT in 2011 so I hold hope for your clairvoyance this time (meta details?). But even if you are proven right and he kills the TT we will still be sweating if and when he has his bad day or if one of my "less capable riders" suddenly find the legs they haven't shown yet - Bardet?

A few Porte haters might be getting nervous that Richie has now looked strong on two proper MTFs. Porte looked even stronger on Ventoux than he did on Arcalis - Jancouver I'm looking at you. But I am sure the haters will pounce if LRP implodes tomorrow or in the Alpes. Its all good watching until then. He's really embarrassing TJVG though. Just hope his knee isn't a factor and if it is he doesn't let that play with his mind.

Bardet, should be expected to finish ahead of Tejay in most mountain stages, considering he had one bad day last year. Any time lost in the flat time trial, should be recovered overall and a similar result to 2014 is kind of what one could expect...roughly balancing each other out.

When the road goes up, if the remaining contingent attack each other, I'd expect Bardet to have more punch. Tejay has no punch. He rides to limit his losses to a guy who can accelerate.

Porte did face plant straight into the camera on that motorbike, but he got going reasonably well. He got through day 12, which is further than he's made it in the past, and he's taken time on every rival but Froome on every mountain pass. So he has form.

Tomorrow will reveal the race for GC for everyone. 2:22 back to 11th on stage 12, is actually really close.

It's personally, a shame Contador crashed, because he'd have made this interesting, but it is what it is...Aru did look much better today than in Andorra and was perhaps, with Yates (who I know little about - and I think its bizarre OBE suddenly has 2 GC riders out of nowhere in back to back GT's) the best climber tonight of the chasers. Aru and Quintana have a habit of recovering exceptionally well in the third week.

Valverde and Quintana will not give up. They'll do something.

BMC might have to start thinking about Tejay's role come the end of tomorrow. If Richie pulls 30-40 seconds back on Tejay, he must be made leader, even if that puts them equal on time. BMC cannot afford to have their strongest rider without a bike again...that's just tactically stupid.

well, BMC is stupid already. They and Tejay still believe that Tejay's habit of loosing on first mountain top finish (tejay's word). They believe in consistency. For us, it's clear that he is just pedaling square limiting his loss.

 

[sienna]

It could be that Porte was the real loser GC wise because he was looking quite on top of it and at least matching Froome. Maybe we'll never know - hopefully we will find out one way or another.

 

[movingtarget]

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So Galic, I see finally we are in agreement . Well you got it right predicting Evans' TT in 2011 so I hold hope for your clairvoyance this time (meta details?). But even if you are proven right and he kills the TT we will still be sweating if and when he has his bad day or if one of my "less capable riders" suddenly find the legs they haven't shown yet - Bardet?

A few Porte haters might be getting nervous that Richie has now looked strong on two proper MTFs. Porte looked even stronger on Ventoux than he did on Arcalis - Jancouver I'm looking at you. But I am sure the haters will pounce if LRP implodes tomorrow or in the Alpes. Its all good watching until then. He's really embarrassing TJVG though. Just hope his knee isn't a factor and if it is he doesn't let that play with his mind.

Bardet, should be expected to finish ahead of Tejay in most mountain stages, considering he had one bad day last year. Any time lost in the flat time trial, should be recovered overall and a similar result to 2014 is kind of what one could expect...roughly balancing each other out.

When the road goes up, if the remaining contingent attack each other, I'd expect Bardet to have more punch. Tejay has no punch. He rides to limit his losses to a guy who can accelerate.

Porte did face plant straight into the camera on that motorbike, but he got going reasonably well. He got through day 12, which is further than he's made it in the past, and he's taken time on every rival but Froome on every mountain pass. So he has form.

Tomorrow will reveal the race for GC for everyone. 2:22 back to 11th on stage 12, is actually really close.

It's personally, a shame Contador crashed, because he'd have made this interesting, but it is what it is...Aru did look much better today than in Andorra and was perhaps, with Yates (who I know little about - and I think its bizarre OBE suddenly has 2 GC riders out of nowhere in back to back GT's) the best climber tonight of the chasers. Aru and Quintana have a habit of recovering exceptionally well in the third week.

Valverde and Quintana will not give up. They'll do something.

BMC might have to start thinking about Tejay's role come the end of tomorrow. If Richie pulls 30-40 seconds back on Tejay, he must be made leader, even if that puts them equal on time. BMC cannot afford to have their strongest rider without a bike again...that's just tactically stupid.

well, BMC is stupid already. They and Tejay still believe that Tejay's habit of loosing on first mountain top finish (tejay's word). They believe in consistency. For us, it's clear that he is just pedaling square limiting his loss.

Both of the BMC riders should move up up the GC after the TT. It will be interesting comparing TJVG and Porte's times but I think TJVG is trying to save himself for the third week like Quintana. He is getting dropped on the climbs but managing the time losses. He looks to be aiming for the podium on the strength of his TTs. He generally does go better in the Alps but Porte seems to be climbing as well as anyone at the moment.

 

[Galic Ho]

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He is jinxed/cursed/unlucky. How many riders have absurd kind of crashes/incidents/Bad days happen to them when they have trained completely for it.

Not anymore. Broken.

Easy stuff...watch tonight and see how he fares.

 

[Galic Ho]

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well, BMC is stupid already. They and Tejay still believe that Tejay's habit of loosing on first mountain top finish (tejay's word). They believe in consistency. For us, it's clear that he is just pedaling square limiting his loss.

That flat for Richie was stupid.

I was just reading a few comments that Tejay made in relation to Mollema and his complaints. Somehow Tejay shifted, which is how he speaks, about riders not waiting for Froome. Seems his time with Lance has impacted his view on 'waiting.'

Not judging, but he should be held to that standard. He should wait and could have waited for Richie last night. He was last of the other GC riders trailing Valverde and Quintana over the line by 5 seconds (it was later nullified by taking the 1.2km time gaps).

That's 2 mountain top finishes he's been the slowest of the front runners. Yeah, he beat Dan Martin today...but Dan has the capacity to accelerate and attack. Dan use to be my go to guy for a laugh, because he was exceptionally unfortunate. That's changed. I can see Dan making a move.

Tejay will benefit from this chrono. Had Pinot, not totally botched his Tour, which is surely not planned, just something that has occurred, I'd have expected their time trial to be relatively even. This years Tour is actually a lot better for strategy than I could have asked...tonight will be good.

But yeah, I agree with you. Tejay says some really silly stuff every day. His PR team need to teach him to say less and be honest, but the self analysis of his rivals just leaves him open for criticism...he is really bad at it. This is what I referred to as 'over hyping' a rider; BMC have done a lot of that in their press handling. Sure Tejay is the American hope...good racing is better than nationalistic pride IMO.