Richie Porte - what do we know about him?

[Dear Wiggo]

Not having the form is only one explanation. It could be that he doesn't care and doesn't see any point in serious exertion, or is letting go in some sort of silent protest.

I'm going with this. He's keen to get a GT role, and could probably podium the Giro next year. He has also done a mountain of work for the team helping Froome and winning a race of his own.

Being sent to smog central to race and all that China entails, being away from the gf, etc, etc, is more like a punishment than a reward for a job well done in 2013.

 

[thehog]

I'm going with this. He's keen to get a GT role, and could probably podium the Giro next year. He has also done a mountain of work for the team helping Froome and winning a race of his own.

Being sent to smog central to race and all that China entails, being away from the gf, etc, etc, is more like a punishment than a reward for a job well done in 2013.

I tend to agree.

Smog is worse than CO doping!

Or is it the same thing?

Seriously I agree. You just want to go on holiday & starting planning for the next year.

 

[Parker]

Not having the form is only one explanation. It could be that he doesn't care and doesn't see any point in serious exertion, or is letting go in some sort of silent protest.

Although he's done 15 or so race days since the Tour and all bar the WC TTT show the same thing (you can count on one hand the number of similar days he had earlier in the season).

Porte and Froome's season finished in Paris in July. Everything since is early light training for 2014.

 

[JRanton]

Porte and Froome's season finished in Paris in July. Everything since is early light training for 2014.

Then why did they do a tough two and a half week training camp out in Colorado? And why make such a song and dance about Froome targeting the Worlds? Sending them out to train and race around the world doesn't sound like early light training for 2014 to me.

 

[darwin553]

Then why did they do a tough two and a half week training camp out in Colorado? And why make such a song and dance about Froome targeting the Worlds? Sending them out to train and race around the world doesn't sound like early light training for 2014 to me.

Because the sceptics just cannot believe that two riders can put so much energy and effort into the races up to and including TdF and having nothing left for the rest of the season that it is actually in-line with how a clean rider should naturally perform over a season of racing

 

[Ferminal]

Porte and Froome's season finished in Paris in July. Everything since is early light training for 2014.

If that's the case his form should be improving?

The party hasn't quite finished.

 

[The Hitch]

Because the sceptics just cannot believe that two riders can put so much energy and effort into the races up to and including TdF and having nothing left for the rest of the season that it is actually in-line with how a clean rider should naturally perform over a season of racing

Based on what

what would you know about how a clean rider should and should not perform over a season..

6 month superpeak without a hint of.exhaustion is now the sign of a clean athlete? Since no other rider in the world besides Wiggins froome and Porte have done it, does that mean they are the only 3 clean riders ever?

 

[Ferminal]

You forgot Purito and Piti, they are also clean.

 

[meat puppet]

Because the sceptics just cannot believe that two riders can put so much energy and effort into the races up to and including TdF and having nothing left for the rest of the season that it is actually in-line with how a clean rider should naturally perform over a season of racing

look, no amount of imaginary fatigue is not gonna cancel the stars' ability to just ride along with the peloton, in the active recovery zone or just above it in the couple of hills that are tossed in.

the definition of star GT riders? that riding along the peloton is a walk in the park because of the huge physiological talent they possess. granted, they won't win without form or motivation, but they do not lose 17 minutes either.

this is getting ridiculous.

 

[del1962]

forget the 17 minutes though, when you are dropped from the main group in Bejing, there is no motivation to limit your losses,

why did he get dropped bad positioning in split, mechanical or just lack of form?

 

[darwin553]

look, no amount of imaginary fatigue is not gonna cancel the stars' ability to just ride along with the peloton, in the active recovery zone or just above it in the couple of hills that are tossed in.

the definition of star GT riders? that riding along the peloton is a walk in the park because of the huge physiological talent they possess. granted, they won't win without form or motivation, but they do not lose 17 minutes either.

this is getting ridiculous.

So getting overall best ranked UCI rider means nothing

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

Because the sceptics just cannot believe that two riders can put so much energy and effort into the races up to and including TdF and having nothing left for the rest of the season that it is actually in-line with how a clean rider should naturally perform over a season of racing

You also must not discount the fact some riders were peaking for this great race in China. It is just not fair. Ritchie just aint good in october, even high altitude trainingscamps in Colorado wont work then.

Oops.

Must be the jetlag or smog then.

Oh wait.

Or was it the motivation after that season of 70 racedays? Wow, 70 racedays. Incredible.

http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/StatsRaceDays.asp?year=2013

14. NED GESINK Robert 89

Baby boy Gesink did find motivation for this race.

If so, Portie has a flawed character. Imho.

Or, was David Lopez tha man for Sky in China? Nah, dont believe that. Just like last year at the Chrono des Nations Porte/SKY made a mockery out of the good willing organisators/fans. Yes, the Tour de Bejing is ridiculous but then send some riders who actually give a damn.

 

[Netserk]

Porte was their only chance to defend the WT team classification.

 

[42x16ss]

forget the 17 minutes though, when you are dropped from the main group in Bejing, there is no motivation to limit your losses,

why did he get dropped bad positioning in split, mechanical or just lack of form?

I suspect that it was just a case of the end-of-season CBF's that everyone is taking a little too seriously. Richie was probably just doing some riding to keep the sponsors happy during his interrupted flight home and letting more motivated riders get some glory while rolling with the autobus, no more, no less.

 

[the sceptic]

Its good to know that Porte and Froome are the only riders in the peloton that race and train hard. Everyone else have just been sitting on their asses all year long and waiting for the tour of Beijing.

 

[42x16ss]

Its good to know that Porte and Froome are the only riders in the peloton that race and train hard. Everyone else have just been sitting on their asses all year long and waiting for the tour of Beijing.

Indeed

I mean, look at first and second on final GC. Nobodies

 

[darwin553]

Its good to know that Porte and Froome are the only riders in the peloton that race and train hard. Everyone else have just been sitting on their asses all year long and waiting for the tour of Beijing.

I don't understand if all these sceptics believe Froome and Porte to be juiced up that they couldn't keep putting in the performances post TdF. Rodriquez did, Valverde did...seems to me the only logical reasoning is that they both were sandbagging ???

 

[McLovin]

Based on what

6 month superpeak without a hint of.exhaustion is now the sign of a clean athlete? Since no other rider in the world besides Wiggins froome and Porte and Contador have done it, does that mean they are the only 3 clean riders ever?

2007
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3rd La Flèche Wallonne
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And he was clean. Just ate the wrong BigMac.

 

[the sceptic]

I don't understand if all these sceptics believe Froome and Porte to be juiced up that they couldn't keep putting in the performances post TdF. Rodriquez did, Valverde did...seems to me the only logical reasoning is that they both were sandbagging ???

Maybe Valverde and Jrod have more natural talent, so they can still perform reasonably well even when they arent peaking.

 

[Ferminal]

2007
1st Stage 4 Volta a la Comunitat Valenciana
1st overall classification Vuelta a Castilla y León
1st overall classification Paris–Nice
1st overall classification Tour de France

2008
1st overall classification Vuelta a Castilla y León
1st overall classification Tour of the Basque Country
1st Jersey pink.svg overall classification Giro d'Italia
1st Jersey red.svg overall classification Vuelta a España

2009
1st overall classification Volta ao Algarve
1st overall classification Tour of the Basque Country
1st MaillotEspaña.PNG Spanish National Time Trial Championships
1st Jersey yellow.svg overall classification Tour de France
3rd overall classification Dauphiné Libéré
4th overall classification Paris–Nice

2010
1st overall classification Volta ao Algarve
1st overall classification Paris–Nice
1st overall classification Vuelta a Castilla y León
2nd overall classification Critérium du Dauphiné
3rd La Flèche Wallonne
1st overall classification Tour de France


And he was clean. Just ate the wrong BigMac.

2008 had weak fields.

 

[42x16ss]

2008 had weak fields.

Really? At the Giro Ricco and Sella were supercharged to the gills and Contador wiped the floor with them shortly after ending his beach holiday early. Bruzeghin, Pellizotti, Menchov and Di Luca weren't there to mess around either.

The Vuelta had Sastre, Mosquera, Valverde and Rodriguez. Not bad either. Both of those fields were quite decent compared to that years TdF, the only main guys he didn't have to race that year were Evans, Vandevelde and the Schlecks.

 

[thehog]

Really? At the Giro Ricco and Sella were supercharged to the gills and Contador wiped the floor with them shortly after ending his beach holiday early. Bruzeghin, Pellizotti, Menchov and Di Luca weren't there to mess around either.

The Vuelta had Sastre, Mosquera, Valverde and Rodriguez. Not bad either. Both of those fields were quite decent compared to that years TdF, the only main guys he didn't have to race that year were Evans, Vandevelde and the Schlecks.

Andy was doped high 2008. Did you see his Tour?

He was texting girls as he rode the cols!

He lost 9 on a hunger knock but was top 5 form at 23.

 

[42x16ss]

Oh yeah, Schleck Jr was on the good stuff '08 alright. The way he covered every single move on the Alpe with a cheeky little grin on his face was hilarious! I was on the Alpe that day and it looked like he was almost soft pedalling, unlike Sastre who was riding like his very life depended on it.

 

[Ferminal]

Really? At the Giro Ricco and Sella were supercharged to the gills and Contador wiped the floor with them shortly after ending his beach holiday early. Bruzeghin, Pellizotti, Menchov and Di Luca weren't there to mess around either.

The Vuelta had Sastre, Mosquera, Valverde and Rodriguez. Not bad either. Both of those fields were quite decent compared to that years TdF, the only main guys he didn't have to race that year were Evans, Vandevelde and the Schlecks.

I was only half serious. But Ricco easily accounted for Contador in the mountains. Menchov was flat (one eye on July) and Pellizotti a few bags short of 2009 levels who Bruseghin only got ahead of by virtue of that one good TT he did. The 2008 Giro is by far the "worst" performance of all Contador's victories. If CVV actually went hard for the Giro he would have won IMO, same for Menchov. By the Vuelta he was better, even though he barely beat Bottle (who was as alien as 2007) without time bonuses.

 

[peloton]

Really? At the Giro Ricco and Sella were supercharged to the gills and Contador wiped the floor with them shortly after ending his beach holiday early. Bruzeghin, Pellizotti, Menchov and Di Luca weren't there to mess around either.

Wiped the floor?
He lost time on every mountain stage and didn't win a stage at the -08 Giro.

Anyway, back to Porte, I reckon that he will do very well at the Giro next year.