Richie Porte - what do we know about him?

[MartinGT]

Yeah.. he sucked to a 7th at Giro, few days in Maglia Rosa as a neo pro and finishing 4th in Worlds ITT among other results.

If that is sucking, you clearly don't understand meaning of the word.

Oh dear. Bless you.

Smoke signals to any team really. Except that he should let his legs do the talking first and then let the mouth follow.

Porte has let his mouth run a few times this season hasnt he?

 

[DirtyWorks]

Yeah.. he sucked to a 7th at Giro, few days in Maglia Rosa as a neo pro and finishing 4th in Worlds ITT among other results.

If that is sucking, you clearly don't understand meaning of the word.

The lower-ranking race palmares certainly are no clue he would be destroying elites at both TT's and climbing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Tour_de_Langkawi

Tafi, the coach Porte is said to have worked with in Italy was only recently proven to have tested positive for EPO during his TdF years. I'll be fair though, recent news regarding Mapei/Verbruggen makes it hard to know how clean-ish Mapei was and the Tafi of today is.

Sniper's comment is very insightful. It's as if the Colombians/Spanish are irrelevant. Looks like another 6 months of Sky stage racing domination for the third year in a row is coming.

 

[the sceptic]

Yeah.. he sucked to a 7th at Giro, few days in Maglia Rosa as a neo pro and finishing 4th in Worlds ITT among other results.

If that is sucking, you clearly don't understand meaning of the word.

Losing 5 minutes on every MTF is pretty far from what he has been doing at sky.

And 2010 is in the clean era so Basso, Scarponi etc had already stopped doping.

 

[roundabout]

neo pro.

And 5 minutes on the Zoncolan/Mortirolo is not the same as 5 minutes on Ax 3 Domaines.

 

[42x16ss]

Didnt this happen at USPS?

And we all know how that used to work out.

Porte to pop + in 3,2,1...

 

[The Hitch]

Porte trolling the clinic

 

[Ferminal]

Less than six months until Zoncolan fistpump, get excited.

 

[the sceptic]

Just need Walsh' face photoshopped onto Baghdad Bob

 

[sittingbison]

Just need Walsh' face photoshopped onto Baghdad Bob

Jack of Clubs

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

neo pro.

And 5 minutes on the Zoncolan/Mortirolo is not the same as 5 minutes on Ax 3 Domaines.

Good point.

According to Aldo Sassi Basso did around 5.7w/k in 2010. Porte was six minutes down on him. Two minutes down on Dan Martin.

Lets see what Ritchie is capable of on the Zoncolan next year. But given his third week climbing abilities this year we know the answer to that allready.

Tassie Devil for the Giro win.

 

[Ferminal]

Good point, I wonder if he will be able to beat his 2010 time.

2014 the stage is five stages later than 2010 so expect that to take 5% off.

Although simple logic tells us that 2014 the road to Ovaro is easier with only one CATEGORY ONE and one CATEGORY TWO versus one CATEGORY ONE and two CATEGORY TWO in 2010. In 2010 the stage was 50km longer but that doesn't matter.

So say -5% for the point of the race, and +2% for one less CATEGORY TWO, therefore I conclude that he will need to have added at least 3% of marginal gains to equal his 2010 time.

 

[elduggo]

Less than six months until Zoncolan fistpump, get excited.

he has to survive the Irish stages first. After him nearly getting killed by marauding Irish on alpe d'huez I think he'll be lucky to come away with his life.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Porte trolling the clinic

Porte can easily drop another 3-4 kilos here.

Will he boss the field down under already? Dropping Slagter, Gerrans, Ulissi and Evans on Willunga?

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

Good point, I wonder if he will be able to beat his 2010 time.

2014 the stage is five stages later than 2010 so expect that to take 5% off.

Although simple logic tells us that 2014 the road to Ovaro is easier with only one CATEGORY ONE and one CATEGORY TWO versus one CATEGORY ONE and two CATEGORY TWO in 2010. In 2010 the stage was 50km longer but that doesn't matter.

So say -5% for the point of the race, and +2% for one less CATEGORY TWO, therefore I conclude that he will need to have added at least 3% of marginal gains to equal his 2010 time.

Agreed. Variables are important. We will see...

Yet, 2010, the year of the breakthroughs. Froomey losing 12 minutes on Monte Terminillo to CA Sorensen...

http://www.cyclingnews.com/races/giro-ditalia-2010/stage-8/results

Marginal gains.

 

[the sceptic]

Good point, I wonder if he will be able to beat his 2010 time.

2014 the stage is five stages later than 2010 so expect that to take 5% off.

Although simple logic tells us that 2014 the road to Ovaro is easier with only one CATEGORY ONE and one CATEGORY TWO versus one CATEGORY ONE and two CATEGORY TWO in 2010. In 2010 the stage was 50km longer but that doesn't matter.

So say -5% for the point of the race, and +2% for one less CATEGORY TWO, therefore I conclude that he will need to have added at least 3% of marginal gains to equal his 2010 time.

Dont forget that 2014 will have a tailwind that will give him 40 extra watts.

 

[roundabout]

Good point, I wonder if he will be able to beat his 2010 time.

2014 the stage is five stages later than 2010 so expect that to take 5% off.

Although simple logic tells us that 2014 the road to Ovaro is easier with only one CATEGORY ONE and one CATEGORY TWO versus one CATEGORY ONE and two CATEGORY TWO in 2010. In 2010 the stage was 50km longer but that doesn't matter.

So say -5% for the point of the race, and +2% for one less CATEGORY TWO, therefore I conclude that he will need to have added at least 3% of marginal gains to equal his 2010 time.

He was allegedly sick around that time in the Giro. Also he was struggling to follow the field on 3rd cat climbs in Paris-Nice just 2 months before, so extra weight or not, I doubt that he had the ideal preparation.

So let's say another +2% here.

 

[DirtyWorks]

Porte can easily drop another 3-4 kilos here.

Will he boss the field down under already? Dropping Slagter, Gerrans, Ulissi and Evans on Willunga?

That is SO 2013. 2014 will be 5-6 kilos and no loss of power. That fattie has nowhere to go but lose some weight AND gain super power!

Incredible how Sky was able to develop a succession of grand tour dominators over the course of maybe four years. That happened all the time in cycling prior to oxygen vector doping. ALL the time!!!

I'd also like to point out that 2-3% gains in elite human performance aren't marginal, they are extraordinary. This is Sky though, so beating doped times is more of that "Sky Scientific Processes" we heard so much about, not doping.

 

[darwin553]

I would be surprised if Porte doesn't win the Tour Down Under

 

[42x16ss]

I would be surprised if Porte doesn't win the Tour Down Under

The guys targeting the Giro probably should be looking to go well there.

Porte, Evans and any other Giro contenders will race to win, working to peak at TA or PN, then take a short break and build for Giro.

 

[thehog]

“A big goal for me is to do a great Giro – but I’ve been talking to [Team Sky Head of Performance Support] Tim Kerrison about coming out of it, and how do we get it right so that I can do the same role as I did for Chris last year at the Tour. I’d love to be up there throwing punches working for the team. That’s a big goal for me.

“If Chris wants to win the Tour again, which I think he does, then I want to be there.”

http://www.teamsky.com/article/0,27290,17553_9099695,00.html#eEMJHQIRqEyrlQ8Y.99

 

[Ferminal]

lol, sorry Tim, Purito and Valverde already mastered the double+ peak last year. Team Sky playing catchup.

 

[veganrob]

But...

Still early in the year but really, was there any doubt

 

[Ripper]

Like I said in the Sky thread -

Excellent work by Portie Porte. 15+ seconds in less than 2 km on a not so steep hill.

No problemo ...

 

[the sceptic]

Like I said in the Sky thread -

Excellent work by Portie Porte. 15+ seconds in less than 2 km on a not so steep hill.

No problemo ...

headwind too. Just wait until he peaks for the giro. Richie is going full *** this year.

vetooo ‏@ammattipyoraily

Gesink's avg. power output 6.9 - 7.0 W/kg on Old Willunga Hill. Porte, who is ~5 kg lighter than Gesink, likely at ~7.3 W/kg for 7:16. #TDU

Not bad richie not bad. What was the record from last year?

 

[DirtyWorks]

lol, sorry Tim, Purito and Valverde already mastered the double+ peak last year. Team Sky playing catchup.

Oh no. You seem to have forgotten the beatdown Sky did once a month for at least 6 months for two years running, with two different riders. This is the start of year THREE with a new Sky rider making the rest of the pro peloton look like the local cafe run.

Seems legit.