Richie Porte - what do we know about him?

[thehog]

Good ride by Porte, spent the week riding for Froome then loses his podium. Too funny

 

[blackcat]

LRP say it aint so

#acronyms
#initials

 

[msjett]

Good ride by Porte, spent the week riding for Froome then loses his podium. Too funny

Agree....nice weeks work for nothing.....

 

[Cycle Chic]

Porte would have podiumed if Froome hadnt overbalanced and ridden into him

 

[thehog]

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Porte would have podiumed if Froome hadnt overbalanced and ridden into him

No he wouldn't have. He was still blocked by two Sky riders ahead of Froome. His positioning was poor as he was riding behind Froome and not Martin.

 

[Ricco']

Who knows, maybe Froome promised him the victory in the Tour if LRP can keep up with him in the mountains in exchange for Porte's help in the Dauphiné.

BFFs for life!

 

[Ferminal]

That was pretty pathetic wasn't it. He didn't even have to attack Froome, just had to pace from Noyer. Bardet beats him in a sprint regardless and Martin does too if you let him rejoin your group. It's not huge because I'm sure he doesn't care, but maybe his team does...

 

[thehog]

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That was pretty pathetic wasn't it. He didn't even have to attack Froome, just had to pace from Noyer. Bardet beats him in a sprint regardless and Martin does too if you let him rejoin your group. It's not huge because I'm sure he doesn't care, but maybe his team does...

I doubt BMC team orders would have been "just follow Froome and help him out when required, ignore the podium". If I was TJVG I'd be worried that his teammate is going to ride for another team and not him.

LRP appears to have his bot mode stuck on Sky. Needs to be reconfigured.

 

[Rollthedice]

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Porte would have podiumed if Froome hadnt overbalanced and ridden into him

No he wouldn't have. He was still blocked by two Sky riders ahead of Froome. His positioning was poor as he was riding behind Froome and not Martin.

Richie's pal, Dawg says:

"Unfortunately, when the sprint started, myself and Richie decided to try to pass on the right, but my teammates were trying to get out of the way for the sprint and they blocked myself and Richie. I almost crashed. I didn't have my hands on the brakes – I was trying to go into a sprint. It was bad miscommunication between me and my teammates."

 

[Fergoose]

Interesting to see that, just like Rodgers when he left Sky to join Tinkoff-Saxo, Porte is able to retain or even improve his performance after leaving Sky. Doesn't quite fit in with suggestions that Sky dope more or are better at doping, or are protected more than their competitors.

A week into the TdF and I think my point above is still highly valid when comparing Sky's performance to other teams. Still absolutely no indication that Porte's level has dropped since he moved and he remains on track for his best ever TdF finish despite clearly not being team leader given how much he had to keep looking over his shoulder for TJVG.

We'll know better after the Alps as none of the Pyrenees stages had particularly challenging final kms.

 

[veganrob]

Interesting to see that, just like Rodgers when he left Sky to join Tinkoff-Saxo, Porte is able to retain or even improve his performance after leaving Sky. Doesn't quite fit in with suggestions that Sky dope more or are better at doping, or are protected more than their competitors.

A week into the TdF and I think my point above is still highly valid when comparing Sky's performance to other teams. Still absolutely no indication that Porte's level has dropped since he moved and he remains on track for his best ever TdF finish despite clearly not being team leader given how much he had to keep looking over his shoulder for TJVG.

We'll know better after the Alps as none of the Pyrenees stages had particularly challenging final kms.

it looked to me like LRP was looking over his shoulder to make sure Froome was still with him

 

[sniper]

Interesting to see that, just like Rodgers when he left Sky to join Tinkoff-Saxo, Porte is able to retain or even improve his performance after leaving Sky. Doesn't quite fit in with suggestions that Sky dope more or are better at doping, or are protected more than their competitors.

A week into the TdF and I think my point above is still highly valid when comparing Sky's performance to other teams. Still absolutely no indication that Porte's level has dropped since he moved and he remains on track for his best ever TdF finish despite clearly not being team leader given how much he had to keep looking over his shoulder for TJVG.

We'll know better after the Alps as none of the Pyrenees stages had particularly challenging final kms.

fyi, on the previous pages your point got completely taken apart.
basically there's nothing left of your point, regardless how well porte rides this year.

 

[thehog]

Interesting to see that, just like Rodgers when he left Sky to join Tinkoff-Saxo, Porte is able to retain or even improve his performance after leaving Sky. Doesn't quite fit in with suggestions that Sky dope more or are better at doping, or are protected more than their competitors.

A week into the TdF and I think my point above is still highly valid when comparing Sky's performance to other teams. Still absolutely no indication that Porte's level has dropped since he moved and he remains on track for his best ever TdF finish despite clearly not being team leader given how much he had to keep looking over his shoulder for TJVG.

We'll know better after the Alps as none of the Pyrenees stages had particularly challenging final kms.

it looked to me like LRP was looking over his shoulder to make sure Froome was still with him

Thought the same. Porte potentially could have put time into Froome but he didn't want to drop him. I believe he has become Andy Shleck.

 

[BYOP88]

Interesting to see that, just like Rodgers when he left Sky to join Tinkoff-Saxo, Porte is able to retain or even improve his performance after leaving Sky. Doesn't quite fit in with suggestions that Sky dope more or are better at doping, or are protected more than their competitors.

A week into the TdF and I think my point above is still highly valid when comparing Sky's performance to other teams. Still absolutely no indication that Porte's level has dropped since he moved and he remains on track for his best ever TdF finish despite clearly not being team leader given how much he had to keep looking over his shoulder for TJVG.

We'll know better after the Alps as none of the Pyrenees stages had particularly challenging final kms.

it looked to me like LRP was looking over his shoulder to make sure Froome was still with him

Thought the same. Porte potentially could have put time into Froome but he didn't want to drop him. I believe he has become Andy Shleck.

He's hoping that he can be godfather to the Froome sprog. Not going to get that roll if he robs Froome of TdF glory.

 

[Fergoose]

fyi, on the previous pages your point got completely taken apart.
basically there's nothing left of your point, regardless how well porte rides this year.

I think we must have different interpretations of what constitutes a half decent rebuttal of an argument. So to you mind even if Porte podiums the TdF that would still be evidence of Sky having a superior doping regime as alleged by many in the clinic? Even if all evidence pointed to the contrary?

The point of my repost was to indicate that this was yet another significant landmark in uncovering that evidence and putting forward the alternative scenario that Sky's domestiques are strongest because they pay the most and hire the best. In that scenario, any assumption that Porte is doping, across multiple teams and producing a similar standard becomes highly questionable.

 

[movingtarget]

Interesting to see that, just like Rodgers when he left Sky to join Tinkoff-Saxo, Porte is able to retain or even improve his performance after leaving Sky. Doesn't quite fit in with suggestions that Sky dope more or are better at doping, or are protected more than their competitors.

A week into the TdF and I think my point above is still highly valid when comparing Sky's performance to other teams. Still absolutely no indication that Porte's level has dropped since he moved and he remains on track for his best ever TdF finish despite clearly not being team leader given how much he had to keep looking over his shoulder for TJVG.

We'll know better after the Alps as none of the Pyrenees stages had particularly challenging final kms.

it looked to me like LRP was looking over his shoulder to make sure Froome was still with him

Thought the same. Porte potentially could have put time into Froome but he didn't want to drop him. I believe he has become Andy Shleck.

Martin said there was a headwind probably from the storm that broke just before the finish but Porte is the one that is two minutes down and even if he did not drop Froome and Quintana he would have put more time into most of the other top 10 riders. Strange ride. He was obviously strong. Would be funny if he went android on Ventoux with Froome with Quintana watching another Tour slipping away.

 

[Nick C.]

He looked like he was Froome's domestique. He should have just left it to Froome to ride on the front if he couldn't escape. But hey BMC has a real shot at having two riders finish in the top seven, woo hoo!

 

[BYOP88]

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He looked like he was Froome's domestique. He should have just left it to Froome to ride on the front if he couldn't escape. But hey BMC has a real shot at having two riders finish in the top seven, woo hoo!

I want this forum to have a like button

 

[sniper]

fyi, on the previous pages your point got completely taken apart.
basically there's nothing left of your point, regardless how well porte rides this year.

I think we must have different interpretations of what constitutes a half decent rebuttal of an argument. So to you mind even if Porte podiums the TdF that would still be evidence of Sky having a superior doping regime as alleged by many in the clinic? Even if all evidence pointed to the contrary?

The point of my repost was to indicate that this was yet another significant landmark in uncovering that evidence and putting forward the alternative scenario that Sky's domestiques are strongest because they pay the most and hire the best. In that scenario, any assumption that Porte is doping, across multiple teams and producing a similar standard becomes highly questionable.

not sure what your point is wrt Porte, tbh.
you think he was ever clean?
well look at his palmares in '08 (australia) and '09 (italy) and think twice.

Porte here pictured with his self-declared hero and mentor, proven doper Andrea Tafi.

Porte is now with Tafi's buddy Max Sciandri at BMC, Sciandri of course the co-founder of BC's u-23 setup in Quarrata, Tuscany, in 2005/6.
Don't wanna burst anyone's bubble, but this is one incestuous lot of dopers and facilitators, and Porte's been right there in the center of the action.
(On a side, guess who Dave and Max turned to when they needed help to get settled in Tuscany? Indeed, AIS's Shane Bannan. Introduced them straight to Sassi.)

 

[blackcat]

fyi, on the previous pages your point got completely taken apart.
basically there's nothing left of your point, regardless how well porte rides this year.

I think we must have different interpretations of what constitutes a half decent rebuttal of an argument. So to you mind even if Porte podiums the TdF that would still be evidence of Sky having a superior doping regime as alleged by many in the clinic? Even if all evidence pointed to the contrary?

The point of my repost was to indicate that this was yet another significant landmark in uncovering that evidence and putting forward the alternative scenario that Sky's domestiques are strongest because they pay the most and hire the best. In that scenario, any assumption that Porte is doping, across multiple teams and producing a similar standard becomes highly questionable.

not sure what your point is wrt Porte, tbh.
you think he was ever clean?
well look at his palmares in '08 (australia) and '09 (italy) and think twice.

Porte here pictured with his self-declared hero and mentor, proven doper Andrea Tafi.

Porte is now with Tafi's buddy Max Sciandri at BMC, Sciandri of course the co-founder of BC's u-23 setup in Quarrata, Tuscany, in 2005/6.
Don't wanna burst anyone's bubble, but this is one incestuous lot of dopers and facilitators, and Porte's been right there in the center of the action.
(On a side, guess who Dave and Max turned to when they needed help to get settled in Tuscany? Indeed, AIS's Shane Bannan. Introduced them straight to Sassi.)

LRP looks about 10lbs heavier there, not too L in LRP

 

[Cookster15]

fyi, on the previous pages your point got completely taken apart.
basically there's nothing left of your point, regardless how well porte rides this year.

I think we must have different interpretations of what constitutes a half decent rebuttal of an argument. So to you mind even if Porte podiums the TdF that would still be evidence of Sky having a superior doping regime as alleged by many in the clinic? Even if all evidence pointed to the contrary?

The point of my repost was to indicate that this was yet another significant landmark in uncovering that evidence and putting forward the alternative scenario that Sky's domestiques are strongest because they pay the most and hire the best. In that scenario, any assumption that Porte is doping, across multiple teams and producing a similar standard becomes highly questionable.

not sure what your point is wrt Porte, tbh.
you think he was ever clean?
well look at his palmares in '08 (australia) and '09 (italy) and think twice.

Porte here pictured with his self-declared hero and mentor, proven doper Andrea Tafi.

Porte is now with Tafi's buddy Max Sciandri at BMC, Sciandri of course the co-founder of BC's u-23 setup in Quarrata, Tuscany, in 2005/6.
Don't wanna burst anyone's bubble, but this is one incestuous lot of dopers and facilitators, and Porte's been right there in the center of the action.
(On a side, guess who Dave and Max turned to when they needed help to get settled in Tuscany? Indeed, AIS's Shane Bannan. Introduced them straight to Sassi.)

LRP looks about 10lbs heavier there, not too L in LRP

Taffi was riding Pro between 1989 and 2005. Sciandri - almost the same years. Both right in the middle of the EPO / Armstrong era. That era was dominated by doping so perhaps its best to avoid consulting any ex pros who rode then as mud might stick 20 years later on cycling forums? Bjarne Riis anyone?
So LRP is doping? Who cares, this is the clinic and we all know they all dope

What I find strange is the chatter on this forum about Porte's racing tactics with Froome that are probably best posted in the "normal" forum. It comes across to be as some think he is less worthy than others. Well the doubters can all rest easy as soon he'll have his obligatory bad day, lose 30 minutes in the auto bus and we can go back to cheering more worthy guys like Froome, Quintana, Bardet, Valverde etc.

As for those tactics with Richie's propensity to self destruct mentally In Grand Tours when team leader him riding conservatively for the first two weeks is no surprise at all It's called self doubt. Better to stick with the benchmark and see what happens when the cards fall.

 

[sniper]

Richard, time to show you're not Froome's ***

 

[thehog]

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Richard, time to show you're not Froome's ***

He just did, took him down!

 

[Merckx index]

Whatever you think of Richie, he is flat out the unluckiest rider I've even seen. The Giro last year. The flat tire in this Tour, and now this. He was ahead of Froome, putting major time in Quintana and his other rivals, about to shoot up the GC, and now all that's gone.

 

[Saint Unix]

Where's the picture of his face pasted across the camera lens? Despite the controversy of this scandal, that made me laugh a bit.