Richmond 2015 World Championships, Sep 19-27

[SeriousSam]

GVA would probably win more than Eddy in Eddy's era.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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I don't understand why he doesn't stitch the sandpaper to his pants (downwards) instead of like this. Seems way less painful with the same effect.

I think it wouldn't have the same effect, the sandpaper on the saddle prevents the lycra on the bibs sliding off, whereas sandpaper on the bibs wouldn't stop the sliding because the saddle is too smooth I think, iow the sandpaper won't have any grip on the saddle.

 

[Bushman]

So who will be the ones to look out for in the u23 race? I reckon Doull will be really strong, looks to be in terrific shape. Moscon could do nice, how is he after his dnf in Avenir?

The Danes will be really strong too I think with Würtz, Kamp and Kragh all likely to feature.

 

[kanari]

There is something funny about all this talk about getting "rid of" Degenkolb and Kristoff. It seems that people still don't get that these two guys are two of the toughest classics riders out there at the moment. They won in PR and RVV because they were the strongest rider in the race that day, not because they managed to barely hold on to a sprint.

 

[hrotha]

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There is something funny about all this talk about getting "rid of" Degenkolb and Kristoff. It seems that people still don't get that these two guys are two of the toughest classics riders out there at the moment. They won in PR and RVV because they were the strongest rider in the race that day, not because they managed to barely hold on to a sprint.

Kristoff at RvV, yes. Degenkolb at PR, nope. He had no trouble following wheels, but that's all he did, and he didn't show to be the strongest. Still though, that's largely irrelevant; everybody else does HAVE to drop them if they want to have a chance, no matter how hard that actually is.

 

[kanari]

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[/quote]Kristoff at RvV, yes. Degenkolb at PR, nope. He had no trouble following wheels, but that's all he did, and he didn't show to be the strongest. Still though, that's largely irrelevant; everybody else does HAVE to drop them if they want to have a chance, no matter how hard that actually is.[/quote]

You are absolutely right about that of course. I guess I'm just trying to point out that for one of these two to win it doesn't necessarily need to come from a reduced bunch sprint scenario.

 

[Jagartrott]

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Kristoff at RvV, yes. Degenkolb at PR, nope. He had no trouble following wheels, but that's all he did, and he didn't show to be the strongest. Still though, that's largely irrelevant; everybody else does HAVE to drop them if they want to have a chance, no matter how hard that actually is.

Degenkolb did close a big gap in a quite impressive way - alone.

 

[SeriousSam]

Good to see that women's cycling is getting some mainstream coverage. Here at the BBC:

Wiggins, Froome and Vos make a good case for the mantle of world's best cyclist, but there is a new pretender to the title.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/cycling/

What does everyone think. Is Pauline the world's best cyclist, edging out Froome, Wiggins and Vos?

 

[jaylew]

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Good to see that women's cycling is getting some mainstream coverage. Here at the BBC:

Wiggins, Froome and Vos make a good case for the mantle of world's best cyclist, but there is a new pretender to the title.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/cycling/

What does everyone think. Is Pauline the world's best cyclist, edging out Froome, Wiggins and Vos?

Everything about that question is ridiculous.

 

[ciranda]

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Modvind could do nice, how is he after his dnf in Avenir?

The Danes will be really strong too I think with Würtz, Kamp and Kragh all likely to feature.

I guess you mean Moscon but that would have been the greatest name for a cyclist ever.

He is one of the favorites for sure but there could be some surprises. For the danish team I hope for Alexander Kamp who apparently don't have a contract w a big team yet.

 

[dicanio_michael]

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Kristoff at RvV, yes. Degenkolb at PR, nope. He had no trouble following wheels, but that's all he did, and he didn't show to be the strongest. Still though, that's largely irrelevant; everybody else does HAVE to drop them if they want to have a chance, no matter how hard that actually is.

You are absolutely right about that of course. I guess I'm just trying to point out that for one of these two to win it doesn't necessarily need to come from a reduced bunch sprint scenario.

I think most people just hate a sprinter to win a classic in general. Not because they are Degenkolb or Kristoff. We want someone brave enough to attack and get rewarded in a one day race, but not wait for a bunch sprint.

If they attack and win, I don't mind they become world champion.

 

[Kwibus]

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Kristoff at RvV, yes. Degenkolb at PR, nope. He had no trouble following wheels, but that's all he did, and he didn't show to be the strongest. Still though, that's largely irrelevant; everybody else does HAVE to drop them if they want to have a chance, no matter how hard that actually is.

Degenkolb did close a big gap in a quite impressive way - alone.

Indeed. When he had to stop following wheels he did and he did it in quite an impressive way. Closing (30secs?) alone to GVA and Lampaert. He was probably atleast one of the strongest that day.
He needs to realise though that he is capable to putting the hammer down himself and that he shouldn't blindly rely on his sprint. In the TdF that didn't bring him anywhere. Boonen doesn't always wait for the sprint as well...

 

[Kwibus]

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Kristoff at RvV, yes. Degenkolb at PR, nope. He had no trouble following wheels, but that's all he did, and he didn't show to be the strongest. Still though, that's largely irrelevant; everybody else does HAVE to drop them if they want to have a chance, no matter how hard that actually is.

You are absolutely right about that of course. I guess I'm just trying to point out that for one of these two to win it doesn't necessarily need to come from a reduced bunch sprint scenario.

I think most people just hate a sprinter to win a classic in general. Not because they are Degenkolb or Kristoff. We want someone brave enough to attack and get rewarded in a one day race, but not wait for a bunch sprint.

If they attack and win, I don't mind they become world champion.

If Kristoff wins in a way he won RVV then I don't have a problem with him winning, but since he's telling everyone that he's hoping for a bunch sprint I don't want him to win.

 

[bassano]

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Good to see that women's cycling is getting some mainstream coverage. Here at the BBC:

Wiggins, Froome and Vos make a good case for the mantle of world's best cyclist, but there is a new pretender to the title.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/cycling/

What does everyone think. Is Pauline the world's best cyclist, edging out Froome, Wiggins and Vos?

Everything about that question is ridiculous.

of course, she is same mistake as brochard as world champion
equally ridiculous is say that froome of wiggins could have something common with best cyclist by winning only TDF or some TT

 

[Bushman]

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Modvind could do nice, how is he after his dnf in Avenir?

The Danes will be really strong too I think with Würtz, Kamp and Kragh all likely to feature.

I guess you mean Moscon but that would have been the greatest name for a cyclist ever.

He is one of the favorites for sure but there could be some surprises. For the danish team I hope for Alexander Kamp who apparently don't have a contract w a big team yet.

Damn autocorrect.

Kamp could do it on a great day, but I feel like you never know with him. Seems a bit hit or miss, sometimes.

 

[Supimilian]

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If Kristoff wins in a way he won RVV then I don't have a problem with him winning, but since he's telling everyone that he's hoping for a bunch sprint I don't want him to win.

Don't worry, Edvald's got this

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

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There is something funny about all this talk about getting "rid of" Degenkolb and Kristoff. It seems that people still don't get that these two guys are two of the toughest classics riders out there at the moment. They won in PR and RVV because they were the strongest rider in the race that day, not because they managed to barely hold on to a sprint.

Kristoff at RvV, yes. Degenkolb at PR, nope. He had no trouble following wheels, but that's all he did, and he didn't show to be the strongest. Still though, that's largely irrelevant; everybody else does HAVE to drop them if they want to have a chance, no matter how hard that actually is.

I have this the other way around, Kristoff was smart following Terpstra and got dragged to the line, without doing much but being smart, which is great, but still following a wheel. Degenkolb on the other hand was always in the perfect position on the cobbles at PR, which is in itself a strong achievement, and once he had to be active, attacked and closed down the essential gap alone. After that he didn't stop working, and after the group regained numbers played it smart. And rightly so.

 

[Supimilian]

Both Kristoff and Degenkolb were the strongest rider in RvV and PR respectively. Kristoff could have dropped Terpstra up Paterberg the last time, but would have been in trouble against the chasers. He did like 75% of the work from there on in.
Degenkolb actually made the race making moves from the favorite group, no way that was an undeserved win.

 

[jens_attacks]

wait wut? kristoff was following terpstra? i think i saw another race then lol.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

so we are broadcasting the u23 with 117km to go....


Anyway love the cobbles.

 

[Supimilian]

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wait wut? kristoff was following terpstra? i think i saw another race then lol.

Is there a problem?

 

[Velolover2]

Isn't there more cobbles than just on the climbs?

The route on Zwift indicates that there are city cobbles for a good part of the route. Could perhaps be another place to attack.

 

[Pricey_sky]

Wish they'd move those barriers in so they can't ride along the gutter on the cobbled climb.

 

[Pricey_sky]

Riders having to get off and push, Love it!

 

[TomLPC]

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Wish they'd move those barriers in so they can't ride along the gutter on the cobbled climb.

https://41.media.tumblr.com/ccf34385d760630e86b435058172a1af/tumblr_nkmmxvwTfj1ropreyo1_1280.jpg

On the plus side, people are running with their bikes, this looks like a complete shitstorm, excellent news.