Koronin said:
bambino said:
Koronin said:
Please tell me what Thomas and Froome did outside of the Giro, Tour and Dauphine? I'm sorry but I do NOT put any of those races over any of the other WT races on the calendar. To me the Tour ranks well below most of the other WT races. Heck I personally put a few continental races over the Tour just because I happen to like them better.
As Tobydawq said Valverde was dominant in the first 3 months of the season. Possibly even more dominant than Quickstep as a team were at that point in the season. No one else in the peloton can say that for any time frame.
Your prestige to Tour is your personal opinion which you are entitled. I just don't think many here agrees on that. Especially when it actually fits to your biased agenda.
I don't like Yates, Thomas nor Froome. But I still don't have a problem to admit they were the Top 3.
I do have Yates in my top 3 but Froome and Thomas aren't even close as they did nothing outside of those 3 races. Yes I do value the classics more than the GTs. To me the GTs should not hold anymore weight and esp not the Tour. To me consistency throughout the season is much much more important which is why I rank Sagan very high on my list even if he didn't have the season this year he had last year.
I kind of agree with this but besides the point you make of the whole season I rank the start list, the competition they face in big races. I mean, to me, Yates in the Giro against froome+Dumo was better than his victory at Vuelta..
Bala was awesome in the beginning of the year but outside Bianche+FW was not against lots of heavy contenders. His world was the hi light but his pursuit of that gold, the desire to keep going after, got more weight on my scale. Even Nibali had excellent performances in bigger races: MSR, was in the winning move at Flandres(!?), was going good in the Tour plus his spectacular came back at end of the season was top 5 to me .
Froome+Thomas shine 2-3 months out of the year. I agree those are very very big wins but that was it. Froome got the Tour podium because of the team(Bernal)..
This year is difficult to rank but i voted Dumo. 2 big GT podiums against the best, good Bianche, very good at L-B-L, plus silver ITT worlds and a unexpected 4th(!!) at worlds. So all year around...
but thats me