Rider(s) to watch in 2011

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The Hitch said:
So no one else here thinks much of Niemiec and Gadret:(

I guess ill be the only one laughing when John Gadret gets a top 10 in the Tour with a stage win then.:)

If that were the case, I hope Roche gets a chance to screw him on a wheel change just before Paris.
 
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Waterloo Sunrise said:
If that were the case, I hope Roche gets a chance to screw him on a wheel change just before Paris.

For such a situation, Roche would need to be up there. On Vuelta performance he might tbf but i think Gadret will be up there with the gc guys, not down there with Roche ;)
 
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auscyclefan94 said:
Who will be the rider(s) we should all keep an eye on who you are expecting a big year from? Try to go a bit outside the square, and PLEASE don't say TGBM unless you really mean it.

I will try then, but I will definately keep an eye on the top guns.

I will pay speciel attention to Boonen and Haussler, why? It's always interesting to follow great riders in their fight back after recovering on injuries and possibly stupid behaviour.

Other than that... Well I always follow the danish riders very closely. Sadly there's not that much of interest comming out. The golden boy Guldhammer has been hammered back to continental level, but of course Mads Christensen will rejoin the pro ranks, but he will not do anything in the major races I'm certain.

One more thing, I will keep an eye on Sagan the kid is clearly a massive talent, but will he grow or stall?
 
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The Hitch said:
So no one else here thinks much of Niemiec and Gadret:(

I guess ill be the only one laughing when John Gadret gets a top 10 in the Tour with a stage win then.:)

Gadret seemed to get better as time went on in the Giro. I think Ag2r have said he is being aimed at it next year. With a mountainous course maybe he can do well, especially if some big names give it a miss.
 
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Frank Schleck - Lets see what would have happened had he carried that Tds form into the grandady of them all.

Again you are overrating Fränk Schleck. In the TDS he lost 1'20 on the Albulapass to Gesink (became 42s at the finish). It was calculated by Cyclismag later that Gesink had about the same level in the Tour de France as in the Tour de Suisse (maybe slightly less). And he was no way near A.Schleck level.
So how the hell is Fränky in TDS form going to compete then? (being already worse)

Stop overrating Fränky boy. jeesj
 
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Dekker_Tifosi said:
Again you are overrating Fränk Schleck. In the TDS he lost 1'20 on the Albulapass to Gesink (became 42s at the finish). It was calculated by Cyclismag later that Gesink had about the same level in the Tour de France as in the Tour de Suisse (maybe slightly less). And he was no way near A.Schleck level.
So how the hell is Fränky in TDS form going to compete then? (being already worse)

Stop overrating Fränky boy. jeesj

This is probably the first time i have made any positive comment about Frank Schlec, so why are you telling me to stop overating him?

And im not saying he would win the Tour or anything. But hes won Amstel Gold and Alpe d huez, and i think Schlecks have found even higher clinic help, so no reason to believe he wouldnt be of huge help to Andy in the Tour.
 
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I would love to see Tommy V's face plastered on the front pages, so too Fredrigo and Machado, so too Txarukka (spelling?) Anton and I'd still like to see Garzelli rattle up the Strade and possibly win a stage.
I'd like to see Hushoft win PR, Evans win a GT, and some stage wins from Roache.
Bring on the new kids from far flung French teams, so too Italian and Spanish kids that have something to prove.
I want, also, to see Boonan kick like a mule, like he used too.
And I want to see more comedic moments..
 
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The Hitch said:
This is probably the first time i have made any positive comment about Frank Schlec, so why are you telling me to stop overating him?

And im not saying he would win the Tour or anything. But hes won Amstel Gold and Alpe d huez, and i think Schlecks have found even higher clinic help, so no reason to believe he wouldnt be of huge help to Andy in the Tour.
Alpe d'Huez was a long breakaway.

Is Brice Feillu a great climber because he won a mountain stage that way?

ffs
 
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Dekker_Tifosi said:
Alpe d'Huez was a long breakaway.

Is Brice Feillu a great climber because he won a mountain stage that way?

ffs

You dont think Frank Schleck will be of any help to his brother Andy in the Tour?

Yeah, im sure hes going to do a wiggins, lance Cadel 2010 and finish in 25th :rolleyes:

And to pretend he cant climb because he won Alpe from a breakaway. Ok forget that, does Grand Bornard 2009 not mean anything to you? Only person to be able to stay with Al and Andy

ffs ;)
 
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Hitch, Niemiec from me was an oversight, definitely looking forward to him in the Giro. I have a sneaky suspicion he will win the KOM, and it will be one of those like Piepoli in '07 where he just collects and collects; not like Sella in '08 or Rujano in '05, where they dominated, but he'll make the most of where the climbs are to take them. He does love to collect mountains points.
 
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Libertine Seguros said:
Hitch, Niemiec from me was an oversight, definitely looking forward to him in the Giro. I have a sneaky suspicion he will win the KOM, and it will be one of those like Piepoli in '07 where he just collects and collects; not like Sella in '08 or Rujano in '05, where they dominated, but he'll make the most of where the climbs are to take them. He does love to collect mountains points.

The problem is hes on the team with the favourite. For other teams, a kom would be a great thing to get from the Giro, but for Lampre ISD, Michelle Scarponi is what it is all about. Will they let one of their riders focus on something else when there is so much at stake. I doubt it. I think he might play the roll Szmyd plays for Liqui. Super domestique.
 
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The Hitch said:
The problem is hes on the team with the favourite. For other teams, a kom would be a great thing to get from the Giro, but for Lampre ISD, Michelle Scarponi is what it is all about. Will they let one of their riders focus on something else when there is so much at stake. I doubt it. I think he might play the roll Szmyd plays for Liqui. Super domestique.

So was Piepoli in 2007 - Simoni AND Riccò on his team. I reckon Kashechkin or Cunego can take the position as Scarponi's helper in many stages, giving Niemiec the chance to have a free role as long as he's willing to sacrifice and be the sacrificial lamb on some of the big climbs. He could always do the Piepoli role - if he's in anything like the form he had in 2009.

The stage 2 GPM is 30km from the end; with the sprinters' teams chasing, it's possible they could bring the break back; CSF contributed to such things happening in order that Emanuele Sella could sprint to the top of the mountains in the early days of the '08 Giro. I definitely see him taking the Madonna delle Grazie climb in stage 3, just 9km out, perfect for the kind of rider he is. I see him fighting for Montenero in stage 4 too, 8.8km from home. He may even get into the break in stage 5 - unlikely as it seems, but then Sella and Rujano were allowed into week 1 breaks in '08 and '05 too. Three sets of climbs there, his kind of profile looking back on Settimana Lombarda, Coppi e Bartali and Trentino. Montevergine in stage 7 is usually a sprint from the select group, and Niemiec should be able to make that, though only 5 will score and he'll probably have to lead Scarponi out. If he loses time in stage 9 (which he probably will do, soft-pedalling in after doing his job for Scarponi) he may well attack in stage 11, with several climbs. This is the kind of stage where a big break of 15-20 or more gets away, and so he won't have to sacrifice himself too much to participate, especially if Scarponi is leading. He can pick up a few cat2 and 3 climbs there. He could well be sent up the road in order to potentially drop back for Scarponi in the Zonc stage, which would give him three early lower category climbs to compete for before the big events of Monte Crostis and Monte Zoncolan. I expect things to have thinned out a lot before the latter climbs on stage 15 too, which means there may be points available at some of the later climbs.

Even if he doesn't score in the last five stages, there's the chance for about 50 or so points even without a big break in a huge points-paying stage like stage 15. Matthew Lloyd won the Giro KOM with 56 points this year, and Fabian Wegmann did the same in 2004. David Moncoutié won the Vuelta's KOM - scored on the same system now - with just 51.
 
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- Heinrich Haussler because it'll be the justice;
- Maxime Monfort and Niki Terpstra because they changed their teams and I think it's right decision;
- Przemyslaw Niemiec because Miche was below his level;
- Igor Anton, Riccardo Ricco and Michele Scarponi because one of them will win the greatest GT;
- John Degenkolb because one day he'll become faster than Cavendish;
- All Vacansoleil guys because they just have reached a new level, it's great chance for them;
- Daniel Oss because... because... hmmm... :confused: ... because he likes AC/DC :)
 
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Libertine Seguros said:
The stage 2 GPM is 30km from the end; with the sprinters' teams chasing, it's possible they could bring the break back; CSF contributed to such things happening in order that Emanuele Sella could sprint to the top of the mountains in the early days of the '08 Giro. I definitely see him taking the Madonna delle Grazie climb in stage 3, just 9km out, perfect for the kind of rider he is. I see him fighting for Montenero in stage 4 too, 8.8km from home. He may even get into the break in stage 5 - unlikely as it seems, but then Sella and Rujano were allowed into week 1 breaks in '08 and '05 too. Three sets of climbs there, his kind of profile looking back on Settimana Lombarda, Coppi e Bartali and Trentino. Montevergine in stage 7 is usually a sprint from the select group, and Niemiec should be able to make that, though only 5 will score and he'll probably have to lead Scarponi out. If he loses time in stage 9 (which he probably will do, soft-pedalling in after doing his job for Scarponi) he may well attack in stage 11, with several climbs. This is the kind of stage where a big break of 15-20 or more gets away, and so he won't have to sacrifice himself too much to participate, especially if Scarponi is leading. He can pick up a few cat2 and 3 climbs there. He could well be sent up the road in order to potentially drop back for Scarponi in the Zonc stage, which would give him three early lower category climbs to compete for before the big events of Monte Crostis and Monte Zoncolan. I expect things to have thinned out a lot before the latter climbs on stage 15 too, which means there may be points available at some of the later climbs.

Forget everything else. Ronde. Roubaix. Liege, the lot. Reading this, i just cant wait for the Giro.:)
 
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Dekker_Tifosi said:
Alpe d'Huez was a long breakaway.

Is Brice Feillu a great climber because he won a mountain stage that way?

ffs

Granted, but he was awesome at Le Grand Bornand, only Contador and Andy were at his level
 
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Christian said:
Granted, but he was awesome at Le Grand Bornand, only Contador and Andy were at his level
So was Klöden, for a long time. That was just a weird stage, and a weird Tour. Klöden, Armstrong, Wiggins... have these guys gotten so much worse in one year, or was the level of racing at that Tour just not particularly high?
 
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Libertine Seguros said:
I reckon Kashechkin or Cunego can take the position as Scarponi's helper in many stages, giving Niemiec the chance to have a free role as long as he's willing to sacrifice and be the sacrificial lamb on some of the big climbs.
Cunego will miss Giro-2011 . Next year he will be focused on classics and tour de france .
 
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Kvinto said:
- Przemyslaw Niemiec because Miche was below his level;

Przemyslaw Niemiec definetly has potential to win KOM jersey , but i think he would not do it because he will help Scarponi in mountains . Winning KOM jersey its long time process , and Niemiec has very good climbing abilities , it will be more usefull to a team if he will help Scarponi . Instead of KOM jersey Lampre-ISD can give him an opportunity to win a stage . I think he can win stage on Giro .

Just imagine Lampre-ISD Giro line-up : Scarponi , Marzanno , Kashechkin , Niemiec , Bertagnolli , and may be Di Luca (there are rumors that he will be in Lampre-ISD)
 
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eljimberino said:
Lloyd had a good 2010. Seems more consistent than say Gerrans. If Lloyd can do better than last year, he'll have a corker.

In this month's Cycle Sport magazine, Aldo Sassi (his coach) says that Lloyd has the physical ability to come top 3 in the Giro, but not the mental side. If he can get that sorted, then who knows.


Also, having read Cycle Sport, I'll chuck Simon Spilak into the mix as one to watch.
 
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The Hitch said:
You dont think Frank Schleck will be of any help to his brother Andy in the Tour?

Yeah, im sure hes going to do a wiggins, lance Cadel 2010 and finish in 25th :rolleyes:

And to pretend he cant climb because he won Alpe from a breakaway. Ok forget that, does Grand Bornard 2009 not mean anything to you? Only person to be able to stay with Al and Andy

ffs ;)

2009, the year Andy and Alberto almost went backwards because they had slow teammates in the group behind that they (at least Andy) wanted on the podium.
Yeah right. That year shouldn't even count with Wiggins even ending in frnt of franky boy
 
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Dekker_Tifosi said:
2009, the year Andy and Alberto almost went backwards because they had slow teammates in the group behind that they (at least Andy) wanted on the podium.
Yeah right. That year shouldn't even count with Wiggins even ending in frnt of franky boy

So where will he finish then? 10th? 20th? 25th :eek:?