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Is it? I thought a fluke also meant that it is achieved by luck rather than skill?
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No. A fluke doesn’t predict future success, most unexpected results do (somewhat).
Bota Lume’s 2020 Giro was unexpected, but not a fluke.
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For some it was an unexpected result sure, but for the top 2 it definitely looks like a fluke.
They didn't end up top 2 because of luck, which is the definition of a fluke, but rather because they were the 2 strongest in that Giro. A guy like Pereiro winning the Tour, that was a fluke. Not this.
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If it's an insane outlier in their results in a COVID wrecked season that saw half the favorites go out with COVID and especially if the top 3 of the lot don't podium a GT again I'm gonna call it a big fluke.
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I think some posters are too hung up on what luck means. The results were a statistical fluke... that means it was due to chance (or luck) and not predictive of future results. Whether or not they were the 2 strongest riders in that race is irrelevant.
Pereiro was also the 2nd strongest rider of the 2006 Tour and strongest who wasn't disqualified. That's what the GC says and the rest of what happened are meaningless details. All flukes.
Pereiro was also the 2nd strongest rider of the 2006 Tour and strongest who wasn't disqualified. That's what the GC says and the rest of what happened are meaningless details. All flukes.
This comes closer to my definition of a fluke as well.
In my opinion it is still based on skill to a large extend. It is almost impossible to win a GT based on mostly luck.
however, with the last condition added I can understand the term fluke being used. But not at the moment after only one season has passed.
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I hope he does UAE, would be a nice indicator how he does against decent opposition in a stage race.
Maybe the course of the spring gives more sense to the lineups. Vegni should be patient.
Vegni sees 'no logic' in absence of Caruso and Colbrelli from 2022 Giro d'Italia
Race director again calls on Pogacar to attempt Giro-Tour doublewww.cyclingnews.com
As well with the longing for Pogačar. The guy hasn't ridden yet two GTs in a season.
Yeah, the Pogacar stuff is a bit undignified. I can see why he’s annoyed about Colbrelli and Caruso though.
It’s really surprising that Colbrelli has gone 5 years since riding the Giro. With his enhanced status as a monument winner and European Champion you would have thought he would have got a say in his schedule making it even more surprising he is not going to his home grand tour.
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Even from the team’s point of view it’s weird. He would get constant tv camera attention and big publicity generally at the Giro this year. And it’s not as if they have to protect his form for a Tour GC tilt.
How it wasn't luck? Three of the big favourites were out. Thomas crashed, Yates and Kruijswijk got COVID. They also got one of the best domestique performances in the last decade with Dennis to help them out. Neither of them have a good enough ITT to be contenders in a good field.
If both Pog and Rog would be out at the Tour, Vingegaard would be considered a fluke winner. But I would still value him higher as GC contender simply because he has a much better ITT and he would at least beat Carapaz.
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Why do you assume it's a team's choice?
He's primarily a classic rider and as such he has to hit peak shape in early spring, which means he would have a hard time being still competitive in May. It's much more convenient to have some rest and build a second peak for the Tour.
My educated guess is that Colbrelli prefers riding the Tour, otherwise he would have done the Giro at least once since joining WT. The last time he rode the Giro he had no other option, because he was still with Bardiani.
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It's also amusing how nobody in Italy ever gave a sh*t about Colbrelli riding the Giro (Vegni included), but now that he has won the Euros and Roubaix everybody suddenly knows who he is and he's morally obliged to come.
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Meanwhile here we are, civilised men of culture who only care if Il Giro is in the bag.
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I'm sure it will be, the question is; who'll hold the bag?
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