Rider schedules for 2016.

[MatParker117]

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JRanton, Thomas will lead Down Under, Algarve, (Flanders?), and Suisse. And perhaps co-leading Paris-Nice with Froome. That's a lot of stage racing. If things goes well and he gets his top 5 in the Tour, he'll perhaps lead a Grand Tour in the future.

Why is Froome co-leading Paris-Nice all of a sudden? It's a race that suits Thomas and Kwiatkowski well, including the crosswinds that are quite common in the first few days. I'm sure Froome is motivated to ride Tirreno again after having to DNS the last 2 years.

because Landa and his Giro team will head to RCS´s Tirreno, while the Froome group will do Paris-Nice (and Dauphine´)

But Sky will want to win Tirreno so they'll send Froome there and Thomas/Kwiatkowski to Paris-Nice.

I think Kwiatkowski will spend a lot of time with Froome next year and would probably head to Tirreno because of the TTT and the way the mountain stages are designed.

 

[JRanton]

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JRanton, Thomas will lead Down Under, Algarve, (Flanders?), and Suisse. And perhaps co-leading Paris-Nice with Froome. That's a lot of stage racing. If things goes well and he gets his top 5 in the Tour, he'll perhaps lead a Grand Tour in the future.

Why is Froome co-leading Paris-Nice all of a sudden? It's a race that suits Thomas and Kwiatkowski well, including the crosswinds that are quite common in the first few days. I'm sure Froome is motivated to ride Tirreno again after having to DNS the last 2 years.

because Landa and his Giro team will head to RCS´s Tirreno, while the Froome group will do Paris-Nice (and Dauphine´)

But Sky will want to win Tirreno so they'll send Froome there and Thomas/Kwiatkowski to Paris-Nice.

I think Kwiatkowski will spend a lot of time with Froome next year and would probably head to Tirreno because of the TTT and the way the mountain stages are designed.

Sky mix their teams up in the early season one week races more than I think you and others appreciate. It's not going to be the case that Froome and his Tour team go to one race and Landa and his Giro team go to another.

The exceptions will probably be Trentino (Landa) and Dauphine (Froome) but even then they sent Thomas to Suisse this year.

 

[MatParker117]

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They tend to keep certain riders together throughout the year though, Roche and Froome this year for example.

 

[JRanton]

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They tend to keep certain riders together throughout the year though, Roche and Froome this year for example.

Roche rode Paris-Nice whilst Froome was due to ride Tirreno. I'm not even sure if Landa will ride either Paris-Nice or Tirreno. It would make quite a lot of sense to follow the same build-up for the Giro as he did this year.

 

[MatParker117]

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They tend to keep certain riders together throughout the year though, Roche and Froome this year for example.

Roche rode Paris-Nice whilst Froome was due to ride Tirreno. I'm not even sure if Landa will ride either Paris-Nice or Tirreno. It would make quite a lot of sense to follow the same build-up for the Giro as he did this year.

Sky like to get there leaders used to dealing with what comes with leading races, so it wouldn't surprise me if he started in Oman. There's no TT and the Green Mountain.

 

[JRanton]

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They tend to keep certain riders together throughout the year though, Roche and Froome this year for example.

Roche rode Paris-Nice whilst Froome was due to ride Tirreno. I'm not even sure if Landa will ride either Paris-Nice or Tirreno. It would make quite a lot of sense to follow the same build-up for the Giro as he did this year.

Sky like to get there leaders used to dealing with what comes with leading races, so it wouldn't surprise me if he started in Oman. There's no TT and the Green Mountain.

Makes very little sense to be in good enough shape to win Oman if you plan to be good at the Giro, never mind wanting to be good at the Giro and the Tour. Slow build-up, with maybe some domestique work at Catalunya, a more leading role at Pais Vasco and then full leadership at Trentino would make much more sense.

 

[Velolover2]

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JRanton, Thomas will lead Down Under, Algarve, (Flanders?), and Suisse. And perhaps co-leading Paris-Nice with Froome. That's a lot of stage racing. If things goes well and he gets his top 5 in the Tour, he'll perhaps lead a Grand Tour in the future.

Why is Froome co-leading Paris-Nice all of a sudden? It's a race that suits Thomas and Kwiatkowski well, including the crosswinds that are quite common in the first few days. I'm sure Froome is motivated to ride Tirreno again after having to DNS the last 2 years.

because Landa and his Giro team will head to RCS´s Tirreno, while the Froome group will do Paris-Nice (and Dauphine´)

Yep. And I'm pretty sure Froome wants to try a new adventure after having been sick at Tirreno several times. Paris-Nice is a perfect build-up for the Tour. And from what I've heard it should have a lot of TT'ing. Not something for the likes of Landa. And isn't the T-A without time trials this year?

I'm pretty sure Kwiatkowski will go to Italy because Strade Bianche is just before the T-A. So Froome/Thomas for Nice and Kwai/Landa for T-A.

Froome: Algarve or Andalusia, Paris-Nice, Catalunya, Romandie and Dauphine, Tour, Olympics.
Thomas: Algarve or Andalusia, Paris-Nice, Catalunya, (maybe E3 and Flanders), Romandie and Suisse, Tour, Olympics.
Kwiatkowski: Down Under, Spanish opening races, Strade Bianche, Tirreno, Pais Vasco, Ardennes, Suisse, Tour. + All the smaller hilly one-day races Sky will show up in.
Landa: Algarve or Andalusia, Tirreno, Pais Vasco, Trentino, Giro.

 

[HelloDolly]

Froome: Algarve or Andalusia, Paris-Nice, Catalunya, Romandie and Dauphine, Tour, Olympics.
Thomas: Algarve or Andalusia, Paris-Nice, Catalunya, (maybe E3 and Flanders), Romandie and Suisse, Tour, Olympics.
Kwiatkowski: Down Under, Spanish opening races, Strade Bianche, Tirreno, Pais Vasco, Ardennes, Suisse, Tour. + All the smaller hilly one-day races Sky will show up in.
Landa: Algarve or Andalusia, Tirreno, Pais Vasco, Trentino, Giro.

What part of Thomas is concentrating on winning stage races in 2016 did you not understand
And how is he going to do that while riding with Froome ??
And again as I said before ...there is no guarantee that Landa will be given all this leadership without first proving he can deliver ...My money is on Thomas & Kwait do lead many more stage rces ...What is Landa's comparative record in stage races ? And then there are other riders at SKY. Do you think these riders will not get a chance of some leadership.in any races ???For instance Henao ? Did alot better than Kwait in 2015 in most races

 

[Velolover2]

Because Landa is the second best climber in the world right now. Even better than Quintana and Contador (unless he can find his old shape).

With a little help from Team Sky, I think he will be better than Froome in a year or two.

 

[pink_jersey]

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Because Landa is the second best climber in the world right now. Even better than Quintana and Contador (unless he can find his old shape).

With a little help from Team Sky, I think he will be better than Froome in a year or two.

No, he isn't...Froome, Contador and Quintana are all better than him.

 

[GuyIncognito]

Landa is likely to ride the Tour.
He told ETB that he chose Sky because they allowed him to lead at the Giro and support in the Tour. He wanted this specifically because he claims he can never reach good form in the last third of the season

 

[MatParker117]

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Landa is likely to ride the Tour.
He told ETB that he chose Sky because they allowed him to lead at the Giro and support in the Tour. He wanted this specifically because he claims he can never reach good form in the last third of the season

Landa, Thomas, Poels, Kennaugh and Roche is a frightening prospect for Froome on the final climb of the tours mountain stages.

 

[staubsauger]

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Because Landa is the second best climber in the world right now. Even better than Quintana and Contador (unless he can find his old shape).

With a little help from Team Sky, I think he will be better than Froome in a year or two.

No, he isn't...Froome, Contador and Quintana are all better than him.

Quintana? Based on what!? Stelviogate? Attacking Froome when he's sick? That guy primarily lives from his front money. Even through he is a fantastic climber.

Based on this season there ain't no better grimpeur but Froome in the peloton. Landa dropped Contador three times on Cols in a way even Chicken 2007 only dreams about. And every time Contador tried to respond but had no answer to give. That's just a fact.

 

[pink_jersey]

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Because Landa is the second best climber in the world right now. Even better than Quintana and Contador (unless he can find his old shape).

With a little help from Team Sky, I think he will be better than Froome in a year or two.

No, he isn't...Froome, Contador and Quintana are all better than him.

Quintana? Based on what!? Stelviogate? Attacking Froome when he's sick? That guy primarily lives from his front money. Even through he is a fantastic climber.

Based on this season there ain't no better grimpeur but Froome in the peloton. Landa dropped Contador three times on Cols in a way even Chicken 2007 only dreams about. And every time Contador tried to respond but had no answer to give. That's just a fact.

C'mon...Contador wasn't at his best this year.Not even in Giro.I'm pretty sure that he'll bounce back next year.2014 Contador would have dropped Landa in Giro.
And about Quintana...well, he rides like a coward but he's still an elite climber.

 

[LaFlorecita]

The last page of this thread is something else. JFC. The worst part is that most of you actually believe the collective donkeycrap you come up with.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Because Landa is the second best climber in the world right now. Even better than Quintana and Contador (unless he can find his old shape).

With a little help from Team Sky, I think he will be better than Froome in a year or two.

No, he isn't...Froome, Contador and Quintana are all better than him.

Quintana? Based on what!? Stelviogate? Attacking Froome when he's sick? That guy primarily lives from his front money. Even through he is a fantastic climber.

Based on this season there ain't no better grimpeur but Froome in the peloton. Landa dropped Contador three times on Cols in a way even Chicken 2007 only dreams about. And every time Contador tried to respond but had no answer to give. That's just a fact.

C'mon...Contador wasn't at his best this year.Not even in Giro.I'm pretty sure that he'll bounce back next year.2014 Contador would have dropped Landa in Giro.
And about Quintana...well, he rides like a coward but he's still an elite climber.

Thank you.. a sensible person finally.

 

[HelloDolly]

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Landa is likely to ride the Tour.
He told ETB that he chose Sky because they allowed him to lead at the Giro and support in the Tour. He wanted this specifically because he claims he can never reach good form in the last third of the season

Said that on page 3

Landa will be given leadership in Giro which he has expressed a desire to ride.but with Nibali, Valverde & Dumoulin , etc I think he will find it hard to win
As he has never won one GT yet & SKY have other riders I think he will have one leadership guarantee and will ride in support of Froome at the Tour.ridiculous to say that a rider who has not won a GT would automatically be given leadership in 2 while other riders have no opportunities

 

[HelloDolly]

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Landa is likely to ride the Tour.
He told ETB that he chose Sky because they allowed him to lead at the Giro and support in the Tour. He wanted this specifically because he claims he can never reach good form in the last third of the season

Landa, Thomas, Poels, Kennaugh and Roche is a frightening prospect for Froome on the final climb of the tours mountain stages.

Kennaugh was nowhere to be seen on the climbs at this years Tour (or anywhere else) I would not necessarily ride him in the Tour.Let him do the Giro to build stamina

Froome, Landa, Roche, Thomas, Poles, Henao, Kwait, Stannard, Rowe (based on 2015 GT form) would be my Tour team

Landa, Konig, NIeve, Inauxasti, Kennaugh, Deignan, Viviani , Boswell, Kiri = Giro team

 

[damian13ster]

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Landa is likely to ride the Tour.
He told ETB that he chose Sky because they allowed him to lead at the Giro and support in the Tour. He wanted this specifically because he claims he can never reach good form in the last third of the season

Landa, Thomas, Poels, Kennaugh and Roche is a frightening prospect for Froome on the final climb of the tours mountain stages.

Kennaugh was nowhere to be seen on the climbs at this years Tour (or anywhere else) I would not necessarily ride him in the Tour.Let him do the Giro to build stamina

Froome, Landa, Roche, Thomas, Poles, Henao, Kwait, Stannard, Rowe (based on 2015 GT form) would be my Tour team

Landa, Konig, NIeve, Inauxasti, Kennaugh, Deignan, Viviani , Boswell, Kiri = Giro team

That Tour team is pretty much infallible....
If Froome is in good shape he will win easily (still would without a team since the strongest rider in GT always wins if he is allowed to).
I don't want Kwiatkowski to ride the Tour though. His recovery so far is not good enough and I dont think it is a good way for him to prepare for Olympics

 

[Billie]

Where does the obsession of Sky fans having to guess the teams line up for every race come from?

 

[MatParker117]

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Landa is likely to ride the Tour.
He told ETB that he chose Sky because they allowed him to lead at the Giro and support in the Tour. He wanted this specifically because he claims he can never reach good form in the last third of the season

Landa, Thomas, Poels, Kennaugh and Roche is a frightening prospect for Froome on the final climb of the tours mountain stages.

Kennaugh was nowhere to be seen on the climbs at this years Tour (or anywhere else) I would not necessarily ride him in the Tour.Let him do the Giro to build stamina

Froome, Landa, Roche, Thomas, Poles, Henao, Kwait, Stannard, Rowe (based on 2015 GT form) would be my Tour team

Landa, Konig, NIeve, Inauxasti, Kennaugh, Deignan, Viviani , Boswell, Kiri = Giro team

That Tour team is pretty much infallible....
If Froome is in good shape he will win easily (still would without a team since the strongest rider in GT always wins if he is allowed to).
I don't want Kwiatkowski to ride the Tour though. His recovery so far is not good enough and I dont think it is a good way for him to prepare for Olympics

They'll want him there as a domestique and to set Froome up for Stage 2.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Where does the obsession of Sky fans having to guess the teams line up for every race come from?

I asked about that a while ago, several posters including a mod agreed with me that it can be quite annoying, but it seems the Sky fans will just continue as usual.

 

[MatParker117]

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Where does the obsession of Sky fans having to guess the teams line up for every race come from?

I asked about that a while ago, several posters including a mod agreed with me that it can be quite annoying, but it seems the Sky fans will just continue as usual.

In my case I work nights and I don't have much of a life Also next year in particular Sky has the most depth in terms of GC talent since the 2009 Astana team and the number of possible lineup permutations is fun to discuss.

 

[HelloDolly]

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Where does the obsession of Sky fans having to guess the teams line up for every race come from?

I asked about that a while ago, several posters including a mod agreed with me that it can be quite annoying, but it seems the Sky fans will just continue as usual.

In my case I work nights and I don't have much of a life Also next year in particular Sky has the most depth in terms of GC talent since the 2009 Astana team and the number of possible lineup permutations is fun to discuss.

You don't have to explain ...there is alot of annoying sh*t goes on with other fans esp Contador fans posting pictures of him every time he smiles or farts

This particular thread is about schedules for 2016 .and thus will include the line up of races..There are other threads if it annoys you...you don't have to follow

I am happy to speculate on any team line up in 2016.Its part of the fun
Just pisses off certain people if anyone talks about SKY and their superb line up #biasmuch (wonder how mnay mods are Contaodor fans anyway and dislike SKY)

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Where does the obsession of Sky fans having to guess the teams line up for every race come from?

I asked about that a while ago, several posters including a mod agreed with me that it can be quite annoying, but it seems the Sky fans will just continue as usual.

In my case I work nights and I don't have much of a life Also next year in particular Sky has the most depth in terms of GC talent since the 2009 Astana team and the number of possible lineup permutations is fun to discuss.

As I said earlier I am sure you and others enjoy it (why else would you discuss it) but it may be better to have all those discussions in a single thread dedicated entirely to sky so those who aren't interested can avoid it, same for the Contador thread, if you don't like the craziness you can just not open it (*ahem* HelloDolly)