Riders to reach 100 pro wins

[CyclistAbi]

I voted for Primož Roglič.

 

[Bonimenier]

I voted for Primož Roglič.

It wasn't a vote for your favourite rider poll

 

[Netserk]

According to my spreadsheet (which on this parameter is not as thorougly fact-checked as the win stat) this is how the current pros rank in WT wins (including Olympic road races and World Championships road races):

1: Sagan - 72
2: Cavendish - 69
3: Valverde - 60 (includes wins from 2003 and 2004 in future WT races)
4: Roglic - 44
5: Froome - 35
6: Gilbert - 32
6: Sam Bennett - 32
8: Pogacar - 31
9: Ewan - 30
10: Viviani - 27
10: Matthews - 27
12: Alaphilippe - 25
13: Van Aert - 24
13: Porte - 24
15: Boasson Hagen - 23
15: Nibali - 23
15: Quintana - 23
18: Gaviria - 22
19: Démare - 21
20: Degenkolb - 20
20: Simon Yates - 20

So, in conclusion, 100 WT wins is impossible. Unless, maybe, your name is Tadej Pogacar.

Do you also have a breakdown between GC wins, stage wins and one-day wins in your spreadsheet? (and as a curiosity, it'd be fun to include career race days/mileage)

 

[CyclistAbi]

It wasn't a vote for your favourite rider poll

The fact that he is my favorite riders doesn't change much. A day or two back there was an article in local media. Due to Govekar winning for the firs time in the elite.

Od Slovencev sta bila mlajša le Pogačar in Mohorič

Matevž Govekar je izjemno začel prvo sezono v ekipi svetovne serije, saj se je pri dobrih 22 letih veselil prve zmage med profesionalci. Od Slovencev, ki trenutno vozijo za ekipe najmočnejše konkurence, sta bila mlajša le Tadej Pogačar in Matej Mohorič.

www.rtvslo.si

Looking at the stats the most ever wins per season by a Slovenian was 13. Roglič in 2019 and 2021. And Pogačar in 2021 and 2022.

Hence even if numbers do start do drop in the following seasons. There is no special reason he wouldn't reach 100 by the end of his career. Considering he will likely attempt Giro-Vuetla double at some point. A whole lot of opportunities for wins.

We'll see.

 

[KZD]

The fact that he is my favorite riders doesn't change much. A day or two back there was an article in local media. Due to Govekar winning for the firs time in the elite.

Od Slovencev sta bila mlajša le Pogačar in Mohorič

Matevž Govekar je izjemno začel prvo sezono v ekipi svetovne serije, saj se je pri dobrih 22 letih veselil prve zmage med profesionalci. Od Slovencev, ki trenutno vozijo za ekipe najmočnejše konkurence, sta bila mlajša le Tadej Pogačar in Matej Mohorič.

www.rtvslo.si

Looking at the stats the most ever wins per season by a Slovenian was 13. Roglič in 2019 and 2021. And Pogačar in 2021 and 2022.

Hence even if numbers do start do drop in the following seasons. There is no special reason he wouldn't reach 100 by the end of his career. Considering he will likely attempt Giro-Vuetla double at some point. A whole lot of opportunities for wins.

We'll see.

As I've explained in my post, Roglič would need around 5 'good' years to reach the 100 mark. Even if he manages to be competitive at 37 which is by no means certain his base level will likely drop more than his peak level so I can't see him getting more than 4-5 wins a season, in fact I think this season already is a step in that direction, he's not doing badly having won Paris-Nice and Dauphiné but has only 4 wins and even if he has been unlucky with injuries the years with 10+ wins are over.

Anyway, did you vote in anyone else besides Roglič?

 

[CyclistAbi]

@KZD

Then again he got injured and won nothing at the Tour. Besides the minor fact he being pivotal for JV success.

Point being lets first wait for the season to end. And after to count.

Anyway, did you vote in anyone else besides Roglič?

No.

P.S. If there will ever be a poll for 200. Then i might consider voting for Pogačar.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

@KZD

Then again he got injured and won nothing at the Tour. Besides the minor fact he being pivotal for JV success.

Point being lets first wait for the season to end. And after to count.



No.

P.S. If there will ever be a poll for 200. Then i might consider voting for Pogačar.

Don't vote Pogacar for 100 but vote him for 200. Nice

 

[CyclistAbi]

Don't vote Pogacar for 100 but vote him for 200. Nice

There needs to be some level of respect involved. Considering his age and current shape hence the question if Roglič can reach a 100 is in my opinion a fair question. Assumptions he is now already down to at best 4 to 5 wins per season are in my opinion a bit disrespectful. But OK. We are used to it. Him being a ski jumper and all that. As for asking if Pogačar will win a 100. This is in my opinion not really a respectful question. Hence ask a better question. Worth answering. As otherwise what are we all doing here? Wasting time on silly questions. We can't have that.

 

[tobydawq]

There needs to be some level of respect involved. Considering his age and current shape hence the question if Roglič can reach a 100 is in my opinion a fair question. Assumptions he is now already down to at best 4 to 5 wins per season are in my opinion a bit disrespectful. But OK. We are used to it. Him being a ski jumper and all that. As for asking if Pogačar will win a 100. This is in my opinion not really a respectful question. Hence ask a better question. Worth answering. As otherwise what are we all doing here? Wasting time on silly questions. We can't have that.

Wat

 

[tobydawq]

Do you also have a breakdown between GC wins, stage wins and one-day wins in your spreadsheet? (and as a curiosity, it'd be fun to include career race days/mileage)

I do. I might compile a list tonight.

 

[tobydawq]

Do you also have a breakdown between GC wins, stage wins and one-day wins in your spreadsheet? (and as a curiosity, it'd be fun to include career race days/mileage)

First name	Surname	Total wins	WT wins	% WT wins	GCs	1 day	Stages	WT GCs	WT 1 day	WT stages
Mark	Cavendish	161​	69​	42,8571​	4​	13​	144​	0​	2​	67​
Alejandro	Valverde	132​	60​	45,4545​	27​	33​	72​	8​	12​	40​
Peter	Sagan	121​	72​	59,5041​	4​	26​	91​	1​	12​	59​
Arnaud	Démare	89​	21​	23,5955​	8​	20​	61​	0​	2​	18​
Elia	Viviani	86​	27​	31,3953​	3​	20​	63​	0​	6​	21​
Alexander	Kristoff	84​	16​	19,0476​	4​	19​	61​	0​	8​	8​
Philippe	Gilbert	80​	32​	40​	8​	38​	34​	1​	14​	17​
Edvald	Boasson Hagen	78​	23​	29,4872​	9​	18​	51​	2​	3​	18​
Nacer	Bouhanni	70​	18​	25,7143​	2​	19​	49​	0​	0​	18​
Primož	Roglič	64​	44​	68,75​	16​	8​	40​	11​	2​	31​
Dylan	Groenewegen	62​	13​	20,9677​	0​	13​	49​	0​	1​	12​
Sam	Bennett	57​	32​	56,1404​	0​	10​	47​	0​	2​	30​
Caleb	Ewan	57​	30​	52,6316​	1​	5​	51​	0​	1​	29​
Vincenzo	Nibali	51​	23​	45,098​	14​	13​	24​	6​	4​	13​
Nairo	Quintana	50​	23​	46​	19​	1​	30​	7​	0​	16​
Fernando	Gaviria	49​	22​	44,898​	0​	4​	45​	0​	0​	22​
John	Degenkolb	48​	20​	41,6667​	1​	12​	35​	0​	4​	16​
Sacha	Modolo	47​	5​	10,6383​	1​	7​	39​	0​	0​	5​
Bryan	Coquard	47​	0​	0​	2​	6​	39​	0​	0​	0​
Luis León	Sánchez	46​	17​	36,9565​	5​	10​	31​	1​	2​	14​
Jakub	Mareczko	46​	0​	0​	2​	0​	44​	0​	0​	0​
Chris	Froome	45​	35​	77,7778​	16​	0​	29​	11​	0​	24​
Tadej	Pogačar	43​	31​	72,093​	11​	5​	27​	7​	3​	21​
Diego	Ulissi	43​	14​	32,5581​	7​	12​	24​	1​	1​	12​
Greg	Van Avermaet	41​	14​	34,1463​	6​	13​	22​	1​	7​	6​
Michael	Matthews	40​	27​	67,5​	0​	9​	31​	0​	4​	23​
Julian	Alaphilippe	39​	25​	64,1026​	3​	9​	27​	0​	8​	17​
Mathieu	van der Poel	39​	16​	41,0256​	4​	14​	21​	1​	6​	9​
Wout	Van Aert	38​	24​	63,1579​	2​	13​	23​	0​	6​	17​
Pascal	Ackermann	38​	19​	50​	0​	11​	27​	0​	2​	17​
Fabio	Jakobsen	36​	13​	36,1111​	0​	9​	27​	0​	0​	13​
Tim	Wellens	34​	16​	47,0588​	7​	8​	19​	4​	1​	11​
Sonny	Colbrelli	34​	7​	20,5882​	2​	18​	14​	1​	1​	5​
Giovanni	Visconti	34​	2​	5,88235​	1​	17​	16​	0​	0​	2​
Richie	Porte	33​	24​	72,7273​	10​	1​	22​	8​	0​	16​
Thibaut	Pinot	33​	11​	33,3333​	7​	3​	23​	0​	1​	11​
Remco	Evenepoel	33​	6​	18,1818​	9​	8​	16​	1​	3​	2​
Rohan	Dennis	32​	17​	53,125​	4​	7​	21​	1​	2​	14​
Simon	Yates	30​	20​	66,6667​	4​	2​	24​	2​	0​	18​
Alexey	Lutsenko	30​	7​	23,3333​	5​	11​	14​	0​	0​	7​
Michał	Kwiatkowski	29​	15​	51,7241​	4​	13​	12​	2​	7​	6​
Daryl	Impey	29​	9​	31,0345​	5​	11​	13​	2​	0​	7​
Giacomo	Nizzolo	29​	4​	13,7931​	1​	9​	19​	0​	0​	4​
Matteo	Trentin	27​	10​	37,037​	0​	7​	20​	0​	0​	10​
Jakob	Fuglsang	27​	9​	33,3333​	10​	5​	12​	2​	2​	5​
Rui	Costa	26​	16​	61,5385​	6​	7​	13​	4​	2​	10​
Geraint	Thomas	25​	13​	52​	10​	4​	11​	5​	1​	7​
Bob	Jungels	25​	3​	12​	1​	17​	7​	0​	1​	2​
Mads	Pedersen	24​	6​	25​	2​	7​	15​	0​	2​	4​
Magnus	Cort	23​	11​	47,8261​	0​	1​	22​	0​	0​	11​
Christophe	Laporte	23​	2​	8,69565​	2​	5​	16​	0​	0​	2​
Tom	Dumoulin	22​	16​	72,7273​	2​	5​	15​	2​	1​	13​

 

[Netserk]

Cool. It makes sense, but it's also a bit weird with NCTTs as one-day races.

 

[tobydawq]

Cool. It makes sense, but it's also a bit weird with NCTTs as one-day races.

Yeah, I haven't noted them separately from the road races, so that must be your homework

But yes, Jungels is a bit eye-catching there.

 

[Parker]

Delete

 

[tobydawq]

Cavendish 78
Sagan 68
Valverde 58

(excludes World Champs. Valverde's include ones that were before the WT/PT or were excluded when the UCI and race owners were at war)

Cavendish' number is not that high. I can count to 68 when looking at his list of wins on PCS. Plus his WCRR which is included in my list.

 

[Parker]

Yep. Only Merckx is way above that number (if we count Super Prestige Pernod as a WT predecessor). Cipollini is maybe close, Van Looy, De Vlaeminck and Kelly too, although I think they're slightly below that milestone.

First Cycling do an approximation for older riders (mostly based on the SPP)

Of those you mention:

Merckx 153
Cipollini 94
Van Looy 84
Kelly 75
De Vlaeminck 58

Hinault's 85 seems to be the best of the rest

 

[Bonimenier]

First Cycling do an approximation for older riders based on the current WT

Of those you mention:

Merckx 153
Cipollini 94
Van Looy 84
Kelly 75
De Vlaeminck 58

Those numbers seem way off. I checked De Vlaeminck real quick and just the wins listed on his pcs homepage would amount to quite a bit more than 58 all WT.

 

[Red Rick]

Demare - Yes
Viviani - No
Roglic - No
Groenewegen - No
Ewan - No
Pogacar - Yes
Van der Poel - No
Van Aert - No
Evenepoel - Yes

 

[Parker]

Those numbers seem way off. I checked De Vlaeminck real quick and just the wins listed on his pcs homepage would amount to quite a bit more than 58 all WT.

I made an edit. It's (mostly) based on the Super Prestige Pernod

https://firstcycling.com/rider.php?r=1574&high=1&k=1&wt=1

 

[Bonimenier]

I made an edit. It's (mostly) based on the Super Prestige Pernod

https://firstcycling.com/rider.php?r=1574&high=1&k=1&wt=1

First thing I notice is that TA only appears twice in the list, while it should appear over 20 times (stage victories + GCs)

 

[tobydawq]

Demare - Yes
Viviani - No
Roglic - No
Groenewegen - No
Ewan - No
Pogacar - Yes
Van der Poel - No
Van Aert - No
Evenepoel - Yes

What about Jakobsen?

 

[Netserk]

What about Jakobsen?

No

(and I agree with RR)

 

[tobydawq]

No

(and I agree with RR)

As do the majority.

 

[Netserk]

As do the majority.

I haven't checked, but I don't think so.

EDIT:

Which riders will reach 100 pro wins?

• 
  
  Arnaud Démare (89)
  Votes: 38 80.9%
  
  
  
  • archa55
  • Dekker_Tifosi
  • DJ Sprtsch
  • Big Doopie
  • Jan the Man
  • Armchair cyclist
  • Carstenbf
  • Finn84
  • Netserk
  • Logic-is-your-friend
  • SHAD0W93
  • OlavEH
  • The Blues
  • Põhja Konn
  • Monte Serra
  • Billie
  • carolina
  • tobydawq
  • Alexandre B.
  • Samamba
  • StryderHells
  • Davesta
  • Sandisfan
  • wheresmybrakes
  • Pirazziattacks
  • hayneplane
  • Devil's Elbow
  • KZD
  • Bonimenier
  • Earns1985
  • JDV25
  • Kaptain Kool
  • Carrick-On-Seine
  • Eeslliw
  • Wyndbrook
  • Lui98
  • Ilmaestro99
  • QueenStagiaire
• 
  
  Elia Viviani (86)
  Votes: 3 6.4%
  
  
  
  • Logic-is-your-friend
  • SHAD0W93
  • Ilmaestro99
• 
  
  Primoz Roglic (64)
  Votes: 4 8.5%
  
  
  
  • SHAD0W93
  • Sandisfan
  • CyclistAbi
  • Marek
• 
  
  Dylan Groenewegen (62)
  Votes: 8 17.0%
  
  
  
  • Finn84
  • OlavEH
  • tobydawq
  • wheresmybrakes
  • Bonimenier
  • Carrick-On-Seine
  • Nick2413
  • Ilmaestro99
• 
  
  Caleb Ewan (57)
  Votes: 7 14.9%
  
  
  
  • Billie
  • tobydawq
  • Samamba
  • StryderHells
  • Marek
  • Lui98
  • Ilmaestro99
• 
  
  Tadej Pogacar (43)
  Votes: 41 87.2%
  
  
  
  • archa55
  • DJ Sprtsch
  • Big Doopie
  • Jan the Man
  • Armchair cyclist
  • Hugo Koblet
  • Finn84
  • Netserk
  • Logic-is-your-friend
  • SHAD0W93
  • OlavEH
  • The Blues
  • Põhja Konn
  • del1962
  • Monte Serra
  • Billie
  • carolina
  • tobydawq
  • Alexandre B.
  • Davesta
  • Sandisfan
  • Blobs
  • Pirazziattacks
  • hayneplane
  • Devil's Elbow
  • KZD
  • Bonimenier
  • Earns1985
  • Marek
  • houtdffan
  • JDV25
  • Kaptain Kool
  • Carrick-On-Seine
  • Eeslliw
  • Wyndbrook
  • Lui98
  • Nick2413
  • Ilmaestro99
  • Jumbo Visma Fan :)
  • Gwbert
  • QueenStagiaire
• 
  
  Mathieu van der Poel (39)
  Votes: 11 23.4%
  
  
  
  • archa55
  • Dekker_Tifosi
  • Jan the Man
  • SHAD0W93
  • OlavEH
  • Põhja Konn
  • Alexandre B.
  • StryderHells
  • Davesta
  • Marek
  • JDV25
• 
  
  Wout van Aert (38)
  Votes: 19 40.4%
  
  
  
  • archa55
  • Big Doopie
  • Jan the Man
  • Finn84
  • SHAD0W93
  • OlavEH
  • The Blues
  • del1962
  • carolina
  • Alexandre B.
  • StryderHells
  • Davesta
  • Sandisfan
  • hayneplane
  • Devil's Elbow
  • Marek
  • JDV25
  • Wyndbrook
  • QueenStagiaire
• 
  
  Fabio Jakobsen (36)
  Votes: 14 29.8%
  
  
  
  • Dekker_Tifosi
  • Jan the Man
  • Armchair cyclist
  • Logic-is-your-friend
  • Monte Serra
  • tobydawq
  • Sandisfan
  • wheresmybrakes
  • hayneplane
  • Devil's Elbow
  • Bonimenier
  • Marek
  • JDV25
  • Lui98
• 
  
  Remco Evenepoel (33)
  Votes: 32 68.1%
  
  
  
  • Dekker_Tifosi
  • DJ Sprtsch
  • Big Doopie
  • Jan the Man
  • Hugo Koblet
  • Finn84
  • Netserk
  • Logic-is-your-friend
  • OlavEH
  • The Blues
  • del1962
  • Billie
  • carolina
  • tobydawq
  • Davesta
  • Sandisfan
  • Blobs
  • hayneplane
  • Devil's Elbow
  • KZD
  • Bonimenier
  • Earns1985
  • Marek
  • houtdffan
  • JDV25
  • Carrick-On-Seine
  • Eeslliw
  • Wyndbrook
  • Lui98
  • Nick2413
  • Ilmaestro99
  • QueenStagiaire

• Total voters 47

By my count, that is only 5 out of 47 who agree with RR.

 

[tobydawq]

I haven't checked, but I don't think so.

EDIT:

I obviously meant that Démare, Pogacar and Remco are the only ones to have more than 50 %, not that more than 50 % of people voted exclusively on those three...