Rigoberto Uran discussion thread.

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IndianCyclist said:
More than that i think he wants to find out what he can do in the GTs. A top 5 is good for any team leader.
He knows what he can do. He was second in the Giro. Nobody remembers top 5 it's the podium or nothing. It's like stage winners. Winners are remembered but place getters are not. That's why GT riders are so disappointed to finish fourth or fifth. Only new pros would consider that a great result.
 
uran never had that type of performance to make you say damn this guy can win the tour one day. a blistering performance, watts all over the place. never
in my opinion, he can't top 5 in le tour. jurgen will be better than him
 
movingtarget said:
He knows what he can do. He was second in the Giro. Nobody remembers top 5 it's the podium or nothing. It's like stage winners. Winners are remembered but place getters are not. That's why GT riders are so disappointed to finish fourth or fifth. Only new pros would consider that a great result.
In the Giro Uran was in a good shape, yes, but he was working, and he lost 1 min 30 seconds waiting for Wiggins. He like hot weather and there was cold, really cold and rain in the mountains. And the real hard stages of the Giro, those who make the difference, were suspended or changed by one climb stage. Anyway Nibali was the stronger than Giro, he was really strong, but it would be another race in other conditions, and Urán still can improve.

Anyway Urán is not very reliable, if he is not in the best shape, in three weeks he can lose time one day and say bye bye.
 
movingtarget said:
He knows what he can do. He was second in the Giro. Nobody remembers top 5 it's the podium or nothing. It's like stage winners. Winners are remembered but place getters are not. That's why GT riders are so disappointed to finish fourth or fifth. Only new pros would consider that a great result.
I am really surprised that you think so:eek:. Check out any present day Dutch/Begian GC riders. They are extremely happy with top 5:p.
The problem is the cobbles. Though i am sure he can handle them, they are risky proposition with OPQS as OPQS is going to push the pace very hard on that stage. Wouldn't do for the team to dump their own team leader. Lefevere is going to convince Uran for Giro Vuelta with WC thrown in and Tour for 2015.
 
IndianCyclist said:
I am really surprised that you think so:eek:. Check out any present day Dutch/Begian GC riders. They are extremely happy with top 5:p.
The problem is the cobbles. Though i am sure he can handle them, they are risky proposition with OPQS as OPQS is going to push the pace very hard on that stage. Wouldn't do for the team to dump their own team leader. Lefevere is going to convince Uran for Giro Vuelta with WC thrown in and Tour for 2015.
A top 5 in the Tour is a dream for a lot of riders and teams. The problems is that riders must be more ambitious and take risk to be on the podium or to win. But to show you can get that place, it worth a lot. That means you are always there in the key moments, one of the riders people see evgery day with option to win...

Uran has been always a good worker, but he is tired to work, other riders with his potential has never worked for anybody and he was working first for Valverde (and he finished a Romandie just 2 second behind him after work) and later for Froome or Wiggins.

He has always had his oportunities, anyway, but if you are not lucky in that moments...
 
Taxus4a said:
A top 5 in the Tour is a dream for a lot of riders and teams. The problems is that riders must be more ambitious and take risk to be on the podium or to win. But to show you can get that place, it worth a lot. That means you are always there in the key moments, one of the riders people see evgery day with option to win...

Uran has been always a good worker, but he is tired to work, other riders with his potential has never worked for anybody and he was working first for Valverde (and he finished a Romandie just 2 second behind him after work) and later for Froome or Wiggins.

He has always had his oportunities, anyway, but if you are not lucky in that moments...
I just hope OPQS management realize his potential & invest in him properly-because he well be the one putting the team back on GC spots. Sadly-as I anticipated- Cav & Bonnen will have their own interests protected & any other objectives aside from theirs will be just "crumbs" for the rest of the riders. No doubt why Chavanel left the team when Cav got hired....
 
Anyway Urán although is a good worker to train, he maybe now is with a rum bottle in a party, he love colombians parties, and even wrong food... he is not a bike freakie as Gesink or Dan Martin, or even Froome, very committed and disciplined even in his free time...

(anyway if we talk about wrong food Horner is an expert...:p)

As the same time Uran has his mistakes in the race. He has learn a lot, especially in SKY,n as well that work in the ITT (he didnt work properly with Caisse), but still has to show what you need to win, as Rui Costa do.

Rui Costa is not a leader so far, the same as Rigo, he is not more talented, but he has done a season plenty of big results.
 
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Taxus4a said:
In the Giro Uran was in a good shape, yes, but he was working, and he lost 1 min 30 seconds waiting for Wiggins. He like hot weather and there was cold, really cold and rain in the mountains. And the real hard stages of the Giro, those who make the difference, were suspended or changed by one climb stage. Anyway Nibali was the stronger than Giro, he was really strong, but it would be another race in other conditions, and Urán still can improve.

Anyway Urán is not very reliable, if he is not in the best shape, in three weeks he can lose time one day and say bye bye.
every rider like hot weather pretty much. but uran is actually very good in bad and cold weather. same with henao and duque and others. some can't handle cold and rain at all like rujano and pozzovivo
 
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Ryo Hazuki said:
every rider like hot weather pretty much. but uran is actually very good in bad and cold weather. same with henao and duque and others. some can't handle cold and rain at all like rujano and pozzovivo
Rujano won at the Grossglockner in the Giro in rainy conditions.
 
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Arredondo said:
Rujano won at the Grossglockner in the Giro in rainy conditions.
you don't understand how weather works during a race then. the whole stage was low altitude and in good conditions. so then it doesn't matter what weather the final climb will be since your body is so incredibly warm anyway.
 
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Ryo Hazuki said:
you don't understand how weather works during a race then. the whole stage was low altitude and in good conditions. so then it doesn't matter what weather the final climb will be since your body is so incredibly warm anyway.
I was just provocate a little, i didn't look at the circumstanses during the stage;)

Of course you're right about the fact Rujano can't handle extreme or rainy/cold conditions well.
 
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I like his approach with media and he seems involved also with locals at his place; on that side he does much more than some well known european guys.
 
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Good luck Rigo keep that form going next year as we know riders get worst when they leave Sky dont they did u see Rogers last year i mean he was gruppeto rider.:rolleyes:
 
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movingtarget said:
He knows what he can do. He was second in the Giro. Nobody remembers top 5 it's the podium or nothing. It's like stage winners. Winners are remembered but place getters are not. That's why GT riders are so disappointed to finish fourth or fifth. Only new pros would consider that a great result.
Top 5's are great results give me a top 5 in a GT over 1-2 even 3 Stage wins. Even someone like Fuglsang in the TDF id rather have his placement than a stage, when u look through history you remember top 10 placement you dont remember who won which stage into Dax for example.
 
TANK91 said:
Top 5's are great results give me a top 5 in a GT over 1-2 even 3 Stage wins. Even someone like Fuglsang in the TDF id rather have his placement than a stage, when u look through history you remember top 10 placement you dont remember who won which stage into Dax for example.
You must have a rather good memory thinkTank.

Personally I couldn't give a sh!t about top 10 placements. Give me a stage win any day. Especially one which is not bunch sprint related.
 
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In terms of best Tour I'd rate Froome, Quintana, Kittel, and then personally I'd rate Costa's Tour along with Rodriguez and Sagan, ahead of Contador and Kreuziger and then all other top placed riders.
 
TANK91 said:
Good luck Rigo keep that form going next year as we know riders get worst when they leave Sky dont they did u see Rogers last year i mean he was gruppeto rider.:rolleyes:
He's one of the very few "real deals" on a bike riding in the WT. His ride and eventual abandon at the 2013 WC showed enormous determination on a difficult day.

I don't know if we'll see a GC podium for him, but definitely stage and more one-day podiums.
 
TANK91 said:
Top 5's are great results give me a top 5 in a GT over 1-2 even 3 Stage wins. Even someone like Fuglsang in the TDF id rather have his placement than a stage, when u look through history you remember top 10 placement you dont remember who won which stage into Dax for example.
One of the worst reasoning I've ever read on this forum. You can't mean it for real, can you?
Holy **** these noobs nowadays.
 
TANK91 said:
Top 5's are great results give me a top 5 in a GT over 1-2 even 3 Stage wins. Even someone like Fuglsang in the TDF id rather have his placement than a stage, when u look through history you remember top 10 placement you dont remember who won which stage into Dax for example.
What do you think is going to be remembered in 5 years? Riblon's gutsy win on the Alpe, or Fuglsang fighting to hang on the climbs that tiny bit longer than Mollema? :rolleyes:
 
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TANK91 said:
Top 5's are great results give me a top 5 in a GT over 1-2 even 3 Stage wins. Even someone like Fuglsang in the TDF id rather have his placement than a stage, when u look through history you remember top 10 placement you dont remember who won which stage into Dax for example.
LOL @ everything in this post. I hope you were wasted from all sorts of drugs while posting this
 

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