Roma Maxima - Giro del Lazio 03.03.2013

[SafeBet]

The bunch took too long to organise the chase and even without race radios it's hard to believe the information about Kadri could not have come from a car riding beside the riders.

It might be hard to believe, but comments atfer the race suggest they didn't know. Why should they lie about it?

 

[movingtarget]

It might be hard to believe, but comments atfer the race suggest they didn't know. Why should they lie about it?

If they didn't know after Kadri was in front for so long is my point. Obviously the riders in front of the bunch knew including Nibali but Pozatto's team did not nor did Bole's team. They didn't have race radios but they drive alongside the riders. Very strange. Simply counting the breakaways would have been a start.

 

[B_Ugli]

If they didn't know after Kadri was in front for so long is my point. Obviously the riders in front of the bunch knew including Nibali but Pozatto's team did not nor did Bole's team. They didn't have race radios but they drive alongside the riders. Very strange. Simply counting the breakaways would have been a start.

+1.

Entirely agree with this. They still have eyes and ears which is the way riders find out info in 90% of non professional races.

I think saying they didnt know = didn't bother to check until too late.

Years of radios has rendered the bunch totally incabable or reading a race or that old thing we used to call race craft.

Put simply the cleverest rider won on the day which is what its all about.

Same as at the Olympics

 

[Peccio89]

Maybe riders should be able to listen to race radio, yes it improves racing that the team managers can not just shout down their ear but also can not have guys sprinting for 2nd thinking they are going for a win.

Impressive power from pozz considering he doesnt sprint in the full out style.

I totally agree with that, they should at least allow riders to listen to the race radio, so they know what is happening in the race, and at the same time they avoid the problem of DS telling them exactly what they have to do.

I think that in this situation Pozzato didn't know about kadri because on the last climb he was dropped by the bunch and was able to get back only at the end of the downhill, so that he thought that only Nibali group was still ahead.

But at least in Nibali group they surely knew Kadri was still away because i saw at least a couple of time that the motorbike gave riders information about time gaps.

 

[cineteq]

It might be hard to believe, but comments atfer the race suggest they didn't know. Why should they lie about it?

Obviously some (most?) rides knew since they let Pippo win the sprint. Do you think he would've won otherwise?

 

[search]

Do you think he would've won otherwise?

uhm, yeah, why not? there were not that many quick guys left

 

[Pippo_San]

Obviously some (most?) rides knew since they let Pippo win the sprint. Do you think he would've won otherwise?

Lol come on, don't be mean to poor Pippo

 

[jens_attacks]

Obviously some (most?) rides knew since they let Pippo win the sprint. Do you think he would've won otherwise?

i hope you were just trolling

 

[Flamin]

Pippo won the sprint without even coming out of his saddle (meanwhile he was a bit sick and, according to himself, didn't have good legs). then you know for sure he will be right up there in the classics again this year.

And that finish photo is just epic.

 

[cineteq]

i hope you were just trolling

No I wasn't. If you care to answer it please justify it.

 

[LaFlorecita]

No I wasn't. If you care to answer it please justify it.

Pippo was simply the fastest in the group at that moment. By the way you say that they let Pippo get 2nd assuming that those other riders wouldn't like a second place

 

[jens_attacks]

No I wasn't. If you care to answer it please justify it.

the other guys didn't know too. they were sprinting "for the win"

but i thought that was obvious

i guess at least grega was more cheerful after he found out
http://www.cyclingnews.com/races/giro-del-lazio-2013/photos/254668

 

[SafeBet]

If you care to answer it please justify it.

Check the riders who came in with Pozzato and come back with a list of riders who can beat him in a sprint.

Then I might even consider discussing this nonsense you're bringing up.

 

[SafeBet]

i guess at least grega was more cheerful after he found out
http://www.cyclingnews.com/races/giro-del-lazio-2013/photos/254668

Bole talked to RAI just after the sprint and said something like: well we didn't know, I feel better now.

 

[cineteq]

Pippo was simply the fastest in the group at that moment. By the way you say that they let Pippo get 2nd assuming that those other riders wouldn't like a second place

The premise is that most people knew Kadri was ahead, as I said before. Then it's not the same contesting fors 1st place and a podium place. Please read my post carefully next time.

I'll take Safebet answer that nobody would've beaten Pippo anyway, and we'll leave it as that.

 

[SafeBet]

Cassani spoke to Santambrogio yesterday.
Turns out even Nibali's group didn't know Kadri was still ahead until the very last kms. Santa said when motorbike showed them the gap they thought it was the gap they had on the peloton.