Kreuziger has had a good spring. Very consistent. Wonder if he will get an opportunity to win a stage in the GTs.
I assume he'll be given a chance at the TDF, seeing that A.Yates will have limited support at the race.movingtarget said:Kreuziger has had a good spring. Very consistent. Wonder if he will get an opportunity to win a stage in the GTs.
Kreuziger may also be his only domestique, so in that case, he will probably be completely isolated when it gets toughyaco said:I assume he'll be given a chance at the TDF, seeing that A.Yates will have limited support at the race.movingtarget said:Kreuziger has had a good spring. Very consistent. Wonder if he will get an opportunity to win a stage in the GTs.
Amstel 2013 proves you and others wrong.Dekker_Tifosi said:Typical Kreuziger results. The man doesn't have the punch or sprint to finish it off, and he's not a strong enough time trial / solo rider like Jungels
Looks like Kreuziger is riding the Giro - So MS is sticking to their original plan of having Howson support A.Yates at the TDF - This is all to do with having a strong team for the TTT to give A.Yates an advantage at the beginning of the TDF - Yates will be lonely.Valv.Piti said:Kreuziger may also be his only domestique, so in that case, he will probably be completely isolated when it gets toughyaco said:I assume he'll be given a chance at the TDF, seeing that A.Yates will have limited support at the race.movingtarget said:Kreuziger has had a good spring. Very consistent. Wonder if he will get an opportunity to win a stage in the GTs.
This. The man has a huge engine, he just didn't used Haig properly.Kokoso said:Amstel 2013 proves you and others wrong.Dekker_Tifosi said:Typical Kreuziger results. The man doesn't have the punch or sprint to finish it off, and he's not a strong enough time trial / solo rider like Jungels
For GC or stage hunting?yaco said:Looks like Kreuziger is riding the Giro - So MS is sticking to their original plan of having Howson support A.Yates at the TDF - This is all to do with having a strong team for the TTT to give A.Yates an advantage at the beginning of the TDF - Yates will be lonely.Valv.Piti said:Kreuziger may also be his only domestique, so in that case, he will probably be completely isolated when it gets toughyaco said:I assume he'll be given a chance at the TDF, seeing that A.Yates will have limited support at the race.movingtarget said:Kreuziger has had a good spring. Very consistent. Wonder if he will get an opportunity to win a stage in the GTs.
Maybe, but I tend to think he simply did not have best day compared to Amstel and Fleche Wallone. If he had legs he would certainly attack and did not wait till the end. He went for certainity of top ten which he's capable of even without his best legs in this race. If he'd attack without his legs, result was unsure.Blanco said:This. The man has a huge engine, he just didn't used Haig properly.Kokoso said:Amstel 2013 proves you and others wrong.Dekker_Tifosi said:Typical Kreuziger results. The man doesn't have the punch or sprint to finish it off, and he's not a strong enough time trial / solo rider like Jungels
Even if Jungels caught with him, which is pure speculation, he probably wouldn't brought him back because Kreuziger would just go on. How do you know Jungels would've brought him back in no time flat anyway? Remember Amstel this year? Group of favourites including Sagan had fulls hand to bring him and Gasparotto back. Or Amstel 2013? Kreuziger in top form is very good rouleur and in long race like this even better.Red Rick said:Had he gone instead of Jungels, Jungels would've brought him back in no time flat if he wanted to, or he would've let him swim at 15s before Alaphilippe finishes everyone off in the last 5km.Blanco said:Had he gone instead of Jungels he would've won, because the chase was so great. But then again maybe Haig would've work then, he didn't rode for Krueziger, maybe he would ride against himDekker_Tifosi said:Typical Kreuziger results. The man doesn't have the punch or sprint to finish it off, and he's not a strong enough time trial / solo rider like Jungels![]()
Yeah, maybe.Kokoso said:Even if Jungels caught with him, which is pure speculation, he probably wouldn't brought him back because Kreuziger would just go on. How do you know Jungels would've brought him back in no time flat anyway? Remember Amstel this year? Group of favourites including Sagan had fulls hand to bring him and Gasparotto back. Or Amstel 2013? Kreuziger in top form is very good rouleur and in long race like this even better.Red Rick said:Had he gone instead of Jungels, Jungels would've brought him back in no time flat if he wanted to, or he would've let him swim at 15s before Alaphilippe finishes everyone off in the last 5km.Blanco said:Had he gone instead of Jungels he would've won, because the chase was so great. But then again maybe Haig would've work then, he didn't rode for Krueziger, maybe he would ride against himDekker_Tifosi said:Typical Kreuziger results. The man doesn't have the punch or sprint to finish it off, and he's not a strong enough time trial / solo rider like Jungels![]()
Looking at his results in the spring he is obviously someone who can compete and get good results in the hillier classics. As of 2018 he is probably a much more convincing one day rider than a stage race rider.Dekker_Tifosi said:No it doesn't prove me wrong Kokoso. That was 1 race, just after a course change, where the favorites didn't really know what to do with that course.
It's just like Poels winning LBL. He still is no classics man (to me).
Five top 10 finishes at LBL,Dekker_Tifosi said:No it doesn't prove me wrong Kokoso. That was 1 race, just after a course change, where the favorites didn't really know what to do with that course.
It's just like Poels winning LBL. He still is no classics man (to me).
When did Poels achieve that?DFA123 said:Five top 10 finishes at LBL,Dekker_Tifosi said:No it doesn't prove me wrong Kokoso. That was 1 race, just after a course change, where the favorites didn't really know what to do with that course.
It's just like Poels winning LBL. He still is no classics man (to me).
Winner and podium at AGR
Two top 10 finishes at FW
Winner and podium at San Sebastian
"no classics man (to me)"
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Kokoso said:Amstel 2013 proves you and others wrong.Dekker_Tifosi said:Typical Kreuziger results. The man doesn't have the punch or sprint to finish it off, and he's not a strong enough time trial / solo rider like Jungels
Exactly the point - he hasn't. Kreuziger's classics record is nothing like Poels winning LBL. Poels has 2 top 10 finishes in hilly classics in his whole career.Netserk said:When did Poels achieve that?DFA123 said:Five top 10 finishes at LBL,Dekker_Tifosi said:No it doesn't prove me wrong Kokoso. That was 1 race, just after a course change, where the favorites didn't really know what to do with that course.
It's just like Poels winning LBL. He still is no classics man (to me).
Winner and podium at AGR
Two top 10 finishes at FW
Winner and podium at San Sebastian
"no classics man (to me)"
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It's just nonsense. Kreuziger has eleven top ten finishes in the four biggest hilly classics (Ardennes + San Sebastian). And he has won twice.Netserk said:So? No one is stating that Kreuziger is not a classics man.
I read the Poels remark more as a single win doesn't prove a point. In this case that Kreuziger "doesn't have the punch or sprint to finish it off, and he's not a strong enough time trial / solo rider like Jungels".
Nothing arbitrary about it; the four biggest hilly one day races are obvious to any followers of cycling. Ignoring one of Kreuziger's big wins to suit some narrative you have drawn up is pretty weak.Netserk said:Lol, arbitrarily pick out four races, double up the number of wins for Kreuziger, and finally compare him to riders whom the characteristic doesn't match.
I wasn't responding to anything you wrote actually - you just decided to jump in with some tangental nonsense.Netserk said:Yeah, I'm sure you count Aubisque as a Contador win as well...
Somehow you still act as if I at any point has written that Kreuziger isn't a classics rider. You really are only 2nd to the Pickle.
Yes, I understand that. And the previous sentence said "It's just like Poels winning LBL". The implication therefore being that Kreuziger is also not a classics man. Which is what I disagree with.Netserk said:No classics man is a description of Poels. Not Kreuziger.
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