Ronde Van Vlaanderen 2012

[Ryo Hazuki]

Can't believe people actually think he looks fat. I think Phil will be ready now

He won't win the Ronde, but he's going to be a monster by the time the Ardennes start.

 

[El Pistolero]

Says the guy who thinks Uran has done better than Richie Porte this season. LOL.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

24. (46) [COL] URAN URAN Rigoberto SKY 26/01/1987 259
37. (238) [AUS] PORTE Richie SKY 30/01/1985 220

Porte: won a 2.1 race
Uran: finished 12th, while working for a leader, in a WT race (PN)
finished 4th + stage win in another WT race

Hmm. I dunno. But catalunya + PN importance >>> algarve

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Says the guy who thinks Uran has done better than Richie Porte this season. LOL.

in paris nice. lol why don't you learn to read first?

although by now he has btw. thanks to catalunya

 

[El Pistolero]

24. (46) [COL] URAN URAN Rigoberto SKY 26/01/1987 259
37. (238) [AUS] PORTE Richie SKY 30/01/1985 220

Porte: won a 2.1 race
Uran: finished 12th, while working for a leader, in a WT race (PN)
finished 4th + stage win in another WT race

Hmm. I dunno. But catalunya + PN importance >>> algarve

I'm pretty sure Catalunya is worth absolutely nothing except WT points. Porte was domestique in P-N, a good one at that.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

I disagree with Catalunya being worth nothing. Even with the stage cancellation and ridicolous winner as result it has much more value than Algarve

 

[theyoungest]

Porte was a domestique in Paris-Nice because he lost 15 minutes in the first stage.

 

[Fetisoff]

Wow, I must have misread the thread title. Should check my eyes out


And yes, Freire is starting RVV, not certain for P-R yet

 

[Lexman]

Team Lotto Belisol for sunday

Gaëtan Bille
Sander Cordeel
Jens Debusschere
Kenny Dehaes
Gert Dockx
Jonas Vangenechten
Frederik Willems
Marcel Sieberg

a real young team who must get some experience for the future

 

[Lexman]

updated provisional startlist

http://www.standaard.be/artikel/detail.aspx?artikelid=DMF20120330_033

 

[theyoungest]

Team Lotto Belisol for sunday

Gaëtan Bille
Sander Cordeel
Jens Debusschere
Kenny Dehaes
Gert Dockx
Jonas Vangenechten
Frederik Willems
Marcel Sieberg

a real young team who must get some experience for the future

Wow. If you'd told me it was the Topsport Vlaanderen line up I'd have believed you as well.

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

Wow. If you'd told me it was the Topsport Vlaanderen line up I'd have believed you as well.

was thinking the same

 

[Lexman]

what do you think of Voeckler's chances?

 

[Kvinto]

i think he'll DNF

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

what do you think of Voeckler's chances?

meh, top 50 perhaps

 

[El Pistolero]

Voeckler's engine is not big enough for the long classics.

 

[Froome19]

Voeckler's engine is not big enough for the long classics.

You would never have thought he could hold the jersey until Alpe de huez yet his determination won through.
I think he could suprise people if he finds himself in a selection of 30 riders or so just because his will to win is more than a lot of other riders.
Saying that he hasnt been on great form so I doubt he can do much

 

[El Pistolero]

You would never have thought he could hold the jersey until Alpe de huez yet his determination won through.
I think he could suprise people if he finds himself in a selection of 30 riders or so just because his will to win is more than a lot of other riders.
Saying that he hasnt been on great form so I doubt he can do much

Even last year he came too short in the classics.

There's a difference between 200km stages and races of 260km. Some have the engine for it, some don't.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Voeckler's engine is not big enough for the long classics.

I still laugh hard at lats years tour and what you and others said about voeckler there. voeckler is like vino(less class of course a bit). if he wants it he can do it

 

[El Pistolero]

Voeckler has no class, never had and never will get it. I didn't say anything about Voeckler last year anyway.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

that he could never top ten or hold the jersey in the mountains. I;'m sure of it and also others said this.

 

[El Pistolero]

Everyone said that. No one predicted Voeckler would get in the top 10 of the Tour before it started. That's why Voeckler is called the surprise of the Tour.

Stage 1 and 4 were stages for puncheurs, which he is first and foremost and he failed there. Stages like that say more about someone's classic potential than a mountain finish.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

maybe not before the topur started but when he got yellow I was one of those who said voeckler could do top ten or even top 5. as he's that type of rider that changes when his mentality changes

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Everyone said that. No one predicted Voeckler would get in the top 10 of the Tour before it started. That's why Voeckler is called the surprise of the Tour.

Stage 1 and 4 were stages for puncheurs, which he is first and foremost and he failed there. Stages like that say more about someone's classic potential than a mountain finish.

you don't need to be a p[uncheur to win classics. just ask vino who won lbl twice and agr

 

[dlwssonic]

Voeckler has no class, never had and never will get it. I didn't say anything about Voeckler last year anyway.

lol very true indeed.