I didn't find it boring at all..... and I don't understand people that did.Everyone is calling today's race boring but it seem to happen in one them most years so its ironic compared to the posts and the fact these are two of the most anticipated races of the year.
Exactly seeing those two sprint full ball trying to drop each other on every climb like a PCM game would be epic but its just unrealistic. I still would prefer the epic grinds of these races and climbs like Angrilu over some of the shorter punchier races.I didn't find it boring at all..... and I don't understand people that did.
It was the epic showdown to the classics season we had all anticipated, complete with an insane Alaphilippe mishap.
They need to be away, far away, out of the f-ing way, not pull over one meter to the side before a 3 up break in the throes of compitition, concentrating utterly on winning the race!They can't disappear into thin air. Rider should also take care to pass them with sufficient margin, but intead they like to get every cm of drag they can get.
Did you even see the incident? The moto was over as far as it could have been. The road had straight lines of sight. I don't know how it could be more obvious that Alaphillipe should have paid better attention.They need to be away, far away, out of the f-ing way, not pull over one meter to the side before a 3 up break in the throes of compitition, concentrating utterly on winning the race!
These dang vehicles' drivers seem to have forgotten that they are just support and not the race itself. And there are simply too many of them for the safety of these pro events. It's becoming a farce with all the major races mutilated, because some idiot driver doesn't have the sense to stay sufficiently out of the way.
A rider shouldn't ever be made to "take the care" to pass them, let alone at the most critical point in the race. Rather drivers should get the hell out of the picture whenever stopping. The last thing a rider should have to do is worry about support vehicles taking them down! It's become an obstacle course.
Of course I saw the race. Why was that motorcycle so close as to allow Van Aert to be in its slipstream in the first place? That's against the rules number one and secondly what was the driver thinking in all but pulling up like that whilst staying in the way? He stayed in the way because he was not off the road. That motorcycle (and the others) should never have been so close to the trio to begin with. While any driver prior to slowing down or pulling over to let the riders go by whilst still on the roadside, should first get about 70 meters ahead before doing so. This would have allowed each rider plenty of heads-up to pass, but it didn't happen that way and the result was disastrous for both rider and race. Regardless of what Alaphilippe was doing at the time, no rider should simply ever be put in that position if the drivers are doing their jobs correctly. The driver, not the rider, was badly positioned. This must be clear or else the riders play second fiddle, which is patently ridiculous. The point being, I stress, that it isn't the riders' duty to stay out of the way of the motorbikes, but the other way around - at all times. The riders have enough to worry about just managing in the peleton and dealing with the stress of the race. Let's not add to it by intrusive motorbikes. We have been seeing this a lot lately unfortunately.Did you even see the incident? The moto was over as far as it could have been. The road had straight lines of sight. I don't know how it could be more obvious that Alaphillipe should have paid better attention.
The motorbike was WvA's target to get some draft. The moment they got close, it slowed down.WVA pulled a fast one by waiting till the last second before swerving to the left to avoid the motor-bike. MVDP just managed to avoid a wreck, and poor ol' JA had no idea what was coming. Wout is, in my opinion, a bit of a jack-ass. He whines when things don't go the way he wants, but that's really here nor there.
The guy leading the trio knew the moto in front was basically at a standstill. He waited till the last second before swerving, no doubt wondering if the riders behind were paying attention.
How can you say that was a rubbish race?Rubbish race but glad MVDP won it
I think this is the real problem. Riders will look to draft behind motos and cars any chance they get, and its inherently dangerous. And there's literally no reason to be following a vehicle except for trying to gain an unfair advantage. It should be against the rules at all times and punished accordingly, then it would soon stop, and the risk of crashes would be reduced.Van Aert admitted he was taking the motorbike's slipstream. I don't really blame him for that, as any rider put in such a position on instinct takes advantage of the draft. Pulling out of the way as the Belgian did, if certainly not intending to make his rivals crash, at the same time wasn't helpful. But the real issue was the motorbike being in the way and that is only the dirver's fault.
No this isn't an issue of "driving down the road". It's a bike race and the motorcycle drivers, while there for the security of the race, indeed need to stay out of its way. But clearly that was not the case. Sure riders normally even watch out for the race "traffic", however, the onus is on that "traffic" to stay clear of the action.If I'm driving down the road and a car in front of me slows down to stop, if I don't pay attention to what is going on in front of me I will crash into it. Guess what, it's my fault. No different with riders on bikes whether in competition or social cycling.
Sure but my point was that the motorbike/s must be sufficiently up the road, or else the rider will either be forced to take a different line (when the road should be his to decide which one is best) or else be "forced" to take the slipstream. In this particualar case Van Aert needed to take a right line, since the road was curving in that direction. All the more reason the motorbikes should have been further away and not obsructing the best line at the time to take.I think this is the real problem. Riders will look to draft behind motos and cars any chance they get, and its inherently dangerous. And there's literally no reason to be following a vehicle except for trying to gain an unfair advantage. It should be against the rules at all times and punished accordingly, then it would soon stop, and the risk of crashes would be reduced.
Agree fully to everything above. To the quoted part - when the road has a right bend the motorbike should definitively stay to the left.And then, correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the motorbikes always supposed to stay on the left when either relenting or stopping?
The only thing I'm contrary to is the notion that WvA should have given the motorbike a wider berth (even if strictly speaking, yes), for the first reason on your list (as I too have stressed). That error to me trumps all the rest. The riders have priority, not the motorbikes, and when it comes to chosing the best line it is their prerogative. In this case the motorbike was on the right where that best line was, not to mention he should have been way further ahead/away and above all not there in that moment. Plus it caused Alaphilippe to "have to look out for something", he shouldn't have had to do.Man, tough call as to blame etc. Plenty to go around.
Yes, the moto should have been WAY FARTHER away from the riders, ideally on the left.
Yes, WvA should have swung to the center earlier
Yes, Alaf should have been paying attention.
Yes WvA should had called out "MOTO" or something as a warning.
I'm going to be a bit of a contrarian and say that, primarily, WvA should have given the moto a wider berth. It looks like he had plenty of time/space to do so, but in the heat of a breakaway, he was probably just focusing on pulling etc. I don't blame him for trying to get a draft but you need to be really careful. I'm amazed we don't have more crashes like this, especially when riders are trying to come back to the peloton after a flat etc. I see some riders get within 20 cm of another team's car all the time...
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