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buckle said:
"Unusually for a track coach, Salzwedel is a believer in altitude camps and road races for his track riders, meaning he has had them schlepping up Mt Teide in Tenerife, most famously used by Team Sky for their Tour de France preparations, for much of the winter".
All this plus magic bikes and good hotels is all you need ...
link to the quote:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cycling/2016/02/29/sir-bradley-wiggins-if-heiko-salzwedel-had-not-have-come-back-i/

On a side, Salzwedel's right hand at RusVelo, Russian-born Australian physiotherapist Popov (mainly known for working with McEwen), is a fan of altitude training, too.
Here he is making propaganda for 'altitude rooms'.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_Hdcxn1yAQ
It's an interesting clip. Watch from 1:38, and then ask why Salzwedel is still sending his riders to Tenerife when those altitude rooms allow you to save "hundreds of thousands" of dollars (according to Popov).
I can think of plenty of additional gains from not sending your riders to Tenerife but sending them into an altitude room.
 
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wouldn't it be good if one of the sacked BC coaches spilled the beans but they would have to incriminate themselves wouldn't they so not much chance I guess. Can only live in hope. One thing for sure. It's a nasty place to be a part of. At what cost does success come at?
 
Being escorted off premises is pretty standard in any company when you're sacked in UK.
As for the sacking, if you wanted to find the German version of Sutton, Salzwedel's your man lol. I'm amazed it's taken this long, he would have been the first I would have thought would go now the new millenials are beginning their 4 year cycle.
 
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It's one thing to say it's standard procedure to be escorted from the building but come on guys, how bad does this look with the recent history at British Cycling? There's a bad smell about the whole BC set up. It's a septic place that Manchester velodrome.
 
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Craigee said:
It's one thing to say it's standard procedure to be escorted from the building but come on guys, how bad does this look with the recent history at British Cycling? There's a bad smell about the whole BC set up. It's a septic place that Manchester velodrome.
Like Sam says, this isn't uncommon in UK especially in a competitive environment such as sport where there's a chance he could take privileged information and use it to aid whoever he works for next. They'd have wanted him out quickly before there was chance to get all the data on a flash drive or whatever.

What's more interesting is why they've chosen to sack him at all - IMO how they've gone about it tells us very little.
 
He'll have intimate knowledge of technical equipment, power data, training programmes and access to other intellectual property BC owns. As in any knowledge-based company, when sacked with immediate effect, you will be escorted off the premises to protect your company from sabotage and to protect any staff who might be involved with the reason for the sacking from verbal and/or physical abuse and confrontation.
A good example is one of my IT freinds was sacked with immediate effect. He managed the IT network of 300 hotels around the world. When sacked, he removed the CPU from the companies main server and walked out of the building with it in his coat pocket. The company couldn't operate. Had he been escorted, this could never have happened.
 
samhocking said:
He'll have intimate knowledge of technical equipment, power data, training programmes and access to other intellectual property BC owns. As in any knowledge-based company, when sacked with immediate effect, you will be escorted off the premises to protect your company from sabotage and to protect any staff who might be involved with the reason for the sacking from verbal and/or physical abuse and confrontation.
A good example is one of my IT freinds was sacked with immediate effect. He managed the IT network of 300 hotels around the world. When sacked, he removed the CPU from the companies main server and walked out of the building with it in his coat pocket. The company couldn't operate. Had he been escorted, this could never have happened.
Heated tempers sound more likely then bio/tech data on a thumb drive. He's a coach not an IT geek! :)
 
For those wetting themselves at this event: grow the *** up. Take one look at the man's CV. Do you think he keeps getting hired cause he's the type to spit in the soup after being fired? Think!
 
The why:
Further details have emerged over the sacking of Heiko Salzwedel, who was dismissed from his coaching role on Wednesday by British Cycling. According to one source, the German was called into a meeting with head coach Iain Dyer and performance director Stephen Park. Within 30 minutes, he had been told to clear his desk before Dyer escorted him from the British Cycling’s offices in Manchester. Salzwedel was told that several riders had voiced concerns over his leadership but one source has told Cyclingnews that the German was removed from his job partly because of his links to Shane Sutton and Bradley Wiggins.
Looks like BC are getting the Persil out... Ellingworth (Project Rainbow) next on the list.
 
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fmk_RoI said:
For those wetting themselves at this event: grow the **** up. Take one look at the man's CV. Do you think he keeps getting hired cause he's the type to spit in the soup after being fired? Think!
Well my point and I made it clear was how British Cycling looks. I haven't said anything about Salzwedel. The UK must be a horrible place to live if it's normal to sack a coach and escort him from the building without provocation. Australia sacked the women's endurance coach but he wasn't escorted from the building. New Zealand sacked their sport director and men's endurance coach after Rio but they didn't get the escort from the building either. All done amicably which is what England was once well known for. Is this good English reputation now a thing of the past? Sad

You actually contradict yourself saying he has a good CV yet still got the old heave ho, *** off, with an escort from the building.

Think about it.
 
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Craigee said:
You actually contradict yourself saying he has a good CV yet still got the old heave ho, *** off, with an escort from the building.
The ability to read helps when you're here. I never said he had a good CV. The fact that he keeps getting fired matters, of course it matters: but it equally matters that he keeps getting hired, several times in the case of BC. So, as I said, look at his CV. Do you think he keeps getting hired cause he's the type to spit in the soup after being fired? Think!
 
samhocking said:
He'll have intimate knowledge of technical equipment, power data, training programmes and access to other intellectual property BC owns.
Plus, you don't need a negative influence around in an environment like that, and after being fired I think it's a pretty safe bet he'd be a negative influence.

Frankly, any employer who doesn't immediately show fired employees to the door is playing with fire. Hell, half the time you should walk employees who resign too.
 
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samhocking said:
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A good example is one of my IT freinds was sacked with immediate effect. He managed the IT network of 300 hotels around the world. When sacked, he removed the CPU from the companies main server and walked out of the building with it in his coat pocket. The company couldn't operate. Had he been escorted, this could never have happened.
I call BS on this one. You wouldn't have a "main server", you would have a server farm with racks in a room with raised floors and special cooling/ventilation. The room would also have a halon or similar fire suppression system and tight restrictions on access. Some of that would be due to safety concerns due to the fire suppression system that could be lethal.

So I really don't think he popped a CPU in his pocket and brought the system down. It doesn't work that way. Even if it did, there'd be spare parts for replacement. They'd be back up in 20 minutes.

I get the sentiment though. If someone is being fired "for cause", then they need to be gotten rid of right away since they've already done something egregious enough to be sacked. On the other hand, you tend to want to keep people around as long as possible to manage the transition and exchange knowledge. For example, when I was let go this year I was kept on for seven weeks to finish my research, document everything, and bring others up to speed on my work.

John Swanson
 
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fmk_RoI said:
Craigee said:
You actually contradict yourself saying he has a good CV yet still got the old heave ho, *** off, with an escort from the building.
The ability to read helps when you're here. I never said he had a good CV. The fact that he keeps getting fired matters, of course it matters: but it equally matters that he keeps getting hired, several times in the case of BC. So, as I said, look at his CV. Do you think he keeps getting hired cause he's the type to spit in the soup after being fired? Think!
Lesson. You can't bully grown men on the internet. haha

My answer to your question is that he wouldn't spit in his soup or spill any beans because he would incriminate himself. Regarding the motors I mean.
 
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ScienceIsCool said:
samhocking said:
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A good example is one of my IT freinds was sacked with immediate effect. He managed the IT network of 300 hotels around the world. When sacked, he removed the CPU from the companies main server and walked out of the building with it in his coat pocket. The company couldn't operate. Had he been escorted, this could never have happened.
I call BS on this one. You wouldn't have a "main server", you would have a server farm with racks in a room with raised floors and special cooling/ventilation. The room would also have a halon or similar fire suppression system and tight restrictions on access. Some of that would be due to safety concerns due to the fire suppression system that could be lethal.

So I really don't think he popped a CPU in his pocket and brought the system down. It doesn't work that way. Even if it did, there'd be spare parts for replacement. They'd be back up in 20 minutes.

I get the sentiment though. If someone is being fired "for cause", then they need to be gotten rid of right away since they've already done something egregious enough to be sacked. On the other hand, you tend to want to keep people around as long as possible to manage the transition and exchange knowledge. For example, when I was let go this year I was kept on for seven weeks to finish my research, document everything, and bring others up to speed on my work.

John Swanson
Yes that's how I see most dismissals with most jobs. Have just remembered that the head NZ coach has announced his resignation in their papers but it isn't until after next year's Commonwealth Games to make it a nice slow transition to head coach for the present assistant coach. None of that for Salswedel. Gee it's a poor look for British Cycling. They would all be looking out for a knife in the back for sure.
 
Craigee said:
Yes that's how I see most dismissals with most jobs. Have just remembered that the head NZ coach has announced his resignation in their papers but it isn't until after next year's Commonwealth Games to make it a nice slow transition to head coach for the present assistant coach. None of that for Salswedel. Gee it's a poor look for British Cycling. They would all be looking out for a knife in the back for sure.
The jump from dismissal to resignation - actually, to not renewing a contract - is ... athletic.
 
Going from the reporting, it seems Dyer got some complaints and with an opportunity to clean out the old guard, gave Salzwedel a chance to say his bit but messed it up and so got the boot. 30 minutes from sitting down to going out the door seems like this was "in the air".
 

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