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pmcg76 said:
The Hitch said:
pmcg76 said:
The Hitch said:
So the winner of the 2008 Olympics was doping. Wasn't that one of the years where jv declared there was no more doping in cycling
This comment was already redundant due to Davide Rebellin or did you forget.
I think its fair to say that anyone who takes throwaway comments from JV as fact are certifiable idiots, the way that line keeps getting repeated here just goes to show just how many idiots are actually here.
It was not a throwaway comment I was reacting to but an article penned by Vaughters we dug up a few years ago where he said directly that cyclists don't dope anymore. In 2008.
I used to defend him, but anyone with a shred of integrity would have withdrawn themselves from the sport after being proved wrong so many times (thats assuming he actually believed what he was saying)
Its clear by now that Vaughters is running a basic scam where every year he tells people in the US that cycling is clean so that they keep watching (good for business for him). He even tries to coopt people like Landis behind the scenes to make sure they give the same message and dont go to hard after current cycling and make sure they only talk about the big bad past.
Then everytime he gets proved wrong he will just repeat the same thing the next year and ignore the fact that he said the same **** a year earlier.
Because of this scam, we are entitled to take shots at him for it. Now and for ever. If he ever apologises and shows some humility, sure i wont be an ******* about it, its not like he killed anyone, but since he's a shameless fraud for now, he gets what he deserves
That has to be the most pathetic justification I have seen for bringing someone into a thread that is not related to them. Seems more like a childish move to get the approval of the usual peanut gallery.
In chronological order:
*JV dopes.
*JV lies about it, makes money and rep, uses rep to rise in the sport.
* JV eventually gets caught lying about some of his lies.
* Negotiates behind the scenes and pretends to come clean.
* Other aspects of JV's story continue to unravel.
* JV continues to lie and break promises.
* years later a poster on an internet form is reminded of JV's lies and makes a throaway comment mocking JV for one of his lies.
Sorry mate but theres something wrong with your view of the world when you think the person making a comment about it is the bad guy and JV isn't.
What is he your father or something that you defend him from any attack? when its deserved as well.
I hate to give you a tutorial to the internet (or life even) but people who *** up and lie can get mocked for it for ever. Thats the price you pay. And its better that way. Teaches future generations that if you act like a slimy prat there might be a very very small price to pay.
As for the motivation you assigned to me, thats just stupid and makes no logical sense. The idea that I pick my opinions in order to please other people is offensive (dont worry im not an sjw so dont care) and more importantly doesn't match at all with my posting history on here.
If I actually did post in order to make people like me I would do it more often. Better yet, I could just go back to twitter, make the same post, and since several of the more popular anti doping people still follow me (tucker, digger, vayer etc), with a bit of luck could get a lot of likes and retweets, if I cared about that ***.
I don't. I just remembered 2 days ago when I made the post, that Samu won the olympics on 2008. I remembered that back then people were trying to sell sport as clean (the Beijing olympics for example) and how could I think about people claiming sport is clean without JV coming to mind, seeing how hard he fought to make himself the centre of the "we made cycling clean" parade for all those years.
Well *** him, the liar. I enjoyed making the little potshot at him, even if he didnt read it, even if no one read it. i will enjoy it again the next time I am reminded of it. If JV doesnt like it he should change and become a better person, or if he gets another chance at life, not cheat and lie to advance his own career. Tough ***. Responsibility is a ***.