Schlecks Depreciation Thread

[El Pistolero]

Wasn't it that race in Switzerland? Where only 10 guys finished because of the crap weather? The GP Lugano or something.

Giro del Friuli. And I think Lugano as well.

 

[airstream]

lol, no ardennes dont require any effort

could you develop a special methodology of preparation for him?

Contador wins from January and thus honors every race he enters and its fans. Andy Schleck threats every race as if it's training which is disrespectful both to the race itself and to fans who care about cycling outside of July. I think it all comes down to laziness, the guy simply doesn't want to train hard for anything but TDF as he doesn't care. Even Armstrong had much better results outside of TDF than Andy has had the last two years. Then you have recent TDF winners like Contador and Evans who always ride to win, so it's not like it's not possible.

 

[airstream]

lol, no ardennes dont require any effort

could you develop a special methodology of preparation for him?

Contador wins from January and thus honors every race he enters and its fans. Andy Schleck threats every race as if it's training which is disrespectful both to the race itself and to fans who care about cycling outside of July. I think it all comes down to laziness, the guy simply doesn't want to train hard for anything but TDF as he doesn't care. Even Armstrong had much better results outside of TDF than Andy has had the last two years. Then you have recent TDF winners like Contador and Evans who always ride to win, so it's not like it's not possible.

to each his own. theres no direct relationship. problem can be solved simply - by reducing the requirements for schleck instead of perception of his statements so that it would be easier to critisize him. riders know 100 times as much as all of us together about capabilities of organism, how and when to ride and to what degree to struggle. however, some forum members reason as if schleck owes them something.

 

[blaxland]

Andy once again opens his mouth and spews out all sorts of excuses and garbage for all to here...Hey Andy here,s some free advice "just go and train mate"...not to long till july now".....come july i dont care who wins as long as its not Randy' Andy Schleck.

 

[pedaling squares]

Andy might as well win.

 

[woodenswan]

The problem with sharing a brain is, that occasionally the other guy has it.

good one
damn it must be difficult these days to remain a fan of the walking stick! honestly, lets give it up for all the members here who are still fans!

 

[thehog]

Armstrong won the Dauphiné, Suisse and was always good at Amstel Gold Race. Kid doesn't know anything about cycling, ban him already. This stupidity is far worse than 50 pictogram clenbuterol.

My concern is the "hiding" away factor. Good god we'll have Sky just like Postal and RS-Leopard only showing face for the Tour.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Andy once again opens his mouth and spews out all sorts of excuses and garbage for all to here...Hey Andy here,s some free advice "just go and train mate"...not to long till july now".....come july i dont care who wins as long as its not Randy' Andy Schleck.

 

[greenedge]

Tell me this is a parody: Andy Schleck is now saying that in the past he has not focused enough on the Tour.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/andy-schleck-focused-more-than-ever-on-the-tour-de-france

"Maybe sometimes I did a bit too much to prepare these races, like doing Pays Basque and going really deep. I was focusing on the Classics maybe too much, and I've got to change this year so I'm better at the Tour, especially at the start of the Tour," Schleck said. "If you look at the past, Lance Armstrong won the Tour seven times and you never saw him in any races other than the Tour."

I'm confused as well but it might work ( next year ).

Armstrong won a WC, not just the TDF and would animate quite a few races.

He also won the Dauphinie/ Suisse.

 

[AussieGoddess]

It has taken him the best part of his career to get that build-up just right though. I think the problem is that build up is so specific now that a bad crash or a week of illness can mess up a given riders goals for the season. After that it is hard to tell weather it was the illness/crash 'going to deep' at the wrong race or simply the wrong build up.

Didnt Evans have an injury last year, and thats why he didnt do the Ardennes? And why he had so few race days ...

It is surprising looking at the total race days of each (evans and andy) ... just goes to show that its actually RACING that counts, not just entering the races and training.

 

[theyoungest]

Didnt Evans have an injury last year, and thats why he didnt do the Ardennes? And why he had so few race days ...

It is surprising looking at the total race days of each (evans and andy) ... just goes to show that its actually RACING that counts, not just entering the races and training.

Not for Andy though. Before arguably his best Tour in 2010 he had a lacklustre spring, he even had a knee injury.

But if he argues that it's the best prep for everyone to hardly race before the Tour, he's wrong.

 

[movingtarget]

Didnt Evans have an injury last year, and thats why he didnt do the Ardennes? And why he had so few race days ...

It is surprising looking at the total race days of each (evans and andy) ... just goes to show that its actually RACING that counts, not just entering the races and training.

Evans is never off the bike. He trains through the off season, not seriously but he always starts the racing season in pretty good shape. Now he is racing less but doing quality training in training camps on mountain climbs etc....Schleck is now talking about what Lance Armstrong used to do to win the TDF. What gives ? It sounds like he is looking for an easy way to win the TDF and there is none.

 

[Climeon]

Schleck seemingly has a far lower base level than Contador and Evans and consequently can't be competitive in races all year round as he has to train far harder to be competetive and would quickly become exhausted if he attempted to be competitive in races all year round

 

[Angliru]

could you develop a special methodology of preparation for him?

to each his own. theres no direct relationship. problem can be solved simply - by reducing the requirements for schleck instead of perception of his statements so that it would be easier to critisize him. riders know 100 times as much as all of us together about capabilities of organism, how and when to ride and to what degree to struggle. however, some forum members reason as if schleck owes them something.

How/why is it that his own brother can be competitive virtually year round and he can't? Why is it that they (ds', manager's) allow him to slack off of his training to such a degree? Just compare their results and it just makes one wonder.

 

[airstream]

How/why is it that his own brother can be competitive virtually year round and he can't? Why is it that they (ds', manager's) allow him to slack off of his training to such a degree? Just compare their results and it just makes one wonder.

i dont know, possibly, nobody knows. maybe he either share a cake with the brother or doesnt like other races. i wonder why it's necessary to make fun of one of the most prominent rider nowadays just because he doesnt aim to show the maximum result in any race he participates. its an antipathy amain.

 

[LaFlorecita]

i dont know, possibly, nobody knows. maybe he either share a cake with the brother or doesnt like other races. i wonder why it's necessary to make fun of one of the most prominent rider nowadays just because he doesnt aim to show the maximum result in any race he participates. its an antipathy amain.

That. Or better: he doesn't care about them. Only the Tour counts. But this way, Andy baby might end up with just one stage race win on his palmares, and he hasn't even won that one. Now that's ironic.

 

[airstream]

That. Or better: he doesn't care about them. Only the Tour counts. But this way, Andy baby might end up with just one stage race win on his palmares, and he hasn't even won that one. Now that's ironic.

One more try to oppose one rider another. its his business. he had zero, if i remember correctly. Have you put up with it?)

 

[Panda Claws]

That. Or better: he doesn't care about them. Only the Tour counts. But this way, Andy baby might end up with just one stage race win on his palmares, and he hasn't even won that one. Now that's ironic.

I get that you still count the 2010 Tour ( and 2011 Giro)as won by Contador, but by that logic Contador didn't really win the 2007 Tour.

 

[Angliru]

Schleck seemingly has a far lower base level than Contador and Evans and consequently can't be competitive in races all year round as he has to train far harder to be competetive and would quickly become exhausted if he attempted to be competitive in races all year round

What is your basis for this analysis may I ask?

 

[LaFlorecita]

I get that you still count the 2010 Tour ( and 2011 Giro)as won by Contador, but by that logic Contador didn't really win the 2007 Tour.

Maybe, maybe not. That one is difficult. He wouldn't have won it if Chicken wasn't taken out of the race. But otoh, he did win it on the roads, he raced into Paris wearing the yellow jersey. So he did win it. If Chicken had won it, and was stripped of his title later, I wouldn't count that one as one of Alberto's wins.

 

[LaFlorecita]

One more try to oppose one rider another. its his business. he had zero, if i remember correctly. Have you put up with it?)

What do you mean? I don't understand?

 

[Angliru]

i dont know, possibly, nobody knows. maybe he either share a cake with the brother or doesnt like other races. i wonder why it's necessary to make fun of one of the most prominent rider nowadays just because he doesnt aim to show the maximum result in any race he participates. its an antipathy amain.

In part I was thinking the same thing. It's obvious he wants success for his brother, seemingly almost above his own. Still though that doesn't explain when they aren't at the same race which is often the case in stage races prior to the Tour.

 

[Echoes]

What we just naming random riders here?

Riders who are consistent in classics and GT ... (like Andy ... so far, at least)

 

[The Hitch]

Riders who are consistent in classics and GT ... (like Andy ... so far, at least)

Samuel sanchez is better at classics and gts than gesink and nibali so don't see why he's not on the list
Joaquim Rodriguez?

Then there's valverde.

 

[Echoes]

What made you think the list was exhaustive?