Schlecks Depreciation Thread

[woodenswan]

pretty much that he would have won the tour if the traitor that is carlos sastre hadn't attacked on the alp d'huez. . . .

thx. arrogant remarks obviously. although i must admit, i expected something much worse cursing out relatives, death threats etc.

 

[The Hitch]

thx. arrogant remarks obviously. although i must admit, i expected something much worse cursing out relatives, death threats etc.

Actually may have a point.

I may have mixed up some of Andys words about Sastre with Franks.

Frank does continue to, even 4 years later, moan that he wishes Sastre hadnt won the Tour http://translate.google.com/transla...nalt/Forside/Da-Schleckene-ble-forbannet-8900

But it does seem that even in this case, the most ridiculous comes from Andy's mouth, such as claiming that the won the Tour for Sastre.

Maybe Frank isnt such a bad guy afterall, no saint, but not as bad as Andy.

However he does also have a Tour only attitude. Not a catergory 5 disease like andy, but only when compared to Andy does he try in other races.

Like Andy hes missing the Ardennes this year, like Andy hes skipping a Giro that suits him much better. Andy was critisced for taking the **** in Pais Vasco but he still beat Frank who came 16th.

He never really brings it in any WT stage race apart from Suisse win which was TDF form anyway.

Yes he won Criterium International, but thats hardly much to brag about for allegedly one of the 5 best climbers in the world, when riders like Valverde, Contador, Nibali, J Rod, Levi, Evans etc rack these kind of wins up for fun.

And hes very overated. Not neccesarily his fault I know, but when you read an article saying that Frank Schleck can "win Paris Nice if he feels like it", but Samu Sanchez is too poor a tter, as is Sylvain Chavannel you just dont know whether to laugh or cry.

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest/517753/paris-nice-2011-who-will-win.html

 

[frandy]

Actually may have a point.

I may have mixed up some of Andys words about Sastre with Franks.

Frank does continue to, even 4 years later, moan that he wishes Sastre hadnt won the Tour http://translate.google.com/transla...nalt/Forside/Da-Schleckene-ble-forbannet-8900

But it does seem that even in this case, the most ridiculous comes from Andy's mouth, such as claiming that the won the Tour for Sastre.

Maybe Frank isnt such a bad guy afterall, no saint, but not as bad as Andy.

However he does also have a Tour only attitude. Not a catergory 5 disease like andy, but only when compared to Andy does he try in other races.

Like Andy hes missing the Ardennes this year, like Andy hes skipping a Giro that suits him much better. Andy was critisced for taking the **** in Pais Vasco but he still beat Frank who came 16th.

He never really brings it in any WT stage race apart from Suisse win which was TDF form anyway.

Yes he won Criterium International, but thats hardly much to brag about for allegedly one of the 5 best climbers in the world, when riders like Valverde, Contador, Nibali, J Rod, Levi, Evans etc rack these kind of wins up for fun.

And hes very overated. Not neccesarily his fault I know, but when you read an article saying that Frank Schleck can "win Paris Nice if he feels like it", but Samu Sanchez is too poor a tter, as is Sylvain Chavannel you just dont know whether to laugh or cry.

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest/517753/paris-nice-2011-who-will-win.html

Fast forward and frank has a Tour podium lol

 

[LaFlorecita]

Fast forward and frank has a Tour podium lol

 

[frandy]

y u confused it was an article in 2010 and he was saying frank has done nuffin well he got a podium this year hence why i said fast forward a year lol

 

[LaFlorecita]

are you confused it was an article in 2010 and he was saying frank has done nothing well he got a podium this year hence why i said fast forward a year lol

The article is from December 2011.

 

[airstream]

I root for them to lose, but not secretly.

theres gonna be much mourning in july.

 

[hughmoore]

I still dont get how Frank thinks he would have won the GC.

He was ten seconds in front of Evans going into Alpe Duez.

Sastre gained 2 mins because initially Evans didnt chase, he rolled the dice and won.

Evans let Sastre go, as he was defending against Frank, Sastre rode well, Cadel couldnt peg him back.

Does he think Cadel would have let Frank ride off and get 3 mins.

He lost 3mins 23 in the TT.

How does he think he would of won? Or am I missing something?


Hugh

 

[airstream]

no way for sure. moreover, given how worn out evans, valverde and the others were, it was possible to get away all three together as a piece of cake but frank laid an egg as usual, at the most important moment.

 

[cineteq]

I still dont get how Frank thinks he would have won the GC.

He was ten seconds in front of Evans going into Alpe Duez.

Sastre gained 2 mins because initially Evans didnt chase, he rolled the dice and won.

Evans let Sastre go, as he was defending against Frank, Sastre rode well, Cadel couldnt peg him back.

Does he think Cadel would have let Frank ride off and get 3 mins.

He lost 3mins 23 in the TT.

How does he think he would of won? Or am I missing something?

Nope, you're right on target.

 

[maltiv]

I still dont get how Frank thinks he would have won the GC.

He was ten seconds in front of Evans going into Alpe Duez.

Sastre gained 2 mins because initially Evans didnt chase, he rolled the dice and won.

Evans let Sastre go, as he was defending against Frank, Sastre rode well, Cadel couldnt peg him back.

Does he think Cadel would have let Frank ride off and get 3 mins.

He lost 3mins 23 in the TT.

How does he think he would of won? Or am I missing something?


Hugh

As I previously mentioned in this thread, if Frank were going to win the TDF that year, given that his time trial performance remain constant, he would have had to do the fastest ascend of Alpe d'Huez of all time.

 

[Angliru]

theres gonna be much mourning in july.

I'll send you flowers, a sympathy card and a box of tissue.

 

[LaFlorecita]

I'll send you flowers, a sympathy card and a box of tissue.

Send me some too?

 

[LaFlorecita]

I root for them to lose, but not secretly.

Haha lol. Them losing makes my day.

 

[Angliru]

Send me some too?

Certainly! I think we can take pleasure in knowing that Contador will be back at the Vuelta and the after Tour events, wreaking havoc like a force of nature, all while Andy and Frank will be at home sucking their thumbs over having lost another Tour.

 

[woodenswan]

Certainly! I think we can take pleasure in knowing that Contador will be back at the Vuelta and the after Tour events, wreaking havoc like a force of nature, all while Andy and Frank will be at home sucking their thumbs over having lost another Tour.

Amen

10 char

 

[airstream]

anything can happen. be ready to eat crow too just in case. it would be really interesting to read some regulars' explanations, in case andy gets equal to contador by the number of the tour titles.

 

[Carols]

anything can happen. be ready to eat crow too just in case. it would be really interesting to read some regulars' explanations, in case andy gets equal to contador by the number of the tour titles.

Has to win on the road not in the courts....and Ride like a winner not a whiner. We shall see.....

Your loyalty is admirable though, shame you don't use it on a winner

 

[El Pistolero]

anything can happen. be ready to eat crow too just in case. it would be really interesting to read some regulars' explanations, in case andy gets equal to contador by the number of the tour titles.

If you live in a fairy tale world anything can happen, but I wouldn't count on it.

 

[Froome19]

Has to win on the road not in the courts....and Ride like a winner not a whiner. We shall see.....

Your loyalty is admirable though, shame you don't use it on a winner

He was never involved in Contador's case and he was the best rider in the tour and was first on GC(GC wise) ,therefore to say he hasn't won the tour in pure idiocy
Yet I agree with you concerning the whining.

 

[airstream]

Has to win on the road not in the courts....and Ride like a winner not a whiner. We shall see.....

Your loyalty is admirable though, shame you don't use it on a winner

im pretty sure 90% of stuff depends on initial perception. one would like to concentrate on cycling, other one - on whining. thats why i root for andy's beautiful attacks, his alchemy of climbing in every movement, ability to be oneself. harping about whining is often just an attempt to justify a personal dislike. The guy won the most prestigious one day race + most prestigious gt.thats more than enough. the forum is full of guys who consider themselves to be real cycling fans herewith hating one of the best riders. it puzzles me

 

[The Hitch]

im pretty sure 90% of stuff depends on initial perception. one would like to concentrate on cycling, other one - on whining. thats why i root for andy's beautiful attacks, his alchemy of climbing in every movement, ability to be oneself. harping about whining is often just an attempt to justify a personal dislike. The guy won the most prestigious one day race + most prestigious gt.thats more than enough. the forum is full of guys who consider themselves to be real cycling fans herewith hating one of the best riders. it puzzles me

Whats puzzling you? Andy is hated because he hates.

Nothing to do with whining. I dont care what he cries about.

I don't like him becuase he is a bully. He tells Moncoutie that hes ***. He tells Sastre hes not a deserving champion. He tells Sanchez and Contador and Vanendert that they never attacked in the mountains, only he did.

I dont like Andy the same way I don't like the kid in a school who singles out smaller kids to make fun of and hurt.

 

[c&cfan]

im pretty sure 90% of stuff depends on initial perception. one would like to concentrate on cycling, other one - on whining. thats why i root for andy's beautiful attacks, his alchemy of climbing in every movement, ability to be oneself. harping about whining is often just an attempt to justify a personal dislike. The guy won the most prestigious one day race + most prestigious gt.thats more than enough. the forum is full of guys who consider themselves to be real cycling fans herewith hating one of the best riders. it puzzles me

sorry but andy has won 0 gts.

 

[jens_attacks]

same here.pics or it didn't happen,andy has yet to win a grand tour.he knows it and unfortunately this puts even more pressure on his shoulders.

 

[virandociclista]

im pretty sure 90% of stuff depends on initial perception. one would like to concentrate on cycling, other one - on whining. thats why i root for andy's beautiful attacks, his alchemy of climbing in every movement, ability to be oneself. harping about whining is often just an attempt to justify a personal dislike. The guy won the most prestigious one day race + most prestigious gt.thats more than enough. the forum is full of guys who consider themselves to be real cycling fans herewith hating one of the best riders. it puzzles me

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