Schlecks Depreciation Thread

[jobiwan]

I for one am proud of Andy and Frank's Tour this year. But the better man won.

Andy knows what he has to do now. He has to get much better in the TT and he has to do more of this...

Thanks for a great Tour Andy!! You'll get 'em next year!

 

[veganrob]

I don't know how anyone can defend Andy. This Tour was his for the taking. Problem was he rode like everyone was supposed to lie down for him. He's got no heart. If he had the heart of Cadel or AC or lot of other guys he would have won. He is an arrogant little ***. He dinked around and lost time in place he shouldn't have and did not try to put in time others. Save one stage. What is he going to do now? Guaranteed Next year AC will focus on TdF and have a better team also. Andy should maybe try the Vuelta. He can't ride Giro. Even if he got up the mountains he will whine all the way down. Dude has to man up one of these days. Sheesh.

 

[El Pistolero]

When you think about it, Contador made Andy lose the Tour:

- Because of Contador's attack Andy lost 8 seconds on Mur de Bretagne
- Because of Contador's attack Andy lost 1 minute and 8 seconds in Gap
- Because of Contador's attack Andy wasted a lot of energy before the Alpe Dhuez climb

Good job Contador! Andy must really hate you now.

 

[jobiwan]

When you think about it, Contador made Andy lose the Tour:

- Because of Contador's attack Andy lost 8 seconds on Mur de Bretagne
- Because of Contador's attack Andy lost 1 minute and 8 seconds in Gap
- Because of Contador's attack Andy wasted a lot of energy before the Alpe Dhuez climb

Good job Contador! Andy must really hate you now.

Yeah, Screw Contador!!

 

[Moviefan1203]

Guaranteed Next year AC will focus on TdF and have a better team also.

Contador will dominate for at least the next five years as long as he isn't suspended. (Which I'd say is 50/50 at this point)

I was really hoping Andy would become someone who can challenge Contador, but if he can't win this year, I don't know if he ever will.

 

[luckyboy]

He won't. .

 

[jobiwan]

He won't. .

Just like Cadel won't

 

[Jeanne]

He could still get last years tour

 

[luckyboy]

Yeah I know that, but he won't actually win one though.

 

[Garry Allen]

Watching the highlights last night, Cadel Evans and Andy Schleck were shown riding the same corner. Evans went into the corner hard, barely clearing the wall. Schleck was much slower through the same corner. At least some of his time losses were due to his poor bike handling. He needs to spend his off season racing cyclocross and riding single track. And he should race (not ride) any ASO races with important preview stages.

 

[VeloCity]

I don't know how anyone can defend Andy. This Tour was his for the taking.

No Tour is ever there for anyone's taking.

Problem was he rode like everyone was supposed to lie down for him. He's got no heart.

Andy was the only one of the favorites in the entire race who had the guts to lay everything on the line with one all-or-nothing attack. And it almost paid off. If that's not showing heart, what does it say about the others?

Cadel deserved to win, but only because he was the most consistent and the stronger TT'er. I can't picture anyone other than Contador doing what Andy did on the stage to the Galibier.

Ironic, the amount of whining about how whiny the Schlecks are.

 

[Kender]

yeah they had no chance against Cadel in the TT anyway. I don't think they ever will, unless Cadel has the worst day in his life or so. Andy looked very uncomfortable on his bike today IMO, worse than usual. Too nervous?

to exhausted from his hail mary on stage 18, then following contador on 19

 

[Kender]

Contador will dominate for at least the next five years as long as he isn't suspended. (Which I'd say is 50/50 at this point)

I was really hoping Andy would become someone who can challenge Contador, but if he can't win this year, I don't know if he ever will.

well like you said... 50/50. if it turns up with suspension andy will have won a tour

 

[AussieGoddess]

Actually, imo Andy just needs a good race-director with tactical skills.

This.

With better tactical skills, he can win.

He was in a position to win this year - at the bottom of Alpe d Huez there was him, Frank and Cadel all together .... and he had a 1 minute advantage. 2 on 1, with the 2 BOTH being far stronger in the mountains .... and they failed to take ANY time at all on Cadel.

They lost the tour purely poor decisions on how to use their tactical advantage (2 GC players) and in how to win in their strengths.

I think Andy will learn. I think he will one day win the Tour de France ...... but he needs to find some humility.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Andy lost the Tour on Plateau de Beille. He tried to win it back on Galibier, but Evans was having none of it.

Andy and Fränk needed to play the old-fashioned 1-2, rather than trying to Saunier Duval it with 2 men ahead of everybody else. I don't know if they underestimated Evans' climbing, or they just didn't arrive at any form until the final few days, but they certainly didn't make the Pyrenées as hard as they could have done, and until the Galibier they didn't really make Evans do anything other than control them. Evans proved he was up to the job on Galibier, and he may have won anyway, but Andy clearly needed a bit more somewhere else, and I can only really see the Pyrenées as where that time would have come.

 

[ggusta]

He could still get last years tour

Yes, he will be at least every bit the Tour winner as Oscar Pereiro is now regarded.

 

[hughmoore]

No Tour is ever there for anyone's taking. Andy was the only one of the favorites in the entire race who had the guts to lay everything on the line with one all-or-nothing attack. And it almost paid off. If that's not showing heart, what does it say about the others?

Cadel deserved to win, but only because he was the most consistent and the stronger TT'er. I can't picture anyone other than Contador doing what Andy did on the stage to the Galibier.

Ironic, the amount of whining about how whiny the Schlecks are.

He was lucky to get the time gap, had contador been able to take turns pulling, with Cadel, they would have caught him before the top.

Contador would then be on the Podium.

Cadel was awsome that day, he pulled back over two minutes, dragging the peleton along.



Hugh

 

[ggusta]

He was lucky to get the time gap, had contador been able to take turns pulling, with Cadel, they would have caught him before the top.

Contador would then be on the Podium.

Cadel was awsome that day, he pulled back over two minutes, dragging the peleton along.



Hugh

true dat. He might even be looking up at both cadel and alberto. coulda woulda shoulda. AC will make him his beyotch next year. We wil see what a stomach of anger is actually like [If AC is allowed to race. Otherwise 2013.]

 

[hrotha]

Lolzers

"On to Paris tomorrow and this Tour de France will be over! Congratulations to @CadelOfficial, the strongest one and deserving winner, some keep not winning anything..."

 

[jobiwan]

Lolzers

"On to Paris tomorrow and this Tour de France will be over! Congratulations to @CadelOfficial, the strongest one and deserving winner, some keep not winning anything..."

Yep, like Jesus Hernandez

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Yep, like Jesus Hernandez

Jesús Hernández is under no illusions as to what his aims are though. He's talking about Andy, since whichever rider lost out today (I never took Fränk seriously as an option for the win) would have come 2nd 3 times.

 

[jobiwan]

Jesús Hernández is under no illusions as to what his aims are though. He's talking about Andy, since whichever rider lost out today (I never took Fränk seriously as an option for the win) would have come 2nd 3 times.

Oh, I know! Just having a little fun after a rather disappointing, yet somewhat encouraging day!

 

[VoidSix]

I don't know that Andy is every going to be a consistent GT winner because of his time trialing. But he will consistently be in the top three of every one he enters and he will steal a 1-3 Tours over the course of his career and maybe a Giro or Vuelta.

 

[hrotha]

Yep, like Jesus Hernandez

Haha, yeah, that's the obvious counter, but Jesús Hernández is a lapdog. His master's victories are his own. As long as he gets fed and a warm place by the hearth, he's content.

 

[The Hitch]

Jesús Hernández is under no illusions as to what his aims are though. He's talking about Andy, since whichever rider lost out today (I never took Fränk seriously as an option for the win) would have come 2nd 3 times.

Cat took your sense of humor?