Schlecks Depreciation Thread

[LaFlorecita]

Lol. Andy does it again.

Can we put this in the same list as "too wet and too dangerous" and "not long and steep enough"?

 

[DominicDecoco]

So, the TT was too short for Andy?

Let me.. I just have to.. Ok. Let me..

Ok, I got it. HAHA!!

 

[DominicDecoco]

He might be in bad form and all that. At some point that's fair enough. But to argue that the TT was too short for him. That's seriously not an argument Andy can use no matter the situation. Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic.

 

[pedaling squares]

He said that the TT was too short and came too early in the season to assess his ability in the chrono. It's a valid point, unless you think that his season goals include ripping a fast prologue in the beginning of March. Andy says so much stupid crap worthy of critiquing, but this wasn't one of those times.

 

[hfer07]

Lol. Andy does it again.

Can we put this in the same list as "too wet and too dangerous" and "not long and steep enough"?

honestly: who is he trying to fool with that load of BS? Every single competition should be taken as a self test for improvement-specially when his aquiles heel keeps showing off every single time he rides......

this is embarrassing nonetheless- and at the same time so encouraging for Kloden & Horner to take over the leadership in July

 

[DominicDecoco]

I don't care when it is or how good his form is. A TT too short is not a valid point for Andy in any way.

 

[The Hitch]

Wrote this in the other thread where we were debating whether Schlecks tt will improve dramatically under the Hog, but since it was off topic and removed, I figured I don't want the 20 minutes I spent writing it to go awaste, so here goes.

Regarding Andys improvements and the d word, how does that work?

Im guessing it comes from the fact that Brunyeel "improved" Lances tt but we should remember that he also "improved" Lances climbing.

The other thing people look at is this slightly parochial view imo spouted by some that Brunyeel made all those guys last year who swept up the tts into good tters.

But they were always good tters, Brunyeel didnt make them that. Levi was always one of the best tters in the world, Kloeden was always great, Horner was always great, and then guys like Roessler and young ones like Sergeant and Kwiatkowski, I don't see them flying up mountains.

They are tt specialists, and though some of you kept spamming every thread these guys performed in a tt in with - oh noes, evil hog is working his tt magic again, the continued improvement demonstrated by St Michael of Działyń after leaving for Lotto, suggests Brunyeel isnt all there is to it.

Which brings us on to Andy. Unlike Lance Andy is already a world class climber, 2nd best probably, and meanwhile his tt is even worse than Lances was.

So what do people expect Andy to improve his tt to world beater form and for his climbing to remain static?

If there is a way to improve Andy's tt to world beater form, then that same improvement in climbing would see him go sub 35 on Alpe. And don't even get me started on what it could do for his recovery.

The point is Andys insane climbing is achieved most probably by already using similar methods to the brunyeel ones.

So I don't see what the hog can do for his tt, besides for real simply helping him with his position.

 

[Fetisoff]

Wrote this in the other thread where we were debating whether Schlecks tt will improve dramatically under the Hog, but since it was off topic and removed, I figured I don't want the 20 minutes I spent writing it to go awaste, so here goes.

Regarding Andys improvements and the d word, how does that work?

Im guessing it comes from the fact that Brunyeel "improved" Lances tt but we should remember that he also "improved" Lances climbing.

The other thing people look at is this slightly parochial view imo spouted by some that Brunyeel made all those guys last year who swept up the tts into good tters.

But they were always good tters, Brunyeel didnt make them that. Levi was always one of the best tters in the world, Kloeden was always great, Horner was always great, and then guys like Roessler and young ones like Sergeant and Kwiatkowski, I don't see them flying up mountains.

They are tt specialists, and though some of you kept spamming every thread these guys performed in a tt in with - oh noes, evil hog is working his tt magic again, the continued improvement demonstrated by St Michael of Działyń after leaving for Lotto, suggests Brunyeel isnt all there is to it.

Which brings us on to Andy. Unlike Lance Andy is already a world class climber, 2nd best probably, and meanwhile his tt is even worse than Lances was.

So what do people expect Andy to improve his tt to world beater form and for his climbing to remain static?

If there is a way to improve Andy's tt to world beater form, then that same improvement in climbing would see him go sub 35 on Alpe. And don't even get me started on what it could do for his recovery.

The point is Andys insane climbing is achieved most probably by already using similar methods to the brunyeel ones.

So I don't see what the hog can do for his tt, besides for real simply helping him with his position.

Thanks for taking your time writing all this out. You got a valid point here. Maybe people are just thinking that Contador seemed to do much better in TT's under the hog, and once he left that ability of his sort of diminished.

 

[The Hitch]

Maybe people are just thinking that Contador seemed to do much better in TT's under the hog, and once he left that ability of his sort of diminished.

Did it?

He sucked in the TDF tt in 2010 and the Dauphine one but thats about it.

 

[Fetisoff]

Did it?

He sucked in the TDF tt in 2010 and the Dauphine one but thats about it.

It seems like everyone expects a repeat of the Annecy time trial every time he rides one though

 

[Publicus]

Surprised that Andy finishing 10:58 down today didn't warrant a post or two in this thread.

 

[Angliru]

Surprised that Andy finishing 10:58 down today didn't warrant a post or two in this thread.

Raggin' on Andy can get exhausting. I can only maintain that level of focus for so long. I have to pick my spots.

 

[The Hitch]

Surprised that Andy finishing 10:58 down today didn't warrant a post or two in this thread.

How is Andy supposed to deal with wind without Cancellara pacing him?

 

[hughmoore]

Surprised that Andy finishing 10:58 down today didn't warrant a post or two in this thread.

I think most people have not posted, as we havent had confirmation he has actually finished. I thought he might still be riding.


Hugh

 

[thehog]

Surprised that Andy finishing 10:58 down today didn't warrant a post or two in this thread.

One has ask..... what would Lance do?

 

[AussieGoddess]

I think most people have not posted, as we havent had confirmation he has actually finished. I thought he might still be riding.


Hugh

too funny.

he just makes it too easy.

 

[Maxiton]

Wrote this in the other thread where we were debating whether Schlecks tt will improve dramatically under the Hog, but since it was off topic and removed, I figured I don't want the 20 minutes I spent writing it to go awaste, so here goes.

Regarding Andys improvements and the d word, how does that work?

Im guessing it comes from the fact that Brunyeel "improved" Lances tt but we should remember that he also "improved" Lances climbing.

The other thing people look at is this slightly parochial view imo spouted by some that Brunyeel made all those guys last year who swept up the tts into good tters.

But they were always good tters, Brunyeel didnt make them that. Levi was always one of the best tters in the world, Kloeden was always great, Horner was always great, and then guys like Roessler and young ones like Sergeant and Kwiatkowski, I don't see them flying up mountains.

They are tt specialists, and though some of you kept spamming every thread these guys performed in a tt in with - oh noes, evil hog is working his tt magic again [], the continued improvement demonstrated by St Michael of Działyń after leaving for Lotto, suggests Brunyeel isnt all there is to it.

Which brings us on to Andy. Unlike Lance Andy is already a world class climber, 2nd best probably, and meanwhile his tt is even worse than Lances was.

So what do people expect Andy to improve his tt to world beater form and for his climbing to remain static?

If there is a way to improve Andy's tt to world beater form, then that same improvement in climbing would see him go sub 35 on Alpe. And don't even get me started on what it could do for his recovery.

The point is Andys insane climbing is achieved most probably by already using similar methods to the brunyeel ones.

So I don't see what the hog can do for his tt, besides for real simply helping him with his position.

Really strong and perceptive point, especially that last bit. On the whole this world class competitor that is A. Schleck is as you say already preparing in whatever ways one needs to prepare to be world class. The only thing left then is actual improvement. He's definitely not going to win any Tours with the TT position he has now. And if he did it would look really ridiculous.

(Also, I think previously it was pretty obvious that UCI and the rest of the cycling establishment had Andy in mind as Armstrong's heir apparent. Now, I think they've given that up like a bad habit, and are happy to have Cadel as the face of cycling, so they're not going to be doing A. Schleck any extraordinary favors. Of any kind.)

 

[CasperVg]

And now Andy pulls out of Paris-Nice.. does that mean he is finally ashamed of his own malperformances?

 

[Kwibus]

And now Andy pulls out of Paris-Nice.. does that mean he is finally ashamed of his own malperformances?

I bet this excuse will end up in our new Andy's excuses thread.

 

[Maxiton]

And now Andy pulls out of Paris-Nice.. does that mean he is finally ashamed of his own malperformances?

He pulled out?

 

[TourOfSardinia]

He pulled out?

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/schleck-out-of-paris-nice-with-stomach-problems

part of the JB program?

 

[movingtarget]

They're still base training. What no one knows is that they were only riding at 80% the power they could have

By base training you mean do their worst and hold it at that level ? The extra 20% they gain will be lost on cornering and gentle descents where smoke will be coming off the brakes and torrential sweating through fear and paralysis will cause temporary blindness...........not to mention worrying about the whereabouts of Contador who Andy thought he spotted in the crowd on the side of the road thereby stopping during the TT and looking over his shoulder one more time.

 

[Angliru]

One has ask..... what would Lance do?

Bail.
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[Angliru]

Good post, but if you dig a wee bit deeper he has placed pretty well in most of the Ardennes that he has competed in.

I don't think there is any dispute about his performances in the Ardennes. As is often mentioned, it's his performances outside of the end of April and the month of July. I've asked this question before and I'll ask it again, if Frank can compete from March till July and sometimes after July, and I mean competing by making his presence known in stage races and other one day events, why can't Andy?

 

[Ripper]

By base training you mean do their worst and hold it at that level ? The extra 20% they gain will be lost on cornering and gentle descents where smoke will be coming off the brakes and torrential sweating through fear and paralysis will cause temporary blindness...........not to mention worrying about the whereabouts of Contador who Andy thought he spotted in the crowd on the side of the road thereby stopping during the TT and looking over his shoulder one more time.

Exactly! But then he'll gain another 35% power by making is angry face and using the fire in his belly