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Sentjens positive for EPO

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craig1985 said:
Or he will say that he did it all himself with no help whatsoever, ala Thomas Frei. Who is our resident bookie hereso they can lay some odds down in what Sentjens excuse will be, and I'll put ten euro on it.

I'll see what odds, I can make :p But do you mean before the testing of the b-sample, or after that?

(really some bookmakers should make seperate doping bets, next to regular cycling betting)
 
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Night Rider said:
Probably not worth a thread of it's own but also an EPO charge against a NZ track cyclist ...

http://www.roadcycling.co.nz/TeamTalk/what-a-dope-kiwi-cyclist-adam-stewart.html

And actually an encouraging development IMO:

Stewart was caught after a package containing prohibited substances was intercepted by the New Zealand Customs Service and he was identified as the recipient despite attempts to use a false name and address.

"It is more and more common internationally for doping to be revealed by gathering this kind of evidence rather than testing and it is very pleasing to be able to show that we have the same capacity here in New Zealand."

"Gone are the days when the only method of catching athletes who are doping is through testing, we now have other powerful tools and this case provides a very good example of how they can be used."

Given the apparent ease with which the dirtiest riders continually beat the testing, it's great to see some good old law enforcement techniques working.
 
issoisso said:
"This year"?

You wouldn't be saying that if Evans wasn't there last year.
Remember what Kohl said last year. They signed him specifically because they liked the way he managed to dope yet keep his blood passport values unsuspicious.

Not to mention they haven't had a single positive this year....yet they had plenty in previous years.
Did Kohl actually said that? Wow. It's amazing how a busted rider can spill the beans and yet nobody will do anything about it.

Anyway, do you or anyone else have a link where I can read what Kohl has been saying since he was caught? I know he's said lots of eye-opening stuff but I've never got a chance to read any of it.
 
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powerste said:
And actually an encouraging development IMO:



Given the apparent ease with which the dirtiest riders continually beat the testing, it's great to see some good old law enforcement techniques working.

Popping a guy on a national team who's daft enough to try to order his own EPO doesn't really show much in terms of stopping doping.

The big guns we all (speaking hopefully, now) want to nail to help end doping are not ordering dope from 'makemefastnow.com'. They have DSs and doctors that are finely tuning their programs.

Not only the riders, but the other key components of any team structure, need to be held accountable for what's been done to the sport. I realize we can't start testing staff, but there has to be some understanding of complicity in the doping that has been an institutional plague on the sport.

Track the DSs, doctors, prepatores, etc. If it gets too sketchy, which it is right now, then take action to run them out. Unfortunately the only body we have for anything like that is the UCI, and it's pretty clear that they really don't care about stopping the problem.

How about an independent body?
 
Another big fish..

issoisso said:
"This year"?

You wouldn't be saying that if Evans wasn't there last year.
Remember what Kohl said last year. They signed him specifically because they liked the way he managed to dope yet keep his blood passport values unsuspicious.

Took me a sec to realise he said that about himself, not Evans :p
 
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hrotha said:
Well, a minute ago he was saying he was innocent, but I guess he realized he didn't have the energy to keep up the lie.

For once, it would be nice to hear the truth straight away, but we can at least appreciate that the gaps between denial and admission are getting shorter. That's some progress.
 
It would be interesting to make a list of athletes (not just cyclists) who've moved to train in Austria, Croatia, Spain. You know, for the weather, facilities, trainers. That's pretty much the same as pre-admitting blood doping, isn't it?

If his story is true, it's truely the most amateuristic thing on earth. There are people to talk to, which have the knowledge to let you try things that are legal, but support your mental game tremendously. EPO, the dope from the newspaper headlines...

Edit : makes me think of the Marc Lotz story. Did it all himself, pharmacy, accepted guilt, quit cycling, went teaching school. But, came back racing for a while after his suspension I believe.
 
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Sad story of Guillain-Barre syndrom and EPO use on http://www.feltet.dk.

However, I would think Guillian-Barre syndrome only lasts for som months....?

But it seems that seeking EPO is a sign of desparation over life circumstances (racing, results, family, economy) in quite a few cyclists.

And seemingly, EPO is sold over the counter in Barcelona. NOT NICE!:mad:
 
Kwibus said:
I'm willing to believe his story. Allthough you never know for sure it seems like a legit story to me. In a way that it makes sense.
I want to believe it too, because if it's true it's good news that someone at the Pro Tour level had to do it in such an amateurish way.

But let's not get too carried away here. Even if that's the case, it's still Milram, a German team.
 
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ulrikmm said:
And seemingly, EPO is sold over the counter in Barcelona. NOT NICE!:mad:

What are the Medical Regulatory Boards thinking...allowing EPO to be sold over the counter? Talk about unethical and dangerous. What other European countries allow that? Switzerland?

NW
 
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hrotha said:
I want to believe it too, because if it's true it's good news that someone at the Pro Tour level had to do it in such an amateurish way.

But let's not get too carried away here. Even if that's the case, it's still Milram, a German team.

If it is true then Sentjens will be only to willing to help the federations with this. It must mean that others are going to Barcelona and a particular pharmacy to buy their EPO. Again i think there is a big reason for so many cyclists to be living in Girona. Why not Perpignan on the French side of the border?

I wonder if that area has big sales of EPO compared to other areas of Spain?
 
Neworld said:
What are the Medical Regulatory Boards thinking...allowing EPO to be sold over the counter? Talk about unethical and dangerous. What other European countries allow that? Switzerland?

NW

Mexico, among other places, non euro. it is not the drugs fault. it is the person
using said drug for other than ethical reasons. but the history of humanity says
that will never change.
rules are made by men, because men break the rules.
 
usedtobefast said:
Mexico, among other places, non euro. it is not the drugs fault. it is the person
using said drug for other than ethical reasons. but the history of humanity says
that will never change.
rules are made by men, because men break the rules.

Ah, Mexico, the wonderful country were pro-riders go when they're definitely not training in Italy... Or was it Spain? I forget now - see this is how confusing these whereabouts are...
 
Roy Sentjens will be on Holland Sport (TV) tonight.

I wonder why. I'd have dug a hole and jumped into it. The website posts said all he needed to say.

Perhaps (likely) he'll do some damage control for his team (employer). It was all him working on his own, figuring this doping thing out to make the line, etc.
 

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