Teams & Riders Sepp Kuss is the next Sepp Kuss thread

[Koronin]

Apparently he may be going to la Vuelta: https://www.velonews.com/2018/08/news/kuss-set-to-make-grand-tour-debut-at-2018-vuelta-says-lotto-ds_474545

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Why is he called Sepp, by the way? Is he of recent Dutch or Flemish extraction?

 

[Lequack]

There is a great article about him from 2016, when he was just beginning his ascent.

Meet Sepp Kuss, revelation of the 2016 Redlands Classic
https://cyclingtips.com/2016/04/meet-sepp-kuss-revelation-of-the-2016-redlands-classic/

"One look at Strava leaderboards on some of the toughest climbs in the U.S. cycling hub of Boulder, Colorado, reveals a relatively unknown name.
On several significant climbs, the first name to follow Tom Danielson’s is that of Sepp Kuss, a 22-year-old from Durango."

"And if Kuss never makes it as a pro cyclist, he says that’ll be okay. It’’s all about striking the right balance."

I suggest you read it, it's really informative.

 

[Der Effe]

Amazingly talented rider, LottoNL last year were blown away by his test results and internally likened him to Primoz Roglic. But let’s hope they give him the gradual opportunity to show results in Europe as well. He was 34th in the Dauphiné as a domestique and showed he was amongst the last standing non-leaders. It’s good for him he is behind a couple of guys for now, which takes away the pressure.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Thanks for that link, Lequack

 

[Koronin]

Thanks for the link. Sounds like as long as he's enjoying riding/racing he's going to continue. That's as it should be.

 

[Martin]

btw., I expected more from Powless and McNulty on this Tour.
Go on Sepp, this was just so much fun to watch!

It's quite hard for McNulty to show himself in a race he is not actually participating in . Although, watch out for him in roughly 10 days or so at l'Avenir.

Technicalities!

Aww... Correct... I thougt I saw his name on the startlist
Anyway, back to Sepp, he was so dominant this week that I think US team should be build around him on this year's WC in Austria.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

It'll be interesting to see how he compares to a somewhat more elite field. Taking 2 minutes over 3 stages on Hermans isn't really what i would call an amazing achievement.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

You're underrating Hermans here. He purposedly let's go of GC in most races he does to go for stage wins (like in GT), but then showed his climbing level, certainly when 100%, is actually quite high.

 

[IndianCyclist]

The American races tend not to show the true potential of a rider. Will wait for the Vuelta to see if he delivers

 

[Lequack]

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The American races tend not to show the true potential of a rider. Will wait for the Vuelta to see if he delivers

But if he's used as a dom it won't really show anything, unless he'll be as dominant as Bernal in the Tour.

 

[RedheadDane]

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Why is he called Sepp, by the way? Is he of recent Dutch or Flemish extraction?

Or more distantly (time-wise).
Or his parents just liked the name.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

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You're underrating Hermans here. He purposedly let's go of GC in most races he does to go for stage wins (like in GT), but then showed his climbing level, certainly when 100%, is actually quite high.

Hermans could go for a top 20 in the TDF, top 15 in Giro or Vuelta. If everthing goes well. That's about his level. Doing a few minutes better would gain you two or three spots. Personally i think Benoot was climbing at roughly the same level last year as Kuss, at the same age, without prep and without hype. But against elite riders.

 

[tobydawq]

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You're underrating Hermans here. He purposedly let's go of GC in most races he does to go for stage wins (like in GT), but then showed his climbing level, certainly when 100%, is actually quite high.

Hermans could go for a top 20 in the TDF, top 15 in Giro or Vuelta. If everthing goes well. That's about his level. Doing a few minutes better would gain you two or three spots. Personally i think Benoot was climbing at roughly the same level last year as Kuss, at the same age, without prep and without hype. But against elite riders.

Lol.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Great argument.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

You're vastly overrating Benoot. Would never be able to do anything like this

 

[proffate]

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The American races tend not to show the true potential of a rider. Will wait for the Vuelta to see if he delivers

What are some examples of truly dominant performances in American climbing races (not just winning, but creaming the field) that did NOT translate into European success?

 

[tobydawq]

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Great argument.

Sorry but the guy has been crushing a mountainous race, putting on one of the shows of the season (not once, but three times) in an era where making differences in the mountains is becoming increasingly difficult, and you're saying he's on the level of Benoot... Not much argument is needed.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

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You're vastly overrating Benoot. Would never be able to do anything like this

He would indeed never ride a race like this.

Great argument.

Sorry but the guy has been crushing a mountainous race, putting on one of the shows of the season (not once, but three times) in an era where making differences in the mountains is becoming increasingly difficult, and you're saying he's on the level of Benoot... Not much argument is needed.

Ok, so the opposotion doesn't matter. Got it.

I'll be pleasently surprised when he crushes the Vuelta on his current form. What are you expecting for him there? Top 5?

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Yeah i don't believe for a second Benoot can drop Haig and Woods like that.

 

[tobydawq]

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You're vastly overrating Benoot. Would never be able to do anything like this

He would indeed never ride a race like this.

Great argument.

Sorry but the guy has been crushing a mountainous race, putting on one of the shows of the season (not once, but three times) in an era where making differences in the mountains is becoming increasingly difficult, and you're saying he's on the level of Benoot... Not much argument is needed.

Ok, so the opposotion doesn't matter. Got it.

I'll be pleasently surprised when he crushes the Vuelta on his current form. What are you expecting for him there? Top 5?

Jack Haig. Michael Woods. Ben Hermans. Tejay Van Garderen.

Vuelta stage win. Vuelta top 10. Tourz of Oman and Austria GC win. Giro stage win.

In mountains. In the last two years.

All much better climbers than Benoot.

And no, I'm not expecting him to be top 5 in the Vuelta, but I can assure that IF he can ride at this level for three weeks, he won't be at the fringes of the top 20.

And what do you want, should he have won the race by five minutes to make you impressed?

 

[roundabout]

Dombrowski got a single top-15 stage result in the Vuelta 3 years ago after winning Utah.

Kuss was more impressive, but for me it is still very uncertain how he will do.

 

[yaco]

Kuss will be a helper at the Vuelta - His role is to support Bennett and Kruisjwilk.

 

[Scarponi]

I think Herman’s is a decent indicator for a 20 year old kid to beat him.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

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And what do you want, should he have won the race by five minutes to make you impressed?

Nope, just that this is no point of reference.

I think Herman’s is a decent indicator for a 20 year old kid to beat him.

Sure, i can agree with that. Don't see the relevance here though, since Kuss turns 24 next month.