But either fortunately or unfortunately not in the record books. It will be seen as the crowning moment of Kuss’s career to this point and of Jumbo as a team dominating the GTs this year.
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If you subtract the breakaway he is about 1:10 up on Ayuso and he didn't have to do all that riding that day. He was (is) the third best climber in the Vuelta. Replace Roglic and Vingegaard with two more strong climbing doms. and he definitely has a good chance. The question I guess is would Mas and Ayuso be stronger if it wasn't for the pummeling that Roglic and Vingo gave them?
OBJECTION!!!!! Relevance?
The Cycling Podcast played a Kuss interview before the stage 18 where Kuss basically said that it was time that he "stuck up for himself." The podcasters both believed that someone had spoken to Kuss to get him to be more assertive. I tend to agree, and (if I had any) I would bet money that person was one Bob "Bobke" Roll.
They also played a short interview with Rog, who clearly was not happy with the arrangement.
They also played a short interview with Rog, who clearly was not happy with the arrangement.
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I'd say business/marketing and public opinion go hand in hand.
It was meant to be "bragging" I think. In any case, a GT has been decided at the table, which is their right I suppose, but it doesn't make it any less scandalous. It would have been one thing had Kuss thundered into the lead on his own merit, by attacking from the leaders' group and dropping them all, but he's not capable of that. It's thus entirely another to have gotten the red jersey because you were sent up the rode in a strategic bid to unsettle Evenepoel, which worked, an impact on the race that was magnified by the ineptitude of Soudal, who never, ever should have allowed him in a break of 40 strong. The guy was given a free ride into the lead and consequently anybody that thinks Kuss will have won this with his own legs is delusional. Just ask Roglic. Chapeau, but the American is lucky he's not racing with Hinault in the team, who would have attacked him ruthlessly until reclaiming the leadership. By contrast, such "fair play" is merely a euphemism for the perverse parody of sport we have witnessed, a falsification of competition and ultimately this Vuelta. Congrats Jumbo-Visma.
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I did not follow the racing that closely in last few days or so, but Kuss probably played his cards perfectly as he is dealing with two stronger riders that could have won the at point. I think Vingegaard could have dropped him much earlier if he did try to be more assertive instead of playing the nice guy that happened to he a GC leader role.
Jumbo probably gave under-the-table deals to Roglic and Vingegaard for letting him win for obvious Murican financial reasons, and what they have done this year is a great story for marketing purposes. I would blame other teams for riding the most negative race ever and folding to Jumbo and Remco for GC and stages without even trying.
I also throughly enjoy LS' rants about Kuss and obligatory mentions to Portugese scene, we just happened to have a W52 or LA-MSS festival in an actual GT.
Jumbo probably gave under-the-table deals to Roglic and Vingegaard for letting him win for obvious Murican financial reasons, and what they have done this year is a great story for marketing purposes. I would blame other teams for riding the most negative race ever and folding to Jumbo and Remco for GC and stages without even trying.
I also throughly enjoy LS' rants about Kuss and obligatory mentions to Portugese scene, we just happened to have a W52 or LA-MSS festival in an actual GT.
Hmm, maybe. He took a fair chunk of time on Angliru by simply being strong af. So I'd say yes.
Without the breakaway he would have come from behind. He only lost 18" to Ayuso in the ITT, and he gained 17" on Mas. When and how would those two do to Kuss what he did to them on Angliru?
Discount the breakaway gains he still leads the GC. Add in he is allowed to attack earlier on the Tourmalet as well
Agreed. Kuss is the 3rd strongest guy in the race and since his breakaway his advantage over non-JV guys only grew.
Surely there is somewhere I'll have a look, Valverde not following trade teammate Costa's attack at the 2013 WCRR was also a classic, went down particularly poorly in some quarters.
I've commented before that this is pretty impressive on its own. Sure, he's benefiting from having the 2 strongest GC riders on his team, but are Ayuso, Mas, Almeida, Remco really that weak that they can't keep up with a forum meme rider like Kuss?
We've known for years that he's among the best pure climbers and we've caught glimpses of what an unchained Kuss can do on a mountain stage. What's always been missing is the start-to-finish consistency, but then again he's rarely been asked to actually race for his own positions. After this Vuelta, will he be given that responsibility for an entire GT? What would happen? He hasn't had to attack other teams' riders on his own to save his position or gain places, nor has he had to call on helpers to save his bacon. Those are the hard parts of being a protected GC rider with the teams' (and sponsors) hopes and dreams on your shoulders....
Without team mates, with out a breakaway, without a bike, without...
Don't blame the winning team, blame the other teams who didn't get their sht together in the GT this year.
Without team mates, with out a breakaway, without a bike, without...
I'm not sure he would/could have won without Vingegaard, cause had it not been for the mechanical in the ITT, he might not have been allowed to join the break on the Javalambre stage
I hope it was a certain Texan and Kuss goes full on blank-hole! No more Mr Nice Guy!
Don‘t know why I should like a guy who can ride like this in his 3rd GT. Seriously, what has he done, shown that he can win races? What‘s that got to do with liking someone?
Sepp Kuss: I completely deserved to be in this jersey
Vingegaard and Roglic work for American as Jumbo-Visma end internal Vuelta a España rivalry
www.cyclingnews.com
That's right!
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