Teams & Riders Sepp Kuss is the next Sepp Kuss thread

[Lequack]

man, Americans love making cringe t-shirts

 

[RedheadDane]

Ironically Sepp wins by the same margin Lemond did over Fignon at the 89 Tour, but the circumstances could not be more different.

Huh, I thought you prided yourself on the knowledge of history, and even I know about those famous 8 seconds from the 1989 Tour, though I don't actually remember it.
I do find it rather unlikely that Vingegaard will gain 9 seconds on Kuss over the course of today's stage.

 

[Extinction]

Huh, I thought you prided yourself on the knowledge of history, and even I know about those famous 8 seconds from the 1989 Tour, though I don't actually remember it.
I do find it rather unlikely that Vingegaard will gain 9 seconds on Kuss over the course of today's stage.

My knowledge of history is fine, but evidently not so good on current events. I simply forgot Vingegaard shipped those extra 9 secs after the Angrilu stage.

 

[RedheadDane]

My knowledge of history is fine, but evidently not so good on current events. I simply forgot Vingegaard shipped those extra 9 secs after the Angrilu stage.

Some people would say that's a sign of old age; remembering things from years ago, but not what happened recently.

 

[Extinction]

Some people would say that's a sign of old age; remembering things from years ago, but not what happened recently.

Wait a minute now, I said you made me realize how old I am, not that I'm old!

 

[HelloDolly]

Hadn't Remco cracked, Kuss wouldn't have won the Vuelta.

Yeah and if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle

What ifs are a dime a dozen

Congratulations Sepp Kuss ...derserved winner

 

[SHAD0W93]

Yeah and if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle

I guess that’s the good thing about this day and age, your aunt doesn’t need balls to be considered your uncle anymore. Or so they say.

 

[Extinction]

Yeah and if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle

What ifs are a dime a dozen

Congratulations Sepp Kuss ...derserved winner

Just because you say he's a deserved winner doesn't negate the uncomfortable truth that this race was decided at the table in favor of the weakest. So either your aunt has balls or you are full of sh-it.

 

[Lequack]

Sepp in Spanish

https://twitter.com/x/status/1703374937866555670

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[RedheadDane]

Just because you say he's a deserved winner doesn't negate the uncomfortable truth that this race was decided at the table in favor of the weakest. So either your aunt has balls or you are full of sh-it.

At least it was decided during the race, and not before the race, like in TdF 2012.

 

[Extinction]

I realize that, but the team is too strong for it's own good and that of cycling. Making a charade of a GT is not what makes you popular in the world of cycling. They certainly would not have extinguished the fireworks had it been the Tour. The funny thing is the very reason Kuss was sent into the break was to upset Evenepoel, who, in reality, was never a threat. Hence Roglic and Vingegaard gave away a Vuelta, because they were shooting at the wrong target. Oh the irony of it!

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Making a charade of a GT is not what makes you popular in the world of cycling.

No, but letting somebody else ride in the front seat is, so that balances out.

 

[RedheadDane]

I suppose it's a shame the race isn't ending with an ITT.
Would have been a mathematical nightmare to calculate how fast Roglic and Vingegaard would be "allowed" to go, to not risking overtaking Kuss, so they'd probably just all have gone full.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

The whining about a team choosing to comfortably sweep a GT podium rather than have three of their four most important riders wage war against each other for a week is, and I mean this kindly, completely insane. No team in the peloton would make the “fun” choice in this situation.

Kuss was better than anyone not on his team. Bike riders quite frequently win races when they have teammates who are probably stronger than they are.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

I suppose it's a shame the race isn't ending with an ITT.
Would have been a mathematical nightmare to calculate how fast Roglic and Vingegaard would be "allowed" to go, to not risking overtaking Kuss, so they'd probably just all have gone full.

Had there been a time trial on the final day, then I'm not sure they would have neutralised the racing.

 

[RedheadDane]

Had there been a time trial on the final day, then I'm not sure they would have neutralised the racing.

Of course not. Hence why you could argue it was a shame there isn't one.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

The whining about a team choosing to comfortably sweep a GT podium rather than have three of their four most important riders wage war against each other for a week is, and I mean this kindly, completely insane. No team in the peloton would make the “fun” choice in this situation.

Kuss was better than anyone not on his team. Bike riders quite frequently win races when they have teammates who are probably stronger than they are.

Again though, it's more that they did neither, and flip-flopped that causes the problem.

Had they simply gone "Sepp's ahead on the road, so we ride for him until he's dropped - if he's dropped" then yes the last week would have been tame, but it would have been understood.

Had they said "since we've got the podium locked down, the team are free to race" then it might have ruffled some feathers, but the winner would have been the best rider in the race.

Instead, they let them race just long enough to showcase that Kuss was the weakest rider of the three, then reined it all in in the face of online criticism, leaving a wholly unsatisfactory outcome from a racing point of view, leaving only those who wanted Kuss to win for sentimentality reasons satisfied; we know Roglič and Vingegaard could have gone faster but weren't allowed, we know Kuss got the win as a charity case as he was the weakest of the three, and we know the team either weren't able to control their leaders if they did intend to support Kuss, or they allowed social media to dictate their team policy.

That's why we're seeing the reactions.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Of course not. Hence why you could argue it was a shame there isn't one.

It could have been a shame for Kuss, cause then he would not necessarily have been in red at this point.

 

[RedheadDane]

It could have been a shame for Kuss, cause then he would not necessarily have been in red at this point.

Or he would have tried to attack at some point.
Basically, everything would have been different.

 

[HelloDolly]

Just because you say he's a deserved winner doesn't negate the uncomfortable truth that this race was decided at the table in favor of the weakest. So either your aunt has balls or you are full of sh-it.

we hear you load and clear ..you are not happy with the result ....maybe give it a rest now

and one bad day does not make anyone 'the weakest' ..we dont know who the weakest was in this Vuelta

Also dont bother to reply to my message as I am all done having to reply to unnecessary rude obsessive replies. Maybe go out and get some air.

 

[topcat]

The whining about a team choosing to comfortably sweep a GT podium rather than have three of their four most important riders wage war against each other for a week is, and I mean this kindly, completely insane. No team in the peloton would make the “fun” choice in this situation.

Kuss was better than anyone not on his team. Bike riders quite frequently win races when they have teammates who are probably stronger than they are.

I don’t care that Kuss won ahead of Vingo and Rog. Any one of them would have been bad. I do care that Jumbo swept the podium and won with their 3rd best rider. This level of dominance is not good for cycling.
The story is amusing though: Vingo attacks and takes time on the other 2, Roglic gets angry on the angry loo, then they shepherd Kuss to the win, all hugs and love.

 

[Red Rick]

The whining about a team choosing to comfortably sweep a GT podium rather than have three of their four most important riders wage war against each other for a week is, and I mean this kindly, completely insane. No team in the peloton would make the “fun” choice in this situation.

Kuss was better than anyone not on his team. Bike riders quite frequently win races when they have teammates who are probably stronger than they are.

Yeah it's not like he got 15 minutes in a breakaway nobody chased before Roglic and Vingegaard started clubbing everyone down who dared attack Seppy.

Also, while one might cringe at the praise for Sepp Kuss' character, I still find it more tolerable than *** behavior being celebrated as "at least he's entertaining/he just speaks his mind"

 

[topcat]

Yeah it's not like he got 15 minutes in a breakaway nobody chased before Roglic and Vingegaard started clubbing everyone down who dared attack Seppy.

Also, while one might cringe at the praise for Sepp Kuss' character, I still find it more tolerable than *** behavior being celebrated as "at least he's entertaining/he just speaks his mind"

I can see where this is going: Roglic ages gracefully and retires, the love of his family pulls Vingo away from cycling and we’re left with Remco versus Kuss.

 

[Red Rick]

I can see where this is going: Roglic ages gracefully and retires, the love of his family pulls Vingo away from cycling and we’re left with Remco versus Kuss.

Roglic won't retire before hugging it out with Fred Wright, dislocating his shoulder in the process

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Also, while one might cringe at the praise for Sepp Kuss' character, I still find it more tolerable than *** behavior being celebrated as "at least he's entertaining/he just speaks his mind"

This is a fair point. I've always said my problem with Kuss was entirely rooted in him in races and not a reflection on him as a person, whereas my problem with Sagan was entirely rooted in him as a person and nothing to do with him as a racer.

Sepp can't help the way the media is currently presenting him as Mary-Sue Kuss, but it is cringe as all hell.