Sergio Henao

[MatParker117]

Yep, no further action.

 

[thehog]

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https://twitter.com/SkyOrla/status/737617441837043713

UCI say 'no basis to proceed further' with investigations into Sergio Henao

Thank-God for the altitude natives study..... oh wait?!

Good work by the UCI getting to the bottom of this one. Henao and Yates back to racing, never tested positive.

 

[Irondan]

Re: Re:

https://twitter.com/SkyOrla/status/737617441837043713

UCI say 'no basis to proceed further' with investigations into Sergio Henao

Thank-God for the altitude natives study..... oh wait?!

Good work by the UCI getting to the bottom of this one. Henao and Yates back to racing, never tested positive.

It was all a big mistake, please focus on Lance Armstrong, he's the big bad doper. These other guys are part of the new 'clean generation', obviously they can't be dirty...

 

[carolina]

this reminds me o kreuziger's case. they just gave up.

it's really strange. why do they even bother with suspensions if they're not fully sure?!

 

[Catwhoorg]

Henao was never suspended.

He was sidelined by the team, not the UCI

 

[MatParker117]

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this reminds me o kreuziger's case. they just gave up.

it's really strange. why do they even bother with suspensions if they're not fully sure?!

Sky sidelined him not the UCI.

 

[thehog]

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Henao was never suspended.

He was sidelined by the team, not the UCI

True but had a passport case opened against him. The natives study never materialised so it would be interesting to know what explanation was used to have him cleared and the case dropped by the CADF.

 

[carolina]

if I remember correctly, kreuziger was also not suspended by the UCI, but when tinkoff wanted to send him to the tour, the UCI suspended him.

 

[sniper]

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Henao was never suspended.

He was sidelined by the team, not the UCI

True but had a passport case opened against him. The natives study never materialised so it would be interesting to know what explanation was used to have him cleared and the case dropped by the CADF.

colombian pesos, british pounds, swiss francs.
conversion could get messy.
if there was a currency issue, seems it just got solved.

 

[gospina]

My thoughts on conspiracy theories:
1) If Sky was "paying off" people or organizations, it will make more sense to pay them off BEFORE they make an announcement, i.e. keep it under wraps.
2) If they are conspiring together from the beginning and purposely showing some "positives", they will go all the way through it, not flag someone and then let them off.

 

[thehog]

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Henao was never suspended.

He was sidelined by the team, not the UCI

True but had a passport case opened against him. The natives study never materialised so it would be interesting to know what explanation was used to have him cleared and the case dropped by the CADF.

colombian pesos, british pounds, swiss francs.
conversion could get messy.
if there was a currency issue, seems it just got solved.

A few pages back, someone printed a letter from te Columbian Cycling Federation which said it had been testing Heano and confirmed the altitude native hypothesis.

Which was strikingly convenient considering Sheffield University denied it ever undertook the study.

 

[sniper]

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A few pages back, someone printed a letter from te Columbian Cycling Federation which said it had been testing Heano and confirmed the altitude native hypothesis.

Which was strikingly convenient considering Sheffield University denied it ever undertook the study.

It's a good thing they left "anti-doping expert" untranslated. Makes for easy reading.

 

[thehog]

They did too! Lol! The guy read that and said "clean"! Can't read Spanish but they think I'm an expert. Lol!

 

[fatandfast]

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this reminds me o kreuziger's case. they just gave up.

it's really strange. why do they even bother with suspensions if they're not fully sure?!

Sky sidelined him not the UCI.

You should also note carolina's post. The UCI is floundering in every aspect of the sport, A cyclists career trashed by a misplaced smear. People run over by motorcycles and cars routinely. Can't find motors in bicycles even at championship events? These guys a chitheads of the highest caliber. The warm up bike path in Rio already claimed lives,the venues not ready to ride even a test lap in cycling events. The UCI is out of date to say the very very least. How are the protecting? The riders?teams? the fans? the reputation of the sport and past champions? Nobody

 

[sniper]

They did too! Lol! The guy read that and said "clean"! Can't read Spanish but they think I'm an expert. Lol!

 

[Catwhoorg]

Re: Re:

Henao was never suspended.

He was sidelined by the team, not the UCI

True but had a passport case opened against him. The natives study never materialised so it would be interesting to know what explanation was used to have him cleared and the case dropped by the CADF.

Not a case, but a request to explain anomalous results, which is the step before the case being opened.

The same three experts then consider that information against the passport information. Interestingly it is also the first time they will know the name of the individual.

 

[sniper]

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... Interestingly it is also the first time they will know the name of the individual.

briefly going off topic:
Evidence from the USADA file wrt Armstrong 2009 suggests the system is rigged, or at least rig-able.
It's unlikely that it's the first time.

 

[Catwhoorg]

The three person panel when they discuss if there is a case before any explanations, is not supposed to know the identity of the rider (or other athlete in a broader context).

But yes, the system can be rigged, no doubt about that.

 

[samhocking]

I wonder if Prince Nassar is aware just how complicated covering up doping has become in a cycling team these days? You need to announce a rider is suspended internally to his agent, then the agent needs to accidentally announce he is suspended to a small newspaper the day before a big race then announce to the world the rider is suspended even though the UCI says there's not a problem. Then you need to invent a story and a report from a redbrick uni to tell you, you can return said rider back to compeition, only for the whole scenario to happen again 12 months directly from WADA, who tell the UCI, who tell the World, then the UCI leave it a few months to sound like they're thinking about it deeply and then announce to the World the rider is free to race.
UCI & Sky have a great team of script-writers. The story just flows really nicely, little sub-plots here and there and then it reached this climax of everythings the same as when the story started over 2 years ago. Brilliant!

 

[thehog]

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Henao was never suspended.

He was sidelined by the team, not the UCI

True but had a passport case opened against him. The natives study never materialised so it would be interesting to know what explanation was used to have him cleared and the case dropped by the CADF.

Not a case, but a request to explain anomalous results, which is the step before the case being opened.

The same three experts then consider that information against the passport information. Interestingly it is also the first time they will know the name of the individual.

Good point; by sidelining Henao the panel would have known who he was. I assume the letter from the federation was used so it's a no brainier they knew who the athlete was.

 

[carolina]

like I though, kreuziger was not suspended when the process began:

He was due to start this year's Tour de France but with the Cycling Anti-Doping Foundation (CAFD) opening a formal case against him, the team were obliged to pull the rider; however they have not formally suspended him.

However, Kreuziger has not received any new information from the CAFD or the UCI and Feltrin believes that the rider is therefore eligible to race.

"It's true that Roman is on the roster. He was on it before, and we spoke to him and he said that he’s not had any new information from the UCI in terms of the sanctions so we feel, like we said before, that it’s not up to us to stop him from racing without there being solid concrete evidence," Feltrin told Cyclingnews.

There's going to be a trial I suppose, or may be not, but as a team we have to apply the contract and that's based on the model created by the UCI and I couldn't see a clause in there that says that we have to suspend him. We have to allow him to race as long as the UCI don’t suspend him.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/kreuziger-to-ride-tour-of-poland-despite-passport-case/

and then we have this a few days later:

Kreuziger was suspended by the UCI on Saturday after Cyclingnews revealed that he was about to return to racing in the Tour de Pologne

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/tinkoff-saxo-hits-back-at-the-uci-regarding-kreuzigers-biological-passport-suspension/

so, it seems that the UCI expects the teams to suspend their own riders, which is kind of stupid.

 

[Avoriaz]

Anyone know why Sergio Henao trips the wire but not his cousin, Sebastian? They are both from Rionegro, and both, therefore, altitude native, and blood relatives

 

[carton]

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Anyone know why Sergio Henao trips the wire but not his cousin, Sebastian? They are both from Rionegro, and both, therefore, altitude native, and blood relatives

Nope. Either, a) he's juicing, in which case anyone in the know wouldn't be posting about it here. Or b) there's something to the altitude native thing, but literally no one in the world seems to have a proper grasp on it yet. If the paper comes out, we would have some insight into what may be happening in that second case. Which we may be able to extrapolate out to give you some kind of an answer to no degree of certainty whatsoever, since it would be based on just one poorly researched theory. Which, again, may just be a rationalization for (a). So, no. But, you know, sometimes cousins are physiologically different. Hope you find that to be a satisfying answer.

 

[Catwhoorg]

Sebastian Signed with Sky in 2014 and Sergio in 2012 (both IIRC).

Maybe Sebastian doesn't quite have enough data points in his plot yet.
I think everyone reading this knows the bio-passport testing has dropped off in the last few years.

 

[PremierAndrew]

So why is it that Henao's got weird readings on his biological passport due to his altitude training in Colombia, yet the likes of Quintana, Uran, Chaves and co have relatively normal readings?