Should (or can) Contador come clean now?

[JRanton]

And this is the guy who happily started off a Sky thread in the clinic and goes into various other Sky linked threads and call them out and accuse them of doping but gets his nose up when Contador is brought up. This is never boring for you though.

Hypocrite and selective criticism when it suits you.

Exactly. Embarrassing behaviour.

 

[taiwan]

To focus your energies and devote your time to more profitable things than hating Contador.

Oh, come on. Contador in his career has gone from Saiz to Bruyneel to Vino to Riis, and won 3 Tours. He's in up to his ears. To think otherwise would be delusional.

He won't admit but I'm sure LA or the Hog would be happy to shop him if they're going down anyway.

 

[The Hitch]

Exactly. Embarrassing behaviour.

Im pretty sure the guy is a contador hater pretending to be a fan to give Contador an even worse rep.

 

[Mrs John Murphy]

Im pretty sure the guy is a contador hater pretending to be a fan to give Contador an even worse rep.

Contador fanboys and girls are cycling's version of Justin Bieber fans. Don't worry, once they hit puberty they'll grow out of it.

 

[ferryman]

Contador fanboys and girls are cycling's version of Justin Bieber fans. Don't worry, once they hit puberty they'll grow out of it.

A bit cruel for us older guys who don't know who Justin whoever is. What team does he ride for? I jest. Contador is not the point here.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

He should but he won't. I am very interested in Samu right now...anyone have anything?

 

[the asian]

You must be kidding? Maybe they didn't get along well because Armstrong wanted AC to be his super domestique?

I think Contador had his own program and Armstrong didn't like it.
One can come to a reasonable conclusion from the E-mails between Ferrari's son and Lance that Contador was not on Ferrari's program.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

I think Contador had his own program and Armstrong didn't like it.
One can come to a reasonable conclusion from the E-mails between Ferrari's son and Lance that Contador was not on Ferrari's program.

Or the UCI's.

 

[rata de sentina]

Well given the history it's credible to assume that AC did dope although the extent of it is pretty unclear. Anyway, AC is an entirely different beast to LA. Given their respective natural abilities it seems probable that AC wouldn't need to be on anywhere near the same program as LA to thrash him.

Mind you it would be pretty funny if LAs massive sook on the podium in 2009 was if he thought AC was pretty clean and even doped to the gills he couldn't beat him.

 

[the asian]

Are there any links between Marti and Fuentes?

 

[sartoris]

And this is the guy who happily started off a Sky thread in the clinic and goes into various other Sky linked threads and call them out and accuse them of doping but gets his nose up when Contador is brought up. This is never boring for you though.

Hypocrite and selective criticism when it suits you.

See? You've wasted some of your precious time tracking my forum doings. And of course I don't believe anything about Sky Postal. Can anyone explain the simultaneous blooming of so many riders? Their sudden appearance as GT riders in the last couple of seasons? Oh yeah, swimming coaches and Tenerife.

Contador might have doped. He's paid for it, although you haters would have liked to ban him for life. His progression has been steady .... blahblahblh. It's all been said before. Not going through it again.

 

[sartoris]

Contador fanboys and girls are cycling's version of Justin Bieber fans. Don't worry, once they hit puberty they'll grow out of it.

Who is Justin Beiber? Really.

 

[The Hitch]

He should but he won't. I am very interested in Samu right now...anyone have anything?

Huh? You mean the guy who just said that there is no evidence against lance and that he was a champion ?

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Huh? You mean the guy who just said that there is no evidence against lance and that he was a champion ?

Yeah, not saying he is clean or defending him..i just want to hear more about him....Maybe i should start a thread...

 

[hrotha]

Virtually every Spanish rider who has talked about this has been a disgrace. No one will confess unless forced to, and Spanish riders seem to have a higher tolerance to the absurd than most others in the peloton.

 

[The Hitch]

Virtually every Spanish rider who has talked about this has been a disgrace. No one will confess unless forced to, and Spanish riders seem to have a higher tolerance to the absurd than most others in the peloton.

Well valverde did promote poetry

I might get a kick in the nuts for hoping this but maybe sastre will say nothing- which Ian good as he always says nothing, but in private

 

[Mrs John Murphy]

Virtually every Spanish rider who has talked about this has been a disgrace. No one will confess unless forced to, and Spanish riders seem to have a higher tolerance to the absurd than most others in the peloton.

Why? Even someone like Wiggins was able to see which way the wind was blowing with this. Is it that they are tone deaf or that they just don't want any attention drawn to their own careers and doping?

 

[burning]

Oh, come on. Contador in his career has gone from Saiz to Bruyneel to Vino to Riis, and won 3 Tours. He's in up to his ears. To think otherwise would be delusional.

He won't admit but I'm sure LA or the Hog would be happy to shop him if they're going down anyway.

I dont think Hog will bring him down (There are his accomplishments as well) but Lance? That's a no brainer imo

 

[Arnout]

Why? Even someone like Wiggins was able to see which way the wind was blowing with this. Is it that they are tone deaf or that they just don't want any attention drawn to their own careers and doping?

Partly I think because this story seems to be much bigger in the English press.

 

[The Chicken]

Can someone please set up a "Will Lance confess?" Yes/No poll please? I would do it myself but I don't know how to as I am too stupid. Thanks.

 

[the asian]

Well valverde did promote poetry

I might get a kick in the nuts for hoping this but maybe sastre will say nothing- which Ian good as he always says nothing, but in private
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It would be great if Sastre says something. Lance said some mean things of his 2008 victory, if I was him, I would have joined in the fun and have my revenge.

For me Sastre is the most believable Tour winner after Lemond.

Maybe he was a reluctant doper a.l.a Zabriskie and he's so distressed of the past that he even refuses to say anything regarding cycling.

 

[airstream]

Imo, authorities (spanish or international) should give Contador a choice: either he narrates everything he knows and then he is allowed to quit peacefully, saving a couple of GTs, or he keeps being silent and authorities start boweling him according to the law as they did with Armstrong and Bruyneel. Though the last scenario can end with jail too.

 

[sartoris]

Imo, authorities (spanish or international) should give Contador a choice: either he narrates everything he knows and then he is allowed to quit peacefully, saving a couple of GTs, or he keeps being silent and authorities start boweling him according to the law as they did with Armstrong and Bruyneel. Though the last scenario can end with jail too.

You're so funny. Don't know what to do to get rid of Contador so that Whiny Schleck might have a chance

 

[Taxus4a]

Well, I have read these days in this forum:

If Contador have his "form" he will beat Froome.
If Contador is like in Verbier or Etna he will win the Tour.
...

I think that those days have finished for him. So for me it is a little or naive or ridiculous that kind of statement.

That is like if I say: If Froome doped he will put some minutes from the second.

We have to consider this Tour as the era in wich we are, the situation of Contador after been banned and the SKy policy.

If there is a biopasport that has been progressively introduced and other kind of controls, if most of riders, including Contador, have reduced their performance, it is amazing for me people believe more the best people in the past, than the best people now.

I have always heard inside spanish world cycling, that yes, Contador dopes, but if there werent doping, he would be even better, becouse he is very talented. The same for Valverde.

I have always believe that, I even defended Contador when the judgement of his positive.

But now I have my doubts.. after Lance affair and Pepe Marti ban and the pressure with him after his own ban (and with all the pelotoon), he is one of the best riders of the world, while others leave cycling or reduce his results clearly, he has in these days won the Vuelta, a semiclasicc, and been in the podium with the best current riders in Oman or Tirreno,.. but, that, in fact, it is not that I have always heard: he would be better. He is not better, he is worse in result than before.

Of course I think he had nothing to do with Ulle, Lance, and those people in that strong doping era, but this era doesnt look the better for him as well.

If he dont win the Tour some people will say: he didnt found his better shape...and other did... well, dont joke.. he could have an excuse, but the most probably thing it is than in equal conditions there are better people for three weeks today, and maybe not only Froome.

I hope he will be strong in the Tour, he is a good contender, a passionate cyclist, a competitive rider that only mind to win. It would be very good for the race, but... IMO, consider Verbier as his normal shape or his normal clean performance, without taking it into question, it is a little bit annoyed and out of reality.

If SKY or Froome are cheaters, we will see in the future, but today the isnt any evidence, and his performance are into more credible values.


So, maybe we could not have the hole conclusion about who is better, Contador or Froome, in this Tour, but it is ridiculous to say that Contador is better becouse Froome cant performance like him in 2009 or other years.

Contador claims always he was clean in Tour 2010. Maybe it is true, it is hard to believe with a positive, but he wanst as strong than other times, and that is no so different as Froome last year IMO

 

[DirtyWorks]

Virtually every Spanish rider who has talked about this has been a disgrace. No one will confess unless forced to, and Spanish riders seem to have a higher tolerance to the absurd than most others in the peloton.

Not just the athletes, the Spanish press! I read a number of stories coming out of Spain during the Fuentes trial and they clearly have an editorial bias that Spanish sports stars cannot possibly be doping and the Spanish have a bad reputation because of some unfortunate circumstances.

This is the functional equivalent, but different message, than the "French cycling agenda" used by Armstrong and now seems to have taken on a life of its own.

Contador is under no pressure to admit doping. Indurain certainly isn't. Until popular opinion shifts in Spain, that's about how it will work.