python said:
@straydog
i understand where you’re coming from and i actually realise wada limitations in detecting short-lived hormones. consider me well informed. for example, (and this is a publicly available information) wada labs are currently authorized to detect hgh with no less than 3 (!) different methods with 3 different detection windows. when targeted with proper intelligence and diligence, one of the methods should at least flag the cheater without waking him up.
so my point was that the wada proposed shifting of the burden exclusively on riders should be shared by the folks in the science community and those who decide on random visits. improved tests are certainly possible with investment. the hgh test was an example. if some slip through, so be it. it's called an acceptable level of false negatives. Whilst i’m strongly anti-doping, i believe that ‘zero tolerance’ is a load of political bs. it creates some unrealistic expectation and draconian if not idiotic measures to abuse some in order to cover up others negligence or mismanagement.
My apologies, I didn't consider you informed as you had posted the question "why not make the detection window longer?"....just as in a previous thread you had appeared to show some confusion as to the definition of metabolic rate (which refers to energy expenditure usually in regard to calorific consumption)....and also appeared confused as to what the term "micro" dosing meant....after you had said it was impossible to
micro dose clenbuterol as it's prescribed dosage was measured in
micrograms. Apologies if I misunderstood.
As for the HGH tests, well HGH isn't cycled at any time during a GT. You will never catch any rider at 3am or any other time during a tour with any HGH test, because they simply won't be using it then. And actually if you ever do want to catch a rider using HGH, then the best bet is to actually test him in the first hour after he has fallen asleep when his HGH production will peak. "Some" aren't slipping through the net when it comes to HGH at present. ALL are.
I disagree that the onus is being placed on the riders. And if it was, so what? At present they have the whereabouts system, with all it's inbuilt flaws, the bio passport, with all of it's inbuilt warnings to any well informed PED user. And what else? So called
random testing?
PED users have a cornucopia of choices from the pharmaceutical goody tray, including drugs still in development for human use, that testers won't even have considered will be "abused". If you are serious about cleaner cycling, you have to to endorse loading the dice somewhat back in their favour.