Huh? Whether I or anyone else agrees with these reasons, or any other ones, is irrelevant. That's just a matter of opinion.B.Rasmussen said:So now my reasons are suspect because you don't agree with with them? I think our conversation ends here.
What matters is whether the reasons in question hold up under scrutiny.
Apparently, these particular reasons cannot be defended against simple refutations. That is, like I said, they don't hold up to scrutiny.
I don't know about you, but I favor arguments based on reasons that hold up under scrutiny over those that are based on reasons that don't hold up.
If someone in a discussion forms his or her opinion in line with arguments based on reasons that don't hold up to scrutiny, you're right, the conversation must end, for reasonable discourse with someone like that is not possible.