Simulated Tri-bars

[oaklegs]

So you've not seen someone crash using this position, how do you know it is unsafe? Maybe you tried and found it unstable? Skill makes everything change, what is safe unsafe for one is not for all. Just like everyone who takes their hands off the bars the first time, I'm willing to bet first time that is unstable. maybe we should ban two arm victory salutes.

Actually you will find that two armed or even one armed victory salutes are banned in most clubs as they are in mine. That is for very obvious reasons and that is the danger that goes with them.

 

[boomcie]

Somebody has managed to put the "simulated tri-bar position" on the agenda. Is it off-season?

 

[oaklegs]

No he is saying the truth, why else would there be over 2000 thread views and just 6 votes? You have made a poll where people can only agree with you when voting. Then when people state they don't agree with you, you tell them go away and not post on this thread. How is there meant to be any sort of discussion on the issue when you come across as so self righteous and refuse to take note of anyones point of view except for those who agree with you?

Let us get back to the beginning, the question was not intended to raise the hackles on anyone, I am actually of the old school when cyclists used to wave as they passed by everyone got on well together. It was simply asking for an opinion as follows: Poll Options
Should simulated tri-bar position be banned
1.ban the simulated tri-bar position
2.allow short tri-bars in road events
Now if anyone was offended by such a simple question then I sincerely apologize so now will you all get back to work.
Actually as I have never initiated a poll before, next time I shall make a point of including the 3rd option of None of those.
There was absolutely no need for anyone to get all annoyed and make nasty remarks. God help the motorist that upsets some of you guys, I do hope it is not me.

 

[karlboss]

Actually you will find that two armed or even one armed victory salutes are banned in most clubs as they are in mine. That is for very obvious reasons and that is the danger that goes with them.

but not for pros

 

[Kwibus]

A few years ago the practice of using small tri-bars on road bikes was allowed in major road events.
Then the practice was apparently banned for safety reasons. However now we see top bike riders such as Tom Boonen riding with their forearms on the top of the handlebars in a simulated tri-bar position. I have also seen it happening in the front of the peleton at times.

Having tried this position myself I have found it to be extremely uncomfortable and what is more it is extremely dangerous as it takes a while to get to a brake lever and if one were to hit a bump then the bike would be completely out of control.

Therefore I would like to see this practice outlawed by race managers before a serious accident occurs resulting in a mass pile up.
Bring back the small tri-bars as they were much safer.

What's this? a joke?
Absolutely keep the small tri-bars away. Simulated is fine with me. Their own choice.
It pretty much only happens when someone is solo anyways.

 

[Kwibus]

Cycling needs less triathlon influence, not more. And by that I mean dump TT bikes altogether.

+1

Absolutely agree. I'm no fan of these as well, specially since the rules about them are ridiculous unfair for smaller and larger riders.

 

[k_gibbo]

I agree if you are riding on your own, no worries and you probably don't wear a helmet either. However, if you are at the front of a bunch and you bring them down by riding in that position resulting in smashed equipment and bodies I think you are an idiot.

There is NO need to ban this position. If someone in front of me is doing something I feel is unsafe or putting me in danger then it is MY responsibility to back off and protect myself from harm. There are already to many rules, no need for more.

I didn't vote as I don't agree with either option.

 

[Caruut]

There are many accidents at feeding stations and our Phil usually makes us aware of that. However sorry about the ommission of the 'NO' option in the poll, some very 'angry birds' out there. I think the real problem is when young beginners see these pros doing such things they will try and copy them with disastrous results.

Won't somebody please think of the children!

 

[therhodeo]

I think there are bigger concerns. Ever notice that they pros take off their reflectors and the plastic discs that come on cranksets? Knee pads wouldn't hurt either.

 

[amp300]

Alright, so I have tabulated the current official poll results:

This poll sucks/stupid poll/ridiculous poll/other synonyms for stupid- 8
None of the above- 5
Ban the simulated tri-bar position- 3
Allow short tri-bar's in road events- 3
Learn how to ride- 1
I don't know what I am talking about- 1

Unofficial poll entrant/selection
CN forum viewers who are reading this and eating popcorn watching the OP and others "discuss" the poll options and safety equipment selections- 2,958

 

[ElChingon]

Alright, so I have tabulated the current official poll results:

This poll sucks/stupid poll/ridiculous poll/other synonyms for stupid- 8
None of the above- 5
Ban the simulated tri-bar position- 3
Allow short tri-bar's in road events- 3
Learn how to ride- 1
I don't know what I am talking about- 1

Unofficial poll entrant/selection
CN forum viewers who are reading this and eating popcorn watching the OP and others "discuss" the poll options and safety equipment selections- 2,958

Nice stats! A job well done, I knew someone other than me was reading more than their post.

 

[oaklegs]

Nice stats! A job well done, I knew someone other than me was reading more than their post.

Time to grow up lads and stop wasting our time with silly comments.
3000 visits much show that there was some genuine interest I think.

 

[Caruut]

Time to grow up lads and stop wasting our time with silly comments.
3000 visits much show that there was some genuine interest I think.

If I made a thread saying "Did Hitler ever ride professionally?", it would get hits, but I'd still be a moron.

 

[amp300]

Nice stats! A job well done, I knew someone other than me was reading more than their post.

Thank you! It was fun. Also yes, I read every post before I comment, which is why my post total is so low, but I like to be somewhat informed before I comment.

 

[therhodeo]

Time to grow up lads and stop wasting our time with silly comments.
3000 visits much show that there was some genuine interest I think.

You're a huge asset to the boards. We need more people like you starting threads.

 

[mewmewmew13]

Ban musettes...dangerous

 

[Afrank]

Time to grow up lads and stop wasting our time with silly comments.
3000 visits much show that there was some genuine interest I think.

3000 visits isn't that high for a thread in the road racing forum. Just look at a couple of the other threads Amstel gold thread (17,762), giro 2012 (26,974), Schleck Appreciation (47,214), and depreciation (108,664), BMC in disarray (77,243), Kloden grand tour thread (58,664), Top 10 active cyclists (8,472)

Amount of views on a thread doesn't mean much, it is far more telling that this thread has 3,348 views but only 6 people voted.

 

[Fetisoff]

if i made a thread saying "did hitler ever ride professionally?", it would get hits, but i'd still be a moron.

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post of the week here!!!

 

[Shady87]

Time to grow up lads and stop wasting our time with silly comments.
3000 visits much show that there was some genuine interest I think.

'The importance of crank lenghth to the cyclist' has over 61,000 views, 1200 replies, doesn't make it a good thread.

And if amp300 is still counting, add another 'Learn how to ride'.

 

[amp300]

'The importance of crank lenghth to the cyclist' has over 61,000 views, 1200 replies, doesn't make it a good thread.

And if amp300 is still counting, add another 'Learn how to ride'.

will do! I will be gone camping for the rest of this weekend, but will check this when I get back to update the poll if there is still votes. I won't bump if it is dead though. I imagine the mods are putting in some thought on this thread...

 

[CobbleStoner]

Having tried this position myself I have found it to be extremely uncomfortable and what is more it is extremely dangerous as it takes a while to get to a brake lever and if one were to hit a bump then the bike would be completely out of control.

Therefore I would like to see this practice outlawed by race managers before a serious accident occurs resulting in a mass pile up.
Bring back the small tri-bars as they were much safer.

this thread is hillarious! I was avoiding it because it had 'Tri' in the title, but what a comedy goldmine.
I love how the author let's us know he is serious because he went out and tried this position, lol, and it wasn't comfortable and it scared him, so the natural reaction is to ban pro riders from riding how they want to, and maltiv (who?) crashed once trying it so it must be bad, watch out for those small bumps! lol
keep it up guys

 

[oaklegs]

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post of the week here!!!

Hitlers TDF team 1940

 

[oaklegs]

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post of the week here!!!

Hitler leading his 1940 TDF team. Just for you Caruut and Fetisoff. And not a tri-bar in sight.

 

[Panda Claws]

Luckily for us, pro's bike handling skills are far superior to ours. Even those of Frank Schleck.

 

[Fetisoff]

Hitler leading his 1940 TDF team. Just for you Caruut and Fetisoff. And not a tri-bar in sight.

Finally, your first good post in this whole thread.