Simulated Tri-bars

[therhodeo]

50 posts, 4 votes, does this imply that there are in fact 46 votes for don't ban the position and maintain the ban on the bars?

It implies that its a ridiculous poll.

 

[usedtobefast]

this thread is pointless . ban all imaginary friends too

 

[Unkown]

If a professional can't control his bike because he is resting his arms on the bars, well.... that just won't happen. If you ride road bikes you know that when you go into that position your not as stable but you never see anyone doing it unless they are by themselves or at the front of a little group. I ride like that often when i am against the wind and have not had troubles controlling my bike, I am sure a pro cyclist wouldn't either.

 

[Afrank]

I ride in this position all the time when I am alone, riding with others, sometimes even racing (usually in crits when I am off the front or leading the chase), and over all kinds of road conditions and I have never had any problems. If you are balanced and stable on your bike than you shouldn't have any problem. This entire thread and poll is pointless, suggesting that we start making rules about what positions riders can ride in is ridiculous. If you want anybody to take your suggestions seriously than you need to prove that this kind of riding is actually dangerous for the pros.

 

[Eric8-A]

I too ride like this against the wind. But only do it if the road isn't packed with cars. Some of the streets here in LA are pretty beat up, but yet I manage to stay in the "imaginary aero bar" position when I hit bumps on the road.

 

[Martin318is]

Add me tot he count of those that can't choose either of the poll options. Need a third of 'neither'

 

[oaklegs]

It implies that its a ridiculous poll.

sorry about the non existent 3rd option, but not everyone cares to vote anyway it seems to me.
Did you vote?

 

[oaklegs]

this thread is pointless . ban all imaginary friends too

That probably means that you will always ride by yourself, that is a shame. No one to sit behind.

 

[oaklegs]

If a professional can't control his bike because he is resting his arms on the bars, well.... that just won't happen. If you ride road bikes you know that when you go into that position your not as stable but you never see anyone doing it unless they are by themselves or at the front of a little group. I ride like that often when i am against the wind and have not had troubles controlling my bike, I am sure a pro cyclist wouldn't either.

I agree if you are riding on your own, no worries and you probably don't wear a helmet either. However, if you are at the front of a bunch and you bring them down by riding in that position resulting in smashed equipment and bodies I think you are an idiot.

 

[oaklegs]

I ride in this position all the time when I am alone, riding with others, sometimes even racing (usually in crits when I am off the front or leading the chase), and over all kinds of road conditions and I have never had any problems. If you are balanced and stable on your bike than you shouldn't have any problem. This entire thread and poll is pointless, suggesting that we start making rules about what positions riders can ride in is ridiculous. If you want anybody to take your suggestions seriously than you need to prove that this kind of riding is actually dangerous for the pros.

Google the name Graeme Obree (the flying Scotsman)and you will see how this tri-bar position began. And then it was controlled for safety reasons. I suppose one sometimes has to learn the hard way by losing skin and breaking bones and as long as it is just yours and not the guys behind you that is acceptable by me.

 

[Afrank]

Google the name Graeme Obree (the flying Scotsman)and you will see how this tri-bar position began. And then it was controlled for safety reasons. I suppose one sometimes has to learn the hard way by losing skin and breaking bones and as long as it is just yours and not the guys behind you that is acceptable by me.

I already know who Graeme Obree is, did the hour record, rode in superman position, whats your point?

As I said before if you are centered and contolled on your bike it is very easy to maintain this postition without any trouble or difficulty. I never have trouble in this position and I expect the pro's to be much better bike handlers than I, so I doubt they have any trouble either.

 

[Unkown]

I agree if you are riding on your own, no worries and you probably don't wear a helmet either. However, if you are at the front of a bunch and you bring them down by riding in that position resulting in smashed equipment and bodies I think you are an idiot.

Ok first off why would you assume I don't wear a helmet, everybody who rides their road bike consistently wears a helmet, me included. Second, don't be calling me an idiot because I gave my opinion, and finally like AFrank said the position is stable if you know how to ride a bike. Have you even tried to ride a bike like that before or are you just assuming. When have you ever seen a pro rider bring down a lot of guys because he riding like that, never.

 

[42x16ss]

sorry about the non existent 3rd option, but not everyone cares to vote anyway it seems to me.
Did you vote?

Most of us haven't voted because there isn't an option we agree with.

 

[Unkown]

Most of us haven't voted because there isn't an option we agree with.

This is what everyone is thinking.

 

[ElChingon]

ban riding on footpath to escape from cobbles is my option

New Poll!

And I voted just to rock the vote.

 

[Martin318is]

sorry about the non existent 3rd option, but not everyone cares to vote anyway it seems to me.
Did you vote?

2,188 views of this thread.

5 votes recorded...

 

[oaklegs]

I already know who Graeme Obree is, did the hour record, rode in superman position, whats your point?

As I said before if you are centered and contolled on your bike it is very easy to maintain this postition without any trouble or difficulty. I never have trouble in this position and I expect the pro's to be much better bike handlers than I, so I doubt they have any trouble either.

I think my point has been already made, and once again I say if you want to risk your own safety then do it but do not risk anyone elses by riding in that position at the front of the group. If you tried it with me behind you I would simply back off after first telling you why in plain terms.
OMG where did common sense go to when the younger generation started cycling.

 

[oaklegs]

This is what everyone is thinking.

So you in your infinite wisdom are speaking for EVERYONE now are you, what gives you the right to do that?

 

[oaklegs]

Ok first off why would you assume I don't wear a helmet, everybody who rides their road bike consistently wears a helmet, me included. Second, don't be calling me an idiot because I gave my opinion, and finally like AFrank said the position is stable if you know how to ride a bike. Have you even tried to ride a bike like that before or are you just assuming. When have you ever seen a pro rider bring down a lot of guys because he riding like that, never.

There is always going to be a first time. If it has not happened already.

 

[badboyberty]

I ride in the IAB position often, I also descend with my body in front of my saddle. My worst accidents on bitumen have occurred with both hands firmly on the bars and my bum on the saddle, maybe we the UCI need to attach diodes to every riders skull so they can monitor inattention and overconfidence.

I wear a helmet.

I also would like to vote "none of the above" on this poll and advise the OP to stop what is basically trolling. Sometimes it seems age doesn't automatically bring maturity.

 

[Marcus135]

So you in your infinite wisdom are speaking for EVERYONE now are you, what gives you the right to do that?

No he is saying the truth, why else would there be over 2000 thread views and just 6 votes? You have made a poll where people can only agree with you when voting. Then when people state they don't agree with you, you tell them go away and not post on this thread. How is there meant to be any sort of discussion on the issue when you come across as so self righteous and refuse to take note of anyones point of view except for those who agree with you?

 

[karlboss]

There is always going to be a first time. If it has not happened already.

So you've not seen someone crash using this position, how do you know it is unsafe? Maybe you tried and found it unstable? Skill makes everything change, what is safe unsafe for one is not for all. Just like everyone who takes their hands off the bars the first time, I'm willing to bet first time that is unstable. maybe we should ban two arm victory salutes.

 

[quiqui]

Two arm victory salutes are way more dangerous than riding in tri-bar position.

 

[Martin318is]

Two arm victory salutes are way more dangerous than riding in tri-bar position.

Especially as they are generally at or near outright max heartrate after a huge effort. When TTing in the pseudo position, you are generally closer to threshold than you are to max. generally! if not, that will be messy

 

[Offtheback]

So you've not seen someone crash using this position, how do you know it is unsafe? Maybe you tried and found it unstable? Skill makes everything change, what is safe unsafe for one is not for all. Just like everyone who takes their hands off the bars the first time, I'm willing to bet first time that is unstable. maybe we should ban two arm victory salutes.

They used to be banned in Britain for all road races, from juniors to the Independents. No idea if that ban was lifted. You would be instantly disqualified for dangerous riding.